Peterborough Panthers 2023

[Flappy]

6 minutes ago, Haza said:

Well I think MT is your main hope certainly isn’t Buster 

Only hope 

[pleasureboy60]

It's a shame BC hasn't got the same passion and enthusiasm as most of the supporters.

He's clearly given up hence such a disjointed, makeshift team of average riders just playing out the season with minimal cost to him.

He certainly hasnt done himself any favours and will be forgotten long before the club is !

[TTT]

1 hour ago, JoeW436 said:

I’m sure those that where hanging off every statement the 2nd hand car dealer was coming out with over the winter must be feeling a bit silly now…radio silence 

Only thing I blame MT for is the purple rebranding purely because it doesn't make any sense to me if we're closing at the end of the year.

Buster is to blame for everything else.

Edited April 18, 2023 by TTT

[Crump99]

12 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Who would you replace Jenkins with?

Agreed: 7. Jordan Jenkins 1', 2, 2', 0 = 5+2 - can't complain at that, he's far from the problem.

[Crump99]

On 4/12/2023 at 9:44 PM, Crump99 said:

Rumour I heard last meeting (only a rumour but logical if the Adopted Local Plan was confirmed by PCC) was that the EoES developers had helped the club buy some land to agree with Policy LP36: East of England Showground "The loss of any existing leisure and sports facilities will not be supported unless replacement facilities are provided in accordance with policy LP30".

LP30 - Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities
The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only be permitted if it is demonstrated that:
k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.

 

k, The EoES is still fit for purpose; l, is a bit tenuous and potentially open to interpretation and argument; m, there is no provision on or off site so without it the Showground can't throw out Peterborough Speedway and agree with the Local Plan?

Shame that they are seemingly not putting the same effort in to trying save the Showground circuit:

Wolverhampton has a long and proud history in the sport, having first staged racing in 1928, and has always been regarded as a highly professional, well run and viable business.

Rob Godfrey, Chairman of British Speedway Promoters’ Ltd, said: “We were all deeply shocked by the news, and I must stress this was as much of a surprise to us as it was to everyone when we heard on Monday morning.

“This stands out as a bizarre and ludicrous decision to end the tenancy of a well-supported, successful, viable club which has a great history in speedway dating back nearly 100 years.

“We don’t want to see any club close, and we don’t intend to let this one go without a fight, especially when there appears to be no logical reason for the decision.

“We will be forming an Action Group over the coming days and we are fully supportive of Chris (Van Straaten) and his colleagues as they look to save the club.

STATEMENT: WOLVERHAMPTON SPEEDWAY (17/4/23 BSPA site)

Edited April 18, 2023 by Crump99

[TTT]

JJ's been very good and I'd say he's been the best performing RS in the league so far tbh. Two x 5+2's at Home and he would've got 4+1 at Leicester if his bike didn't pack up on lap 3 in Heat 2. 

As far as the reserves go, it's Ben Cook who's been letting the side down at Home.

4.06 GSA and he's scored 7+3 from 8 rides at Home and that isn't anywhere near good enough when he's faced the likes of Hume, J. Thompson and Mulford.

[Purplepanthernotred]

11 hours ago, TTT said:

No.1 position is a disaster.

Worrall can't ride the Showground and he gets passed all over the track even when he does make the gate.

Not convinced with B. Cook either, His big score at Leicester could be down to Leicester being crap tbh going by the way they performed against us as well as Ipswich tonight, Jenkins is actually taking the lead role at Home when it comes to the reserves.

Ben Cook will be fine when he settles, you’ve got to think that’s what, the second time he’s ridden the track?? And he kept pass with bewley in heat 11 

[TTT]

Even Hans Andersen isn't to blame for the Home form, He's actually scored 8 on both occasions.

 

This is the problem so far.

No.1 - 4+1 from 6 rides (A situation that needs sorting with a permanent signing instead of Buster lining the pockets of his KL darlings who'll flop every week)

R. Worrall 6.15 GSA - 9 points from 9 rides (4.50 per night and that's nowhere near the 6.15 we've got him on)

B. Cook 4.06 GSA - 7+3 form 8 rides (Exc the BP's because they don't get added to the teams tally at the end of the meeting, we're getting a 3.50 return out of a 4.06 GSA)

[TTT]

11 minutes ago, Purplepanthernotred said:

Ben Cook will be fine when he settles, you’ve got to think that’s what, the second time he’s ridden the track?? And he kept pass with bewley in heat 11 

We don't have the time though due to early season losses at Home which is the problem.

[Flappy]

5 minutes ago, TTT said:

We don't have the time though due to early season losses at Home which is the problem.

Agreed easy change to be made there by bringing in Craig Cook at reserve 

[DizzAssStar]

58 minutes ago, TTT said:

Buster is to blame for everything else.

Presumably that also includes rising energy costs, global warming and the war in Ukraine?

Interesting that you people also still balme Worrall for everything despite the FACT that superstar Basso is contributing even fewer points than RW  (clearly just antother Buster issue).

Before you accuse me of being a Buster fanboy let me add I don't go to any speedway these days (probably 7 - 8 years now) as it the sport is on its knees in UK and will soon only exist as one division (Championship) with fewer teams than are now in existence!! 

Still quite laughable how you blame Buster for everything (and I fully accept he ain't perfeect by a long-shot) when your so-called saviour (MT) promises everything but delivers NOTHING!

[Crump99]

24 minutes ago, DizzAssStar said:

Presumably that also includes rising energy costs, global warming and the war in Ukraine?

Interesting that you people also still balme Worrall for everything despite the FACT that superstar Basso is contributing even fewer points than RW  (clearly just antother Buster issue).

Before you accuse me of being a Buster fanboy let me add I don't go to any speedway these days (probably 7 - 8 years now) as it the sport is on its knees in UK and will soon only exist as one division (Championship) with fewer teams than are now in existence!! 

Still quite laughable how you blame Buster for everything (and I fully accept he ain't perfeect by a long-shot) when your so-called saviour (MT) promises everything but delivers NOTHING!

Fixed the track lighting (or at least helped I guess?) with 23 bulbs of the 24 on 4 poles now working.

 

[LisaColette]

54 minutes ago, Purplepanthernotred said:

Ben Cook will be fine when he settles, you’ve got to think that’s what, the second time he’s ridden the track?? And he kept pass with bewley in heat 11 

Exactly. I know he's an Aussie but the only big track in the Champ is Berwick. The rest are relatively small esp compared to Peterborough. Plus reserves aren't supposed to get HL scores!! 

[LisaColette]

46 minutes ago, TTT said:

We don't have the time though due to early season losses at Home which is the problem.

The top 5 is to blame for that though. Ben got a typical reserve score so def is not the problem. 

[JoeW436]

Ben cook is certainly not the issue, the reserves I’m happy enough with, #1 and the engine room is the glaring issue

[Bagpuss]

99% of the problems are down to the number one berth, so far from twelve programmed rides only eight points have been scored when Pedersen would have been good for 30+. Other parts of the team are being exposed as a result and can't take the extra load. Get the number one sorted and it'll be a completely different side.

[BluPanther]

1 minute ago, Bagpuss said:

99% of the problems are down to the number one berth, so far from twelve programmed rides only eight points have been scored when Pedersen would have been good for 30+. Other parts of the team are being exposed as a result and can't take the extra load. Get the number one sorted and it'll be a completely different side.

100% correct...

[Flappy]

32 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

99% of the problems are down to the number one berth, so far from twelve programmed rides only eight points have been scored when Pedersen would have been good for 30+. Other parts of the team are being exposed as a result and can't take the extra load. Get the number one sorted and it'll be a completely different side.

They are but the whole team is a mess, for me I'd bring in Craig Cook for Ben Cook at reserve for no other reason than he's better now and we're not exactly in a position to be planning for the future.  

Quite frankly Cook and Basso would have to kiss and make up.  

We would then be left with 15.17 for 2 heat leaders 

1 Bjerre

2 Andersen 

3 NKI 

4 Basso 

5 Zagar 

6 Craig Cook 

7 Jenkins 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Flappy

[Bagpuss]

11 minutes ago, Flappy said:

They are but the whole team is a mess, for me I'd bring in Craig Cook for Ben Cook at reserve for no other reason than he's better now and we're not exactly in a position to be planning for the future.  

Quite frankly Cook and Basso would have to kiss and make up.  

We would then be left with 15.17 for 2 heat leaders 

1 

2 Andersen 

3 NKI 

4 Basso 

5 

6 Craig Cook 

7 Jenkins 

You'd be swapping a rider on the way up with one on the way down and whose last two Pem jobs have ended up with him being dropped.

Can see the logic with Worrall as he's not great at the EoES but I'm not sure it needs major surgery if a decent number one can be found.

[Flappy]

2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

You'd be swapping a rider on the way up with one on the way down and whose last two Pem jobs have ended up with him being dropped.

Can see the logic with Worrall as he's not great at the EoES but I'm not sure it needs major surgery if a decent number one can be found.

It's more than just a number 1 missing.  As for a rider on the way up it's not value to us now in our situation with him learning tracks etc 

Plus we already have riders on the way down in Andersen and NKI 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Flappy