TTT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, Flappy said: If they've salvaged the team by adding Pedersen and Tungate then we'll have a good season. If however they're well under the limit to track a team then I'm afraid they need to get both barrels 100% agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, TTT said: The calm before the storm. Speedway Star Day tomorrow where we should get plenty of news. Would it be any surprise at all if it was another week with nothing announced, wouldn’t me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Tomalin's money therefore Tomalin should have the final say on matters. Busters basically telling Tomalin what he can spend his own money on and that's wrong tbh, If the team is way below Tomalin's standards then I won't be putting any of the blame on Michael and neither should anyone else because it's easy to point fingers at the newbie. Chris Holder would've been at Peterborough 100% if Tomalin owned the club. Pressure is all on Buster to deliver a big hitter considering he's the sole reason for the Holder situation, Buster has only taken his own personal feelings into consideration rather than his colleagues feelings as well as the fans feelings. Replacing Chris Holder with a rider like Craig Cook isn't going to wash, Needs to be an adequate replacement who can score big as a HL. Big end of the week coming up and I'll stick my neck out and say that everything will be alright in the end. Final 3 prediction (Pedersen, Worrall & Andersen) want Tungate but I can see Buster calling the final shot again by remaining loyal to one of his 2022 KL Stars riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Redpanther said: Would it be any surprise at all if it was another week with nothing announced, wouldn’t me Carl Johnson did say multiple announcements this week but yes I wouldn't be shock if it didn't happen considering how this winter has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 “Hopefully towards the end of next week if we can” was what Johnson was quoted as saying in last weeks speedway star so he gave no guarantees. Unless he’s been on local radio since and updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TTT said: Tomalin's money therefore Tomalin should have the final say on matters. Busters basically telling Tomalin what he can spend his own money on and that's wrong tbh, If the team is way below Tomalin's standards then I won't be putting any of the blame on Michael and neither should anyone else because it's easy to point fingers at the newbie. Chris Holder would've been at Peterborough 100% if Tomalin owned the club. Pressure is all on Buster to deliver a big hitter considering he's the sole reason for the Holder situation, Buster has only taken his own personal feelings into consideration rather than his colleagues feelings as well as the fans feelings. Replacing Chris Holder with a rider like Craig Cook isn't going to wash, Needs to be an adequate replacement who can score big as a HL. Big end of the week coming up and I'll stick my neck out and say that everything will be alright in the end. Final 3 prediction (Pedersen, Worrall & Andersen) want Tungate but I can see Buster calling the final shot again by remaining loyal to one of his 2022 KL Stars riders. Replace Holder with Cook: how things have turned around from replacing Cook with Summers and the logo colour excuse Cant see MT taking to kindly to being told what to do with his money especially as a big business owner himself Edited February 15, 2023 by scoobydoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted February 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Pedersen, Andersen and Worrall still wouldn't be acceptable it leaves Basso as a heat leader and a rider than none of the management except one wants Edited February 15, 2023 by Flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Sorry Peterborough fans but you're all being bl00dy deluded. You're basically asking Buster to hand over the club for free just because Tomlin's willing to pay all the costs. That's not how business works. This isn't on Buster. If Tomlin wants full control of Peterborough Panthers for 2023 he has to BUY the club. Not a Buster fan at all but he's 100% right to make a stand here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 14 hours ago, wealdstone said: Have it your own way!!! Buster Paragon of virtue and Tomlins sponsorship no more than incidental. Just giving it back. MT should buy it if he wants to Buster to have no say at all. At the moment he is a sponsor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: There needs to be some context to this whole situation. While Tomlin wants to build his 'winning team' what is he wanting in return? Gate receipts? Other sponsor finances etc. I just can't see Tomlin wanting to outlay the signing on fees & wages for 3 of the 4 rider's from Iversen, Pedersen, Tungate, Holder without returns. Buster, who owns the club, is responsible for stadium rents & match day bills, i.e. electric, track, fuel, tyres etc. How does Buster recover his finances? 100%, the EoES bills & Tomlin's team cannot be covered by gate receipts alone. I just think we're at a situation of stalemate between the 2 parties, in the fact that Buster (rightly so) is not willing to take losses. It's at the point that Tomlin will have to buy the club for what Buster wants or put together a weakened team so 1 or both don't end up with significant losses. If Tomlin doesn't buy now, Buster knows he's getting no return from Peterborough Panthers come the end of the 2023 season. An 'absolute' total loss from his initial takeover. So for the 2023 season Buster will want some return himself. Again, (rightly so) Buster has every right to be sure that the team & stadium costs are covered without significant loss. Better put than i could... . Some people seem to forget the title winning side he gave them, and want him to pee off because someone has a bit of money. Buy the club and you can you as you please would be my answer to anyone trying to take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Sorry Peterborough fans but you're all being bl00dy deluded. You're basically asking Buster to hand over the club for free just because Tomlin's willing to pay all the costs. That's not how business works. This isn't on Buster. If Tomlin wants full control of Peterborough Panthers for 2023 he has to BUY the club. Not a Buster fan at all but he's 100% right to make a stand here. I don't agree with everything you say, but 2 great posts on the subject imho. Buy it, or sponsor it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Cannot see Pedersen or Cook in the team...who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Agree with the Lynn lot here, I’m sure the sponsorship money is very welcome, but it doesn’t then give you the right to sign riders/build the team. That’s down to the club owner. Guy Nicholls’ sponsorship is very welcome at Ipswich also, but he doesn’t build the team Chris Louis does. Edited February 15, 2023 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, topaz325 said: Cannot see Pedersen or Cook in the team...who knows. Cook is in at P'borough.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Flappy said: Pedersen, Andersen and Worrall still wouldn't be acceptable it leaves Basso as a heat leader and a rider than none of the management except one wants Basso ave is as good as other no 3s in the league ...maybe lacks experience tho ...He's got talent...Cook should do ok at no 6 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Sorry Peterborough fans but you're all being bl00dy deluded. You're basically asking Buster to hand over the club for free just because Tomlin's willing to pay all the costs. That's not how business works. This isn't on Buster. If Tomlin wants full control of Peterborough Panthers for 2023 he has to BUY the club. Not a Buster fan at all but he's 100% right to make a stand here. Nigel Wagstaff didn’t buy the club when he ran the speedway at Kings Lynn for a couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: Cook is in at P'borough.... I think you are talking about Ben and topaz about Craig. At the end if the day there's lots of speculation and supposition on here about what's going on but I suspect only the two men involved and perhaps one or two others know all the facts. Easy to sling accusations and theories around without being informed. One thing I would say is that we are talking about two successful and presumably hard nosed businessmen, it's little surprise there's a deadlock if indeed that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: Cook is in at P'borough.... Yes Zach Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Flappy said: Pedersen, Andersen and Worrall still wouldn't be acceptable it leaves Basso as a heat leader and a rider than none of the management except one wants Tungate's average is lower than Basso's as well so he's got to ride at 3 either way. We really do need Tungate though. Andersen & Worrall combo doesn't give us any strength at second string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Nigel Wagstaff didn’t buy the club when he ran the speedway at Kings Lynn for a couple of years. Yes he did. Wagstaff bought the club & changed us to "The Silver Machine" & eventually drove the club bust. Buster had to buy the Speedway rights back. Being a stadium owner doesn't automatically mean you own the Speedway club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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