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7 minutes ago, TTT said:

Don't know why Flappy is taking some stick on this thread.

He's communicated with fellow fans more than the club itself this winter, Lets face it the club haven't even been communicating with riders let alone fans this winter either (Holder), The only true communication from club to fans this winter has been constant reminders about season tickets being available every week.

I really don't care tbh I share what I hear or told to a point. Naturally I can't share everything and some things change but I must be some darts player if it's all made up 

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No doubt in my mind that Buster would've been prepared to go with the following 1-7 if a HL wasn't available as well as nobody stepping up to spanner for Tungate.

NKI

C. Cook

Worrall

Andersen

Basso

B. Cook

JJ

 

This Chris Holder situation could've backfired drastically and the sad thing is that Buster wouldn't have cared because he would've got his own way by not having to work with Holder.

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15 minutes ago, TTT said:

Ben Cook has been left without a mentor now and he doesn't have any fellow Aussie's in the team.

Hopefully the Danish quartet will help Ben settle in by making him feel welcome and stuff.

The Danes will take good care of him, will learn a lot from them 

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22 minutes ago, TTT said:

No doubt in my mind that Buster would've been prepared to go with the following 1-7 if a HL wasn't available as well as nobody stepping up to spanner for Tungate.

NKI

C. Cook

Worrall

Andersen

Basso

B. Cook

JJ

 

This Chris Holder situation could've backfired drastically and the sad thing is that Buster wouldn't have cared because he would've got his own way by not having to work with Holder.

Cook and Hans are both experienced riders with a point to prove. They could be trump cards.

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5 hours ago, Flappy said:

There's no denying that Nicki Pedersen is Buster's Knight in shining armour in all this. 

I'm excited to see him ride but we can't let it slip that we need the club under new ownership asap 

Nicki could  well be TM's shinning light and not Busters. If TM went above his station and did agree a deal with Holder behind Busters back (after all TM has a connection with Holder i believe), then Buster has done nothing wrong at all in stopping the deal, and TM is the one who should be getting all the flack for fooking up. 

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2 hours ago, Panther1997 said:

If the sale goes through to MT, could we see Holder in those kevlars he's had made or has the bridge been well and truly be burnt down?

Tomalin isn't the issue in this situation, he expected to be in charge and wanted Holder, it is Buster who is the issue so if he goes then yes Holder could end up back there

The only potential issue is that Chris went and posted the teams Kevlars on Instagram when the club would want to showcase this for their sponsors via their own platforms

 

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7 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said:

Tomalin isn't the issue in this situation, he expected to be in charge and wanted Holder, it is Buster who is the issue so if he goes then yes Holder could end up back there

The only potential issue is that Chris went and posted the teams Kevlars on Instagram when the club would want to showcase this for their sponsors via their own platforms

 

Why show them to a rider who hasn't signed a contract for you then?

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33 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said:

Tomalin isn't the issue in this situation, he expected to be in charge and wanted Holder, it is Buster who is the issue so if he goes then yes Holder could end up back there

The only potential issue is that Chris went and posted the teams Kevlars on Instagram when the club would want to showcase this for their sponsors via their own platforms

 

If Tomalin( The sponsor) went behind Busters( The owner) back and agreed a deal with Holder, for Buster to then find out and cancel the deal, who's in the wrong then.... Tomalin is. I don't see why Buster is getting it all when people don't know what happened. Holder posting the new kevlars shows you what you were getting, if the 2017 fiasco wasn't enough.. When /if MT buys the club he can have who he likes. 

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12 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

If Tomalin( The sponsor) went behind Busters( The owner) back and agreed a deal with Holder, for Buster to then find out and cancel the deal, who's in the wrong then.... Tomalin is. I don't see why Buster is getting it all when people don't know what happened. Holder posting the new kevlars shows you what you were getting, if the 2017 fiasco wasn't enough.. When /if MT buys the club he can have who he likes. 

I think it's this.

1. Holder agreed to ride under Tomalin's ownership where all parties including Buster expected a takeover to be completed.

2. Expected takeover hasn't happened and won't happen before the season starts.

3. Buster knowing he's going to be here at the start of the season for certain has blocked the deal for Holder and hasn't even bothered to inform him because he straight up doesn't like the bloke after the 2017 shambles.

4. In the end either Michael, Carl or Dale have had to be Busters fall guy to make a phone call to Holder to inform him that he's out, Then Holder's got even by releasing the new race suits on Instagram.

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26 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

If Tomalin( The sponsor) went behind Busters( The owner) back and agreed a deal with Holder, for Buster to then find out and cancel the deal, who's in the wrong then.... Tomalin is. I don't see why Buster is getting it all when people don't know what happened. Holder posting the new kevlars shows you what you were getting, if the 2017 fiasco wasn't enough.. When /if MT buys the club he can have who he likes. 

If the sale on both sides seemed like a formality then i dont see the issue with Tomalin going ahead and agreeing deals, Buster wouldn't of cared or even known maybe at the time, but for whatever reason the ownership has been delayed, Tomalin has shown his hand and buster doesn't agree, so to me it suggests the sale isn't imminent or buster could have let it happen knowing he was soon out 

 

27 minutes ago, TTT said:

So true, The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing this winter.

Kevlars are sent to many riders before a contract has beeb signed so they can agree on personal sponsorship placements etc. Its normal to some

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