SteveLyric2 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 As has been said many times over - if you want to make a small fortune out of speedway, you have to start with a large one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 44 minutes ago, TTT said: It's easy to keep the club on track Buster can easily keep Panthers on track by sharing the AFA with King's Lynn, Buster could easily merge KL and Peterborough as one team. Tomalin/Johnson and co. can easily secure land buy purchasing Leicester's track considering it's up for sale, Tomalin/Johnson could easily merge Leicester and Peterborough as one team or they could drop Leicester down to NL level whilst running Peterborough at Premiership level, Or you could be ruthless and liquidate Leicester altogether. Both of those are a short distance away and easy enough to get to (Looking at 1 hour to 1 hour 30 minutes max depending on traffic) an agreement to use Mildenhall's track can also be struck. So many options and possible solutions, It's not like we've got nowhere to turn to (Wolves) I can't see Buster sharing the AFA with Peterborough. I don't think it's viable. Both teams will suffer finically. One team combined from the 2, it's got a better chance money wise. But why would Buster if he wants out. Keeping the Stars running is surely more important to him than the Prem. .He has done his bit over the years keeping it going . Over to Tomalin and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 hours ago, iainb said: Panthers just need to sort out a swap deal for Ryan Douglas and they could go out winning the league! Can’t understand why Douglas stays at wolves, he’s not the best round there but I guess he enjoys riding in a team with his good mates maybe. But I agree he rides the showground better than pretty much anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: As has been said many times over - if you want to make a small fortune out of speedway, you have to start with a large one!! Not too many run it to "live on" I would suggest.. Hence it is an expensive hobby that many seem prepared to fund, often through wider business interests... Maybe that is part of the reason they run the sport the way they do..? ie. Personally enjoying a season of "affordable" Speedway being the ultimate aim, rather than making winning titles the prime objective.. Maybe as more tracks close, those promoters who lose them may team up with those still in existence to make the remaining clubs, and the sport itself, stronger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TTT said: Still would be, Just a different home track. No point in anyone splashing out a ridiculous cash sum to build a whole new stadium from scratch because the sport will collapse in a few years anyway so the logical thing to do is a stadium share with one of the local tracks that's easy to get to. After the 2025 season we'll be very fortunate if we've got 10 or the current 16 PREM/CHAMP teams left (Birmingham, Edinburgh, King's Lynn, Leicester, Peterborough, Poole, Wolves all have a question mark over them) Never works. Nobody is going to fund and build a new circuit. Been hearing that since I said the same about the Fengate motorsport complex. Remember that of 20 years ago? Neil does Allegedly, AEPG possibly liaised with the Panthers ownership/promotion as well as PCC and/or associated contacts about possible site relocation. Would be interesting to know if those discussions happened and the outcome? The problem is that we have a track which is in perfect working order so if the sport is about to collapse then a 3 year lease, until the revised local plan is produced, would appear to be ideal and sensible. Main problem is that I think the EEAS/AEPG don't want to spend any money on maintenance and associated staff deployment/costs? Edited August 8, 2023 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Never works. Nobody is going to fund and build a new circuit. Been hearing that since I said the same about the Fengate motorsport complex. Remember that of 20 years ago? Allegedly, AEPG possibly liaised with the Panthers ownership/promotion as well as PCC and/or associated contacts about possible site relocation. Would be interesting to know if those discussions happened and the outcome? The problem is that we have a track which is in perfect working order so if the sport is about to collapse the a 3 year lease, until the revised local plan is produced, would appear to be ideal and sensible. Main problem is that I think the EEAS/AEPG don't want to spend any money on maintenance and associated staff deployment/costs? I’m not sure anyone wants another three years like the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mick Bratley said: I’m not sure anyone wants another three years like the last two years. Hopefully they wouldn't sign a knackered 46 year old in future. Pedersen messed up the whole season and with a proper number 1, as Bewley's guest appearance showed, it takes the pressure off the rest and we're an entirely different proposition and would have won most, if not all, of our home meetings. As with having a ringer at reserve throughout 2021, it's a fine line between success and failure. Was a cracking meeting last night though with a big crowd which only makes our current plight, inaction and messaging more disappointing. Edited August 8, 2023 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Hopefully they wouldn't sign a knackered 46 year old in future. Pedersen messed up the whole season and with a proper number 1, as Bewley's guest appearance showed, it takes the pressure off the rest and we're an entirely different proposition and would have won most, if not all, of our home meetings. As with having a ringer at reserve throughout 2021, it's a fine line between success and failure. Was a cracking meeting last night though with a big crowd which only makes our current plight and the messaging more disappointing. From the "highlights" shown in the breaks on Eurosport, that did look like a well contested match for which a draw would have been a fair result (were such a thing possible). 9+1 from 5 for Doyley has to count as a victory for the Peterborough lads. But Emil was class. He is the league's number 1 star this year, no question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Surely there is a brown field site similar in size to Workington, Buxton etc in the local (ish) area that could be bought for Speedway? Without it costing the earth.. Even renting the land of someone? Very basic amenities initially with plans for growth ongoing... A decent shaped track... A decent vantage point... Enough "facilities".. And there you go... In Johnsons statement, from about 3/4 weeks ago, he said they had sites in mind, and in the same statement said they have one waiting... So who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyag Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: Who knows what they will do, but there are things that can be done to protect the track, pits and grandstand until the planning application has been approved. Interestingly, the question which did not get asked to Chapman last night was " have you discussed or agreed with AEPG to not support the Peterborough Speedway to run at the EoES for season 2024 in return for compensation / the purchase of the Speedway Club” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 hours ago, TTT said: It's easy to keep the club on track Buster can easily keep Panthers on track by sharing the AFA with King's Lynn, Buster could easily merge KL and Peterborough as one team. Tomalin/Johnson and co. can easily secure land buy purchasing Leicester's track considering it's up for sale, Tomalin/Johnson could easily merge Leicester and Peterborough as one team or they could drop Leicester down to NL level whilst running Peterborough at Premiership level, Or you could be ruthless and liquidate Leicester altogether. Both of those are a short distance away and easy enough to get to (Looking at 1 hour to 1 hour 30 minutes max depending on traffic) an agreement to use Mildenhall's track can also be struck. So many options and possible solutions, It's not like we've got nowhere to turn to (Wolves) Peterborough at King's Lynn or Leicester would be shut down mid season. The losses would be astronomical. To do that, Peterborough would have to be at NDL level. A completely delusional idea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Peterborough at King's Lynn or Leicester would be shut down mid season. The losses would be astronomical. To do that, Peterborough would have to be at NDL level. A completely delusional idea Agree. Maybe Mildenhall might work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Agree. Maybe Mildenhall might work? Mildenhall barely works for Mildenhall so it would be an incredibly long shot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, False dawn said: From the "highlights" shown in the breaks on Eurosport, that did look like a well contested match for which a draw would have been a fair result (were such a thing possible). 9+1 from 5 for Doyley has to count as a victory for the Peterborough lads. But Emil was class. He is the league's number 1 star this year, no question. Eh? Why? Peterborough didn’t do enough to earn a draw so a draw wouldn’t have been a fair result in any way shape or form. Certainly not for Ipswich! Strange thing to say. Edited August 8, 2023 by Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Mildenhall barely works for Mildenhall so it would be an incredibly long shot. Maybe the Panthers sharing any track isn't financially viable, for both the clubs involved unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Peterborough at King's Lynn or Leicester would be shut down mid season. The losses would be astronomical. To do that, Peterborough would have to be at NDL level. A completely delusional idea We ride to that standard most weeks so it would be difficult to tell the difference lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Aries said: Eh? Why? Peterborough didn’t do enough to earn a draw so a draw wouldn’t have been a fair result in any way shape or form. Certainly not for Ipswich! Strange thing to say. Just thought the two sides seemed pretty equal. Sorry if I offended. I am a bit strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Maybe the Panthers sharing any track isn't financially viable, for both the clubs involved unfortunately. I think that could sadly be the case. For a year perhaps, maybe two it may work. If there was light at the end of the tunnel in the form of a track back in Peterborough. Otherwise it’s would likely just be delaying the inevitable end of the side altogether sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: I’m not sure anyone wants another three years like the last two years. True that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) Im sure many would gladly relish the next 3 years with a different owner, Someone who puts out a competitive team on a track that as last night proved is still one of the best in the Uk Edited August 8, 2023 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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