Peterborough Panthers 2023

[LagutaRacingFan]

12 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

No money at Peterborough. Sponsors not put up.

Money has gone to Lynn to fund the Laguta signing.

[Panthers70]

12 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Not for everyone - I haven’t bought a Star for years, and haven’t seen any other info about him.

 

7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

No money at Peterborough. Sponsors not put up.

No money because Chapman (the promoter and owner, the person who has all the financial responsibility) refuses to spend any more on Panthers than he has done already, even though he doesn't have to pay any Pedersen type money out

[TTT]

I can forgive Tomalin over time if he makes amends, I can understand why he's not paid the money but I still feel let down because we're having to suffer as a fan base over the off track fallout between him and Buster.

Buster is in a league of his own though and the sooner he's gone the better, Wherever he goes, Drama follows and it's a regular occurrence when it comes to him.

[Flappy]

So where has the money saved on Pedersen gone or was he being paid in magic beans.  This stinks. 

This is nothing to do with sponsors this is all on the door of the owner who I'm actually starting to feel sorry for being so far out of his depth.  

Both panthers and king's Lynn in Tomalin and Brady have progressive potential new owners and he has to find a way of getting them in charge. 

The 2 remaining El Bustico's should be sponsored by The Big Issue 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Flappy

[Daniel Smith]

18 minutes ago, Flappy said:

So where has the money saved on Pedersen gone or was he being paid in magic beans.  This stinks. 

This is nothing to do with sponsors this is all on the door of the owner who I'm actually starting to feel sorry for being so far out of his depth.  

Both panthers and king's Lynn in Tomalin and Brady have progressive potential new owners and he has to find a way of getting them in charge. 

The 2 remaining El Bustico's should be sponsored by The Big Issue 

Shouldn't it be the El Brassico Derby now

[pleasureboy60]

Chapman has ruined our track, our team and our club

His legacy will without doubt be quickly forgotten but the club will live on forever.

 

[Crump99]

9 minutes ago, pleasureboy60 said:

Chapman has ruined our track, our team and our club

His legacy will without doubt be quickly forgotten but the club will live on forever.

 

Seeing Zmarzlik fly into the corner last night running Madsen up to the airfence and deep stuff reminded me of Andersen and Crump in their prime regularly doing the same. Go mid track or try the Sullivan run these days and you'll generally go backwards 10 yards unless it's Frick, Doyle, Sayfutdinov, Bewley etc who've missed the start against slower lesser riders.

[Najjer]

On 6/24/2023 at 1:25 PM, Bald Bloke said:

Word is that he is expensive. Don’t mention sponsors on here lol..

He shouldn’t be given some of his scores recently, especially a big fat duck egg yesterday in Poland…

[Chris]

On 6/22/2023 at 6:49 PM, Bald Bloke said:

You asked me to explain. So i took the time to.

But you only quoted a small bit of what it said... To make me look foolish... You haven't said if i had explained it as you had asked. But just quoted the bit you want to.  If you can't understand my answers, whether you agree or not, i'm wasting my time .. Don't say nothing against MT. We can't pee him off. He is the only chance we have !!  A lot on here seem to have the attitude of ... We will blame Buster cause he's going anyway, and we might need TM.. 

Did my answers make sense to you?? Even if you disagree. 

In fact don't bother 

 

You've completely embarrassed yourself on here over the last few months chasing round posts about Chapman. Pathetic and you've now got egg all over your face.

"What I've been told by my sources is correct" haha 

[Bald Bloke]

3 hours ago, Chris said:

You've completely embarrassed yourself on here over the last few months chasing round posts about Chapman. Pathetic and you've now got egg all over your face.

"What I've been told by my sources is correct" haha 

Are you quoting me there??

As I've said many times, that's my opinion. We all have them. Since then i  have been told by someone close that i'm almost bang on. You know this. And i trust them. .It's easy to come on here and post that now that you have been told.. If it's true. There has been plenty that blame Buster for everything this season. I put most of the blame on MT....One of us will be wrong !!. 

This seems to have started after the Holder thing. .If Buster allowed Holder, and then went back on his word, then Buster brought it on himself. If MT went and tried to sign Holder after Buster told him it can't happen, then thats a different matter. It might not be due to Holder at all. 

Would you like to tell everyone, or point me to a statement from either of them, that explains what went wrong then ? 

I'm big enough to take it on the chin if i'm wrong, no problem... And i'll wipe that egg off of my face and carry on..

Have a good day.

Edited June 26, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[Crump99]

56 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Are you quoting me there??

As I've said many times, that's my opinion. We all have them. Since then i  have been told by someone close that i'm almost bang on. You know this. And i trust them. .It's easy to come on here and post that now that you have been told.. If it's true. There has been plenty that blame Buster for everything this season. I put most of the blame on MT....One of us will be wrong !!. 

This seems to have started after the Holder thing. .If Buster allowed Holder, and then went back on his word, then Buster brought it on himself. If MT went and tried to sign Holder after Buster told him it can't happen, then thats a different matter. It might not be due to Holder at all. 

Would you like to tell everyone, or point me to a statement from either of them, that explains what went wrong then ? 

I'm big enough to take it on the chin if i'm wrong, no problem... And i'll wipe that egg off of my face and carry on..

Have a good day.

"If" is doing all of the heavy lifting here though. Chapman has the track record on such matters whereas Tomlin probably thought that he was entering a professional sport with sensible businessmen who play by conventional rules? Like many before him, and much sooner than usually happens, reality of the shark infested custard clown show soon hit home, so until the real truth is known and these sources come out of the woodwork then Chris probably speaks for the majority, which isn't surprising as it's a Peterborough thread.

[chrismorton]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

Are you quoting me there??

As I've said many times, that's my opinion. We all have them. Since then i  have been told by someone close that i'm almost bang on. You know this. And i trust them. .It's easy to come on here and post that now that you have been told.. If it's true. There has been plenty that blame Buster for everything this season. I put most of the blame on MT....One of us will be wrong !!. 

This seems to have started after the Holder thing. .If Buster allowed Holder, and then went back on his word, then Buster brought it on himself. If MT went and tried to sign Holder after Buster told him it can't happen, then thats a different matter. It might not be due to Holder at all. 

Would you like to tell everyone, or point me to a statement from either of them, that explains what went wrong then ? 

I'm big enough to take it on the chin if i'm wrong, no problem... And i'll wipe that egg off of my face and carry on..

Have a good day.

I thought you would be busy enough on the Lynn thread with your mate Buster sacking off Laguta to be still boring us on here...

Edited June 26, 2023 by chrismorton

[scoobydoo]

40 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

"If" is doing all of the heavy lifting here though. Chapman has the track record on such matters whereas Tomlin probably thought that he was entering a professional sport with sensible businessmen who play by conventional rules? Like many before him, and much sooner than usually happens, reality of the shark infested custard clown show soon hit home, so until the real truth is known and these sources come out of the woodwork then Chris probably speaks for the majority, which isn't surprising as it's a Peterborough thread.

I see every owner or promoter of any speedway club these days as just another fraudster , scammer and cheat,  one of the reasons i stopped going to watch a meeting live years ago, 

[Bald Bloke]

52 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

"If" is doing all of the heavy lifting here though. Chapman has the track record on such matters whereas Tomlin probably thought that he was entering a professional sport with sensible businessmen who play by conventional rules? Like many before him, and much sooner than usually happens, reality of the shark infested custard clown show soon hit home, so until the real truth is known and these sources come out of the woodwork then Chris probably speaks for the majority, which isn't surprising as it's a Peterborough thread.

I use "if" because i don't know for sure. The same as the Buster bashers don't.  It's just my take on things, which i have stated many times. Unlike the Buster bashers, they don't know the full story either, but many write as if they do.  If Chris is speaking like he did to me. I hope he can provide proof that it's 100% correct.  I'm fully aware of Busters history   

Edited June 26, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[TTT]

Another shambles developing at KL.

How hard is it for Buster to tell the truth? Just be open and honest with your paying public.

[Bald Bloke]

5 hours ago, Chris said:

You've completely embarrassed yourself on here over the last few months chasing round posts about Chapman. Pathetic and you've now got egg all over your face.

"What I've been told by my sources is correct" haha 

Then show me the proof.. I take it you have it after your post. And is that a "quote" from me ??

54 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

I thought you would be busy enough on the Lynn thread with your mate Buster sacking off Laguta to be still boring us on here...

I will be, but when someone posts something like Chris has above , then i will reply to that first. Buster is not my mate btw, i just don't think it's fair that people jumped on his back after 1 meeting. No one knew who's fault it was over the Holder thing. It was opinions. But Chris seems to no the facts given his post, so hopefully when the turns up we will all know 

I'm not going to start slagging Buster off yet. Laguta only doing home meetings, or if he doesn't come back at all,  hasn't happed yet.

[Bald Bloke]

9 minutes ago, TTT said:

Another shambles developing at KL.

How hard is it for Buster to tell the truth? Just be open and honest with your paying public.

Buster was thrown in at the deep end for no fault of his own when Alex left. Alex was funding things, and clearly operating on a bigger budget.  I can fully understand why Buster might do this( if he does). But as you say, tell it like it is. I even think some might sympathise with his position at Lynn ( Not Peterborough), if he came out and told us the truth..

Edited June 26, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[chrismorton]

What a shambles the British league is.. honestly you couldn't make it up...and it's actually gone backwards with Phil Morris running it..some of the things we've seen this season have been a joke..I can't take it seriously anymore and losing interest rapidly.

[Haza]

48 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Buster was thrown in at the deep end for no fault of his own when Alex left. Alex was funding things, and clearly operating on a bigger budget.  I can fully understand why Buster might do this( if he does). But as you say, tell it like it is. I even think some might sympathise with his position at Lynn ( Not Peterborough), if he came out and told us the truth..

For me it’s not that Laguta isn’t riding tonight it’s total disrespect  by Chapman to paying public - think he must think fans don’t watch Polish league . Just be open and transparent and K L fans might be sympathetic. It’s the disrespect to fans especially his own clubs fans that annoys me . Though how much of this shambles is of Brady making jump ship and leave Buster to pick the pieces up but that doesn’t stop the club from being totally honest to fans 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Haza

[arnieg]

8 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

What a shambles the British league is.. honestly you couldn't make it up...and it's actually gone backwards with Phil Morris running it..some of the things we've seen this season have been a joke..I can't take it seriously anymore and losing interest rapidly.

So what has Phil Morris done wrong or failed to do?