Roger Jacobs Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: No excuse Has BassoRacingFan deleted the comment? There was a two minute silence, the National Anthem was played, and Kevin Long gave (by all accounts) an excellent tribute. British Speedway literally cannot afford to postpone* matches - especially at this stage of the season. The show must go on ... HM was fulfilling her duties just three days before she passed away. RIP. *As any fool knows, "cancel" means that a match is not restaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I spoke to someone who knows him, and they told me he don't even like to talk speedway. Don't seem interested. Like a lot of people on the planet he doesn't talk work outside of work. I find it quite human rather than not interested. 10 hours ago, 89buttons said: Before the season the belle vue crowd on here were up in arms about how we signed him and allegedly did them dirty after a verbal agreement… wonder if they want to swap him for matej zagar for the playoffs or have they gotten over it?? Haha the frustration with Troy is that he’s not a bad rider, clearly talented and at times this season we’ve seen just how good he can be, but others like this evening he’s looked like he can’t even turn the bike 10 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: I don’t get that impression when he’s racing this season to be fair. I’d like to think I can spot a rider not bothering and I’ve seen a few over the years. He just doesn’t look particularly quick and has to go in to defensive mode when he’s made the gate to stay in front. And to his credit he’s pretty clever in the way he does that at times. 10 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Who knows 10 hours ago, Baldyman said: It's like he flips a coin before a meeting,,, heads I'm going to be good,, tails I'm gonna have a shocker Troy's had a lot of problems with engines this year and has spent a lot of money trying to get them right for him. He'll be the first to admit that when he gets the right engines performing he's as good as they come, but when they are not doing what he needs them to do he struggles. Every rider has their plusses and minuses, when he's good he's very good, when he's bad, he's bad. The perception is that he doesn't care. That's wrong, but I understand why people think it. I've known many riders over the years who can make themselves look "all action" and trying really hard, when in reality they are not. Troy isn't one of them. If he's struggling for performance you'll see it, if he's flying, you'll know it. He's not everyone's cup of tea, I think he's been good value this year on a 5.5 despite his problems. I totally get the frustration because he can be world class on his day, so why can't he be like that every day? If he knew how to be like that do you really think he wouldn't do it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, arnieg said: But the history behind that state is that when League Cup fixtures were included in riders averages there were several high profile examples of average rigging to allow team changes that gave some teams what was perceived to be an unfair advantage. You can argue for inclusion ,or against, but it has to be accepted that neither will give ideal outcomes 100% of the time. Average rigging has gone on since the sport started, the only real argument is to make all official matches count towards GSA, league, all cups and play offs etc, the more matches that count the less an average can be manipulated. Thats why it’s interesting that the BSPL have this year decided to reduce the amount that matches that count towards an average. No explanation has been provided for this so everyone can draw their own conclusions as to why it’s been done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, wtf said: Like a lot of people on the planet he doesn't talk work outside of work. I find it quite human rather than not interested. Troy's had a lot of problems with engines this year and has spent a lot of money trying to get them right for him. He'll be the first to admit that when he gets the right engines performing he's as good as they come, but when they are not doing what he needs them to do he struggles. Every rider has their plusses and minuses, when he's good he's very good, when he's bad, he's bad. The perception is that he doesn't care. That's wrong, but I understand why people think it. I've known many riders over the years who can make themselves look "all action" and trying really hard, when in reality they are not. Troy isn't one of them. If he's struggling for performance you'll see it, if he's flying, you'll know it. He's not everyone's cup of tea, I think he's been good value this year on a 5.5 despite his problems. I totally get the frustration because he can be world class on his day, so why can't he be like that every day? If he knew how to be like that do you really think he wouldn't do it? As good as they come?...don't think so..he gives up when he's last. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, wtf said: Troy's had a lot of problems with engines this year Must have a bad year with engines at Sheffield last year as well then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Must have a bad year with engines at Sheffield last year as well then I think he just didn't take the the track actually on that point. Yes there is a frustration watching him as you never quite know in advance what you might get, I've seen him get 12 and 13+ this season, and when he does that the Witches tend to win big, and then get a 4 - then to be fair Danny has had a few meetings like that too However his 'proper' average as I like to call it has been about 7 this season so he been a worthwhile addition for the Witches. Edited September 9, 2022 by GeneralMelchett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: *As any fool knows, "cancel" means that a match is not restaged. Too many fools about nowadays! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Flappy said: I'd take King at Peterborough next season What on earth for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Must have a bad year with engines at Sheffield last year as well then No, just hated the track as most of your own riders do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 A swap for Basso,,, that will do nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Baldyman said: A swap for Basso,,, that will do nicely Take Nicholls or and Andersen both ride Foxhall well and could be at reserve if built correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I spoke to someone who knows him, and they told me he don't even like to talk speedway. Don't seem interested. He definitely wasn't interested last night, free wheeling into every turn apart from the first lap of his first ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Confirmed in Panthers report of the match: "However, Basso has been struggling with a shoulder injury in recent weeks and further wrenched it during the meeting, meaning that having ridden in Heats 13 and 14, he did not feel physically able to contest Heat 15." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Confirmed in Panthers report of the match: "However, Basso has been struggling with a shoulder injury in recent weeks and further wrenched it during the meeting, meaning that having ridden in Heats 13 and 14, he did not feel physically able to contest Heat 15." There we go. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: There we go. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Sure it will be fine for todays GP practice I jest, Basso, Harris and Jenkins over the past 6 weeks have been the only shining light on a thoroughly awful season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.1 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Panthers99 said: Sure it will be fine for todays GP practice I jest, Basso, Harris and Jenkins over the past 6 weeks have been the only shining light on a thoroughly awful season. GP practice is on Saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 Batchelor is an embarrassment to speedway, no idea why he does it, I can’t see what he can get out of it, he clearly doesn’t enjoy it. Maybe he is on a very nice downside agreement regardless of what points he scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, marko said: Batchelor is an embarrassment to speedway, no idea why he does it, I can’t see what he can get out of it, he clearly doesn’t enjoy it. Maybe he is on a very nice downside agreement regardless of what points he scores. As someone who has seen him ride for Ipswich I think generally his commitment has been excellent. he was signed as a 5 point rider and is now riding in the tough number 5 position. He has had some fantastic 5-1 wins with Doyley yes he relies on his gating but he can pass when in the mood. He needs to feel valued and he is at Ipswich as he was at Swindon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: As someone who has seen him ride for Ipswich I think generally his commitment has been excellent. he was signed as a 5 point rider and is now riding in the tough number 5 position. He has had some fantastic 5-1 wins with Doyley yes he relies on his gating but he can pass when in the mood. He needs to feel valued and he is at Ipswich as he was at Swindon. I think that's why he confounds and annoys a lot of fans. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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