Daniel Smith Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 The grandstand would not pass current stadia regulations but it doesn’t mean 60% couldn't be reused / recycled in to a reconfigured grandstand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 15 hours ago, Flappy said: Buster Something doesn’t add up .if tomalin is funding the club and promoter with Carl why’s that ,let’s be fair everybody bar panthers fans think buster props up club and loses money ..if you was losing money you’d be want rid asap you’d not be piddling the potential buyer off … if the teams 5h1te this upcoming this season they can swivel for the £89 a meeting and programme I spend . Times are tight and putting out has beens and never will be’s ain’t gonna wash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 7 hours ago, TTT said: I'm going with the following three. Nicki P (Literally no excuse not to meet his demands if Holder does get shown the exit door as expected) R. Worrall (Hopefully someone has managed to step up for Tungate though) Andersen Holder and Hume to complete the Witches 1-7 imo. Not far away there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Ideally they could take the seats from the current grandstand, not much I know but it’s a start, the roof is asbestos is it not? So that would surely rule that out. interesting too see what’s going too happen too certain buildings on site because the thatched barn is listed, and I’m led too believe the cattle sheds are too, so they would have too taken down and put back up somewhere in theory. As for this merry go round that’s speculation on the team, get it announced, it’s took the p*ss now to the fans. Peterborough has a great fan base and the last thing anyone with any sense would do is not to tarnish that! Pedersen needs too be nailed on at 3.5k a night fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I bet they want the club to take the grandstand with them what with from memory an asbestos roof - the cost of dismantling and reassembling would be astronomical cheaper to scrap it an buy new - seats would be worth keeping though Edited February 10, 2023 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 As an outsider looking in the questions around the ownership of Peterborough seem Pretty simple to answer. The club has a year left at the showground. Although it appears that another site has been found the costs with obtaining the land & building the stadium seem to be an issue at the moment. Buster is trying to sell a club that currently could have no future in 9 months time. Any offer made is likely to be well below what Buster wants for it. Tomlin wants to buy the club but because of the question mark around what happens after October isn't willing to meet Busters valuation. Buster won't sell, expects to lose money at Peterborough but can use that to offset tax elsewhere. This probably gives buster better value right now than selling for what Tomlin wants to pay for it. Currently Peterborough speedway isn't worth a great deal as the future beyond this season is far from certain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: As an outsider looking in the questions around the ownership of Peterborough seem Pretty simple to answer. The club has a year left at the showground. Although it appears that another site has been found the costs with obtaining the land & building the stadium seem to be an issue at the moment. Buster is trying to sell a club that currently could have no future in 9 months time. Any offer made is likely to be well below what Buster wants for it. Tomlin wants to buy the club but because of the question mark around what happens after October isn't willing to meet Busters valuation. Buster won't sell, expects to lose money at Peterborough but can use that to offset tax elsewhere. This probably gives buster better value right now than selling for what Tomlin wants to pay for it. Currently Peterborough speedway isn't worth a great deal as the future beyond this season is far from certain. Have to agree with all you say especially the last sentence- the value of Pboro Speedway isn’t worth a great deal - I’d say with an uncertain future over the showground and funding for a new stadium and getting planning permission Pboro Speedway isn’t worth a £1 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: As an outsider looking in the questions around the ownership of Peterborough seem Pretty simple to answer. The club has a year left at the showground. Although it appears that another site has been found the costs with obtaining the land & building the stadium seem to be an issue at the moment. Buster is trying to sell a club that currently could have no future in 9 months time. Any offer made is likely to be well below what Buster wants for it. Tomlin wants to buy the club but because of the question mark around what happens after October isn't willing to meet Busters valuation. Buster won't sell, expects to lose money at Peterborough but can use that to offset tax elsewhere. This probably gives buster better value right now than selling for what Tomlin wants to pay for it. Currently Peterborough speedway isn't worth a great deal as the future beyond this season is far from certain. But the land,grandstand,fixtures and fittings etc etc are not the only financial outlays.What about the utilities to basically be installed in the middle of a field.Electic,sewers,water,telecommunications,and a huge drainage system would also be needed.You don't get all these things put in for free of charge, that's why there aren't any new tracks appearing in the UK being built from scatch.With the amount of people coming through the turnstiles speedway just isn't a viable proposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tommy Sweetman said: But the land,grandstand,fixtures and fittings etc etc are not the only financial outlays.What about the utilities to basically be installed in the middle of a field.Electic,sewers,water,telecommunications,and a huge drainage system would also be needed.You don't get all these things put in for free of charge, that's why there aren't any new tracks appearing in the UK being built from scatch.With the amount of people coming through the turnstiles speedway just isn't a viable proposition. All that with at best 2000 people coming through the turnstiles each meeting sadly all you say doesn’t add up to be financially viable- unless it’s a multi purpose stadium-stock cars / pop concerts/ football /rugby - with a clubhouse big enough for weddings and parties- can see that’s the only way it could be viable- just speedway it doesn’t add up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaxley panther Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 NP of 10 years ago on 3.5k a meeting yes , NP of now on 3.5k a meeting would be a massive gamble not alot of incentive for him knowing he's having his pocket lined barely before he's turned a wheel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, yaxley panther said: NP of 10 years ago on 3.5k a meeting yes , NP of now on 3.5k a meeting would be a massive gamble not alot of incentive for him knowing he's having his pocket lined barely before he's turned a wheel True...but always gives 100%.......injures might affect him tho ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, yaxley panther said: NP of 10 years ago on 3.5k a meeting yes , NP of now on 3.5k a meeting would be a massive gamble not alot of incentive for him knowing he's having his pocket lined barely before he's turned a wheel Desperate times call for desperate measures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, yaxley panther said: NP of 10 years ago on 3.5k a meeting yes , NP of now on 3.5k a meeting would be a massive gamble not alot of incentive for him knowing he's having his pocket lined barely before he's turned a wheel That's the risk we have to take in order to get a No.1 / HL in. Buster not starting a clean slate with Holder basically leaves us in a big money gamble situation that we have to take due to nobody else being available (Not that we know of anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther1997 Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 15 hours ago, Flappy said: Johnson also confirms panthers have 21 acres at Fengate put aside for when we leave the showground but awaiting on funding through a clause of them leaving the showground Where's this been confirmed please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: As an outsider looking in the questions around the ownership of Peterborough seem Pretty simple to answer. The club has a year left at the showground. Although it appears that another site has been found the costs with obtaining the land & building the stadium seem to be an issue at the moment. Buster is trying to sell a club that currently could have no future in 9 months time. Any offer made is likely to be well below what Buster wants for it. Tomlin wants to buy the club but because of the question mark around what happens after October isn't willing to meet Busters valuation. Buster won't sell, expects to lose money at Peterborough but can use that to offset tax elsewhere. This probably gives buster better value right now than selling for what Tomlin wants to pay for it. Currently Peterborough speedway isn't worth a great deal as the future beyond this season is far from certain. Depends. The fans have a huge decision to make. Currently, the value is low due to no home from 2024. If planning is granted then "Peterborough Panthers" has future value hence why Buster will refuse peanuts. On the flip side, Tomlin could set up a totally new club, say, 'Panthers of Peterborough City' & there'd be absolutely nothing Buster could do as 'Peterborough Panthers' would be defunct & it's only the 'in name' rights he holds. It's all about whether the fans would be 100% accepting of being the 'blue, pink & green machine' over the 'red & black attack' if you kbow what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walton Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Panther1997 said: Where's this been confirmed please? Radio interview last weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambpanther Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Freddie Lindgren.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther1997 Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Walton said: Radio interview last weekend Do you have a link to it please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octoberon Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Haza said: All that with at best 2000 people coming through the turnstiles each meeting sadly all you say doesn’t add up to be financially viable- unless it’s a multi purpose stadium-stock cars / pop concerts/ football /rugby - with a clubhouse big enough for weddings and parties- can see that’s the only way it could be viable- just speedway it doesn’t add up They did say at the end of last season that any new venue would be multi usage in conjunction / partnership with those users who have already been asked to leave the showground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said: But the land,grandstand,fixtures and fittings etc etc are not the only financial outlays.What about the utilities to basically be installed in the middle of a field.Electic,sewers,water,telecommunications,and a huge drainage system would also be needed.You don't get all these things put in for free of charge, that's why there aren't any new tracks appearing in the UK being built from scatch.With the amount of people coming through the turnstiles speedway just isn't a viable proposition. The rumoured site is 27 acres i think i read on here. The only way i think it might work is if MT incorporates the speedway and his large auction venue on the same site. It will still cost a fair wedge, but the above would need to be there for the auction site, so it wouldn't be as costly as just using a field just for speedway. Edited February 10, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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