Peterborough Panthers 2023

[Flappy]

19 minutes ago, TTT said:

I have my fingers crossed but normally these situations don't end well.

And this is where us fans come in and force this down their throats. It's the only hope for Peterborough speedway and it's there in black and white and I'd hazard a guess is exactly what messrs Rathbone and Tomalin are waiting for 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Flappy

[Falcon1983]

4 minutes ago, TTT said:

That's what I said yesterday, Gasser and Flappy know their stuff though so I'm taking their word for it regarding the 5.00 assessment.

I'd rather have Tara on a 7.00 just so Ben Cook can get a bit more experience at reserve.

The only thing you can really compare it to is that Keynan Rew who doesn't ride is the Ekstraliga and he was a 5.00, gotta be a 7.00 for me, will be sort of surprised if its a 5.00 its good for Pboro if it is anyway

These things don't happen overnight so surely Peterborough knew something was happening, so makes it more bizarre that Tomalin and Johnson attacked fans online, should have said nothing, delivered their win from Monday, announced new riders by the end of the week 

[TTT]

4 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

What's your evidence for saying that?

Whenever the threat of closure looms over a Speedway club......It normally results in the club closing, Very rarely does a club win the war and lives on to fight another day.

I have my fingers crossed that everything will work out well though.

[scoobydoo]

Be prepared for even bigger thrashings home and away , the changes mooted on here make the overall team weaker than what they have now

If NKI moves to ride at 1 and with Tarasenko scoring the same as Hans if hes on a 5 or 7 average (unless hes another Mikal Blixt sensation which i doubt) , 

Complete Madness,     but at least it will look as if there doing something to respond to the flak they've been getting .

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by scoobydoo

[TTT]

5 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said:

The only thing you can really compare it to is that Keynan Rew who doesn't ride is the Ekstraliga and he was a 5.00, gotta be a 7.00 for me, will be sort of surprised if its a 5.00 its good for Pboro if it is anyway

These things don't happen overnight so surely Peterborough knew something was happening, so makes it more bizarre that Tomalin and Johnson attacked fans online, should have said nothing, delivered their win from Monday, announced new riders by the end of the week 

I remember when riders like Przedpelski, Piotr Pawlicki etc. were over here on assessed 7.00's but that was a few years back so who knows now.

I thought it was 8.00's for GP riders, 7.00's for Ekstraliga riders not in the GP's and 5.00's for riders like Rew, Nowak etc. who ride in the lower tiers of Polish Speedway.

[Flappy]

Tarasenko has to be better the Hans Andersen surely 

[Flappy]

9 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

Be prepared for even bigger thrashings home and away , the changes mutted on here make the overall team weaker than what they have now

If NKI moves to ride at 1 and with Tarasenko scoring the same as Hans if hes on a 5 or 7 average (unless hes another Mikal Blixt sensation which i doubt) , 

Complete Madness,     but at least it will look as if there doing something to respond to the flak they've been getting .

 

If Tarasenko is a 7 he'll ride at number 1. 

[scoobydoo]

8 minutes ago, Flappy said:

If Tarasenko is a 7 he'll ride at number 1. 

Wow that will put the fear of god up someone like Doyle 

[TTT]

Before the ban on Russian's Tarasenko rode in the 1st league of Polish Speedway for Bydgoszcz and Krosno in his final two years before the ban he finished 5th in (2020) and then 3rd (2021) in the overall league averages before making the jump to Ekstraliga Speedway.

In his three meetings for Grudziadz this season he's scored 6, 7+1 and 7+3 so he shouldn't have any problems over here when it comes to scoring points. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by TTT

[arnieg]

36 minutes ago, Flappy said:

I was guessing average wise tbh I have no idea whether Tarasenko is any good or not as don't recall ever seeing him ride 

Average in ekstraliga above Lidsey, Holder (Chris), Woryna and fractionally behind Dudek so have a guess.

[Bagpuss]

The mooted team will be much better at home with those two rather than hit and miss guests and Hans.

Probably not away but winning at home has to be the first priority.

[Haza]

If Laguta does end up at KL I’d definitely not be happy if I was a Panthers fan as they been told no one is available then Laguta ends up at the club owners other track - really doesn’t sit well if it was the other way round Lynn fans would be into meltdown. 

[Flappy]

27 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Average in ekstraliga above Lidsey, Holder (Chris), Woryna and fractionally behind Dudek so have a guess.

Decent then plus Tungate improves us 

[bigcatdiary]

2 hours ago, TTT said:

Someone else has to be lined-up, Can't leave the team like that and god knows how Tomalin/CJ are going to talk themselves out of this one if we do go 3.5 under the limit considering we've been the team looking for a No.1.

It’s been very clear that Keith Chapman is the boss, the final say is his, CJ and Tomalin effectively work for him

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, Haza said:

If Laguta does end up at KL I’d definitely not be happy if I was a Panthers fan as they been told no one is available then Laguta ends up at the club owners other track - really doesn’t sit well if it was the other way round Lynn fans would be into meltdown. 

And rightly so imho. Buster has owned Lynn for 25+ years. Never won the top league. We had 1 win all season when P/Boro won the league under Buster..  It's well overdue for the Stars loyal fans to have a team to challenge for something, other than that spoon. I don't think it's as simple as stuff Boro, and spend the money on Lynn.

Talk was that NP was on £3.5k a meeting. The Zagar deal was aparently verbally agreed, then for him to ask for more.. Buster asked a sponsor to help, but was turned down. Since then there is talk of MT only paying a fraction of the agreed sponsorship with Buster.. If true has Buster still got the NP money or was that figured in the TM money that maybe hasn't been paid?  Who knows.

Is  Laguta, if he comes on more than NP was, so Buster can't afford him, same as Zager?  Maybe a Lynn sponsor is putting up the money, and not Buster for a Stars signing. Something that's not happening at Peterborough . In fact it seems the opposite at Boro sadly. The sponsor money might be going the other way ?

At the end of the day it looks like a Stars sponsor is willing to put his had in his pocket for the good of the Stars.  If no one at Peterborough is willing to, you can't blame Buster for that.

Edit...  Looking at Tel's new post 2 down . The statement from Buster confirms he is not paying for any rider, including Laguta if he does come. So can't be blamed for being  bias to Lynn , or the other way..

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[Bald Bloke]

26 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

It’s been very clear that Keith Chapman is the boss, the final say is his, CJ and Tomalin effectively work for him

Something that MT should of realised early on 

[tellboy]

Statement on the Lynn website

KEITH Chapman has moved to clarify his position as owner of both King’s Lynn and Peterborough Speedway amidst rumours of rider movement at various Sports Insure Premiership clubs.

Chapman retains his promoter’s licence at King’s Lynn but has confirmed the day-to-day running of the club, and financial affairs, are in the hands of others.

He is also the owner of Peterborough where work continues to fill the position vacated by Nicki Pedersen who left the club after one meeting.

Chapman said: “I’ve been reading plenty of comments over recent days and I think it’s important to lay out clearly what the situation is.

“I no longer have any financial involvement in King’s Lynn Speedway, and whilst I still hold a promoter’s licence there, this will be my last season in that role and I’ve made that clear to everyone.

“All of the financial and team matters at King’s Lynn are taken on by Alex Brady and Dale Allitt, although obviously I still have responsibility for the stadium.

“I do still own the club, it hasn’t been sold yet, but the funding is not coming from me this year.

“At Peterborough everyone knows the problems we have faced, and it was me who did the deal with Nicki Pedersen to race at No.1, which unfortunately went wrong after one race.

“Since then we’ve been looking for a replacement, and trying to book the best guests we can under the circumstances.

“It hasn’t always worked but we had Max Fricke lined up for a meeting that was rained off, and I paid for Dan Bewley to guest on Monday in a meeting against King’s Lynn, so there’s no question of me making decisions to favour one club over the other.

“The team and financial decisions at King’s Lynn are completely separate from me now, and of course I still desperately want Peterborough to survive beyond this season.

“I just want to make it totally clear that the two clubs are not being run by the same person with one being prioritised over the other.”

Edited May 24, 2023 by tellboy

[Bagpuss]

55 minutes ago, Haza said:

If Laguta does end up at KL I’d definitely not be happy if I was a Panthers fan as they been told no one is available then Laguta ends up at the club owners other track - really doesn’t sit well if it was the other way round Lynn fans would be into meltdown. 

I would too but one can assume that Brady/McInnes has stepped forward to finance the deal and that Tomalin couldnt/wouldn't. I would suggest we are talking an awful lot of money. 

[TTT]

DELETED just saw the statement on KL's website.

Edited May 24, 2023 by TTT

[TTT]

25 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Statement on the Lynn website

KEITH Chapman has moved to clarify his position as owner of both King’s Lynn and Peterborough Speedway amidst rumours of rider movement at various Sports Insure Premiership clubs.

Chapman retains his promoter’s licence at King’s Lynn but has confirmed the day-to-day running of the club, and financial affairs, are in the hands of others.

He is also the owner of Peterborough where work continues to fill the position vacated by Nicki Pedersen who left the club after one meeting.

Chapman said: “I’ve been reading plenty of comments over recent days and I think it’s important to lay out clearly what the situation is.

“I no longer have any financial involvement in King’s Lynn Speedway, and whilst I still hold a promoter’s licence there, this will be my last season in that role and I’ve made that clear to everyone.

“All of the financial and team matters at King’s Lynn are taken on by Alex Brady and Dale Allitt, although obviously I still have responsibility for the stadium.

“I do still own the club, it hasn’t been sold yet, but the funding is not coming from me this year.

“At Peterborough everyone knows the problems we have faced, and it was me who did the deal with Nicki Pedersen to race at No.1, which unfortunately went wrong after one race.

“Since then we’ve been looking for a replacement, and trying to book the best guests we can under the circumstances.

“It hasn’t always worked but we had Max Fricke lined up for a meeting that was rained off, and I paid for Dan Bewley to guest on Monday in a meeting against King’s Lynn, so there’s no question of me making decisions to favour one club over the other.

“The team and financial decisions at King’s Lynn are completely separate from me now, and of course I still desperately want Peterborough to survive beyond this season.

“I just want to make it totally clear that the two clubs are not being run by the same person with one being prioritised over the other.”

Interesting, Explains why Laguta is heading to KL now, Knew Buster wouldn't be paying for him as well as covering the wage bill at Panthers because it goes against everything he stands for when running his business.

Also tells me Laguta has been available for a while and that Tomalin just didn't want to put up the cash weeks ago for him but Alex Brady is prepared to spend big on the former World Champion.

Fair play to Buster for communicating with the fans.

Edited May 24, 2023 by TTT