Peterborough Panthers 2023

[Pitch]

I've Decided to leave the Speedway forum site, the Peterborough page is not a good place to visit, for anyone who simply wants to enjoy their speedway. 

[LagutaRacingFan]

11 minutes ago, Pitch said:

I've Decided to leave the Speedway forum site, the Peterborough page is not a good place to visit, for anyone who simply wants to enjoy their speedway. 

I echo these sentiments. I am thinking of doing the same.

I remember the good old days when the forum was about discussing speedway and transfers. Now it's all about individual personalities in the sport and speculation about clubs closing down.

[Fromafar]

3 minutes ago, BassoRacingFan said:

I echo these sentiments. I am thinking of doing the same.

I remember the good old days when the forum was about discussing speedway and transfers. Now it's all about individual personalities in the sport and speculation about clubs closing down.

I’ll book the leaving night out for you.Which phone box do you prefer.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Fromafar

[DazS]

2 minutes ago, BassoRacingFan said:

I echo these sentiments. I am thinking of doing the same.

I remember the good old days when the forum was about discussing speedway and transfers. Now it's all about individual personalities in the sport and speculation about clubs closing down.

its happening in all walks of life.

[Bald Bloke]

24 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

I’ll book the leaving night out for you.Which phone box do you prefer.

I’ll do better than that.I’ll pick him up from school, and drive him there myself..

[Flappy]

I'm afraid our club is being run into the ground and instead of a siege mentality those custodians of our club just see fans with an opinion as trouble 

[Baldyman]

Having read what was said, you wouldn't visit another business that talked down to you that way. Shocking way to talk to customers. 

[chrismorton]

13 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said:

I echo these sentiments. I am thinking of doing the same.

I remember the good old days when the forum was about discussing speedway and transfers. Now it's all about individual personalities in the sport and speculation about clubs closing down.

I think we should get some candles and hold a vigil this evening...

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

47 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

I think we should get some candles and hold a vigil this evening...

Naked flames in the vicinity of a threatened speedway venue.......that's never ended well before 

[chrismorton]

Just took the time to read through that Facebook conversation on speedway Friends... can't believe how many people giving them thumbs up....for me it's really unprofessional and underlines what half the problem is at the club...they've completely alienated themselves from the fans and i felt the need to comment so I did..

[Bald Bloke]

8 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

Just took the time to read through that Facebook conversation on speedway Friends... can't believe how many people giving them thumbs up....for me it's really unprofessional and underlines what half the problem is at the club...they've completely alienated themselves from the fans and i felt the need to comment so I did..

That tells them that majority of fans will put up with it unfortunately. Some just want to see some speedway. I hope there a banner or 2 tonight and Johnson is approached by  same fans asking to explain how talking to paying supporters like he did is ok...  There probably wont be, but it's time the fans did something.

I'm not of social media, but have seen the quotes on here. Shocking ..

[Pinny]

A right bunch of tossers involved over at Peterborough by the looks. What a shambles

[Purplepanthernotred]

Can’t actually believe some of the stuff the promotion have been saying on social media, regardless of the fact that a couple of there points are valid too an extent, I think more than not is out of order taking that approach towards paying customers who clearly only do moan because naturally they wish too see there club doing well

[Crump99]

6 hours ago, Flappy said:

I'm afraid our club is being run into the ground and instead of a siege mentality those custodians of our club just see fans with an opinion as trouble 

That's always been the way though through the internet era. They put in a lot of time and effort in both good and bad times, as well as money but then get slagged off continuously by some who think that their attendance gives them the right to say what they want. Well it does to a point, but without full facts then can it always be justified? As Bratters once said, it's not what you say it's the way that you say it. As someone has already said, they are only human and not prepared for the vitriol that often comes their way. Someone once told me that Frost/Mahoney were shocked and not prepared, so you can see how less skilled people might react.

As for running the club into the ground, it's important that fans don't get dragged down with the regime of the current owner at this crucial time. There have been many many more good years (for club and city profile) than bad and those times have to be forefront in the club's effort to survive and hold AEPG/PCC to account.

Edited May 22, 2023 by Crump99

[chrismorton]

2 hours ago, Crump99 said:

That's always been the way though through the internet era. They put in a lot of time and effort in both good and bad times, as well as money but then get slagged off continuously by some who think that their attendance gives them the right to say what they want. Well it does to a point, but without full facts then can it always be justified? As Bratters once said, it's not what you say it's the way that you say it. As someone has already said, they are only human and not prepared for the vitriol that often comes their way. Someone once told me that Frost/Mahoney were shocked and not prepared, so you can see how less skilled people might react.

As for running the club into the ground, it's important that fans don't get dragged down with the regime of the current owner at this crucial time. There have been many many more good years (for club and city profile) than bad and those times have to be forefront in the club's effort to survive and hold AEPG/PCC to account.

The fact is though that the club is currently being run really really badly, there is no communication with the fans, we are facing closure, we haven't got a full team, we haven't won in nearly a year, we have become the laughing stock of what is already a sub standard premier league and then the fans who care vent they're frustration only for it to turn into a slanging match with our so called management team on Facebook...Its just so unprofessional and is not a good look especially when so many promises and false hopes were fed to us at the start of the season. I think in this case our fans are entitled to demand answers.

[Falcon1983]

3 hours ago, Crump99 said:

That's always been the way though through the internet era. They put in a lot of time and effort in both good and bad times, as well as money but then get slagged off continuously by some who think that their attendance gives them the right to say what they want. Well it does to a point, but without full facts then can it always be justified? As Bratters once said, it's not what you say it's the way that you say it. As someone has already said, they are only human and not prepared for the vitriol that often comes their way. Someone once told me that Frost/Mahoney were shocked and not prepared, so you can see how less skilled people might react.

As for running the club into the ground, it's important that fans don't get dragged down with the regime of the current owner at this crucial time. There have been many many more good years (for club and city profile) than bad and those times have to be forefront in the club's effort to survive and hold AEPG/PCC to account.

heard an interview with Steve Cooper Forest boss (Football) today

Signed loads of players, spent loads of money, survived in the premier league

 

he thanked supporters for sticking by the club during the season, said at times it was tough as supports would question his recruitment, his tactics, his team selection etc. but he also added "and quite rightly so they should be able to question it as they are supporters of the club, its their club and their right to have their opinion" but he added ultimately they have been supportive and that their support will always be with him etc. etc. etc.

 

Put this into Speedway perspective, fans purchase season tickets or go to individual meetings paying their £22, they are supporters of the club first and foremost not supporters of who is in charge, or maybe the riders etc. they are supporters of the club and if things are not going well they can question it to the hills like in any sport without having access to the full facts - at least in some sports (football)  things such as attendances, accounting, players transfer fees, wages to some degree are always made public or you have access to information via certain mediums

Speedway is a closed shop which really brings it on themselves.

Any PBoro fan paying just £22 once this season to attend one meeting should be able to criticise, any fan that has been in the past likewise, fans are the bloodline for any speedway club, at least football would/could survive without fans due to having a huge commercial industry with their TV deals

Johnson should have kept quiet and just concentrated on getting the riders firing and hopefully replacing Nicki

Tomalin should keep his mouth shut, his veneers are obviously too short, if someone on his staff spoke online to one of his car customers the way he spoke to a few fans, they'd be sacked

Time for them to deliver something for the fans in the present in terms of results on track,  fans I dont expect them to deliver on anything for 2024 as people understand it takes time

[cowboy cookie returns?]

3 hours ago, Crump99 said:

17 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

The fact is though that the club is currently being run really really badly, there is no communication with the fans, we are facing closure, we haven't got a full team, we haven't won in nearly a year, we have become the laughing stock of what is already a sub standard premier league and then the fans who care vent they're frustration only for it to turn into a slanging match with our so called management team on Facebook...Its just so unprofessional and is not a good look especially when so many promises and false hopes were fed to us at the start of the season. I think in this case our fans are entitled to demand answers.

The sort of response that came from your management over the weekend isn’t new.

If you don’t like it don’t come or that sort of response has been given plenty of times by promoters, unfortunately plenty of people have heeded that advice over the years.

the promoters want to sell the sport as a proper team sport that people get passionate about. This brings an emotional buy in by those supporters who can take it seriously. However when a club is struggling the promotion don’t like criticism from those very supporters who they need to have an emotional buy in to make it a team sport. They are then expected to put up & shut up while enjoying the racing. 

 

Edited May 22, 2023 by cowboy cookie returns?

[LagutaRacingFan]

So who wanted us to replace Ben Cook with Craig Cook?

@Flappy

@Gasser90

Edited May 22, 2023 by BassoRacingFan

[LisaColette]

1 minute ago, BassoRacingFan said:

So who wanted us to replace Ben Cook with Craig Cook?

Flappy and TTT? 

[LagutaRacingFan]

On 4/17/2023 at 10:13 PM, Flappy said:

1 and Worrall for starters. It may be harsh but I'd actually bring in Craig Cook over Ben Cook right now. We hardly have a future to play with so we need the better riders for the now 

 

On 4/18/2023 at 10:45 AM, Flappy said:

Agreed easy change to be made there by bringing in Craig Cook at reserve 

 

On 4/18/2023 at 12:01 PM, Flappy said:

They are but the whole team is a mess, for me I'd bring in Craig Cook for Ben Cook at reserve for no other reason than he's better now and we're not exactly in a position to be planning for the future.  

Quite frankly Cook and Basso would have to kiss and make up.  

We would then be left with 15.17 for 2 heat leaders 

1 Bjerre

2 Andersen 

3 NKI 

4 Basso 

5 Zagar 

6 Craig Cook 

7 Jenkins