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Zmarzlik really is a cut above the rest, patently obvious. Indeed the Russians need to return. If Danill Medvedev is still allowed to compete in Tennis, so should these riders. There has to be someone out there to take over the reigns of commentating for the UK viewers. As much as I like Tatum, he’s not a lead anchor. David Rowe a much better option alongside Kelvin for 2023. I actually feel the Polish feed is far better.

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3 hours ago, Undercover Elephant said:

Zmarzlik really is a cut above the rest, patently obvious. Indeed the Russians need to return. If Danill Medvedev is still allowed to compete in Tennis, so should these riders. There has to be someone out there to take over the reigns of commentating for the UK viewers. As much as I like Tatum, he’s not a lead anchor. David Rowe a much better option alongside Kelvin for 2023. I actually feel the Polish feed is far better.

Nobody needs russians in anything

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10 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Tai is talking a good story, but like you the jury out out for me too.His league form has been poor this season too.

I do get the feeling he is trying to convince himself as much as everyone else by how he is talking...

Where a few years ago he lined up at the tapes against the opposition and you could easily see him winning, or at worst running a second, you now look at him lining up and think "he won't win this and could easily be last"...

Hopefully wrong, but a big ask to even get top 3 I would suggest given how far behind those riders he now is..

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10 hours ago, Fromafar said:

It would intersting to see who they would pick between Doyle and Vaculik  ,espiecially if Doyle scored more than Vaculik if  they are out of top 6.Maybe none of them.

Maybe if Fricke qualifies they may keep Vaculik to spread the nations who compete in it around? 

Discovery want it to become 'global' dont they? So will want as many nations in it as they can you would think..

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9 minutes ago, mikebv said:

I do get the feeling he is trying to convince himself as much as everyone else by how he is talking...

Where a few years ago he lined up at the tapes against the opposition and you could easily see him winning, or at worst running a second, you now look at him lining up and think "he won't win this and could easily be last"...

Hopefully wrong, but a big ask to even get top 3 I would suggest given how far behind those riders he now is..

He just doesn’t seem to want involved at the 1st Bend these days if he doesn’t gate.He’s be there and done it though,not sure he can do it again.

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12 hours ago, MattB said:

Zmarzlik really does pose a threat to Mauger and Rickardsson's record without a strong and consistent challenger.

In fairness to him, he can only beat what's in front of him

Imagine how many Mauger would have won under this formula with his outstanding consitency? And he had to do all the qualifiers too.

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45 minutes ago, mikebv said:

I do get the feeling he is trying to convince himself as much as everyone else by how he is talking...

Where a few years ago he lined up at the tapes against the opposition and you could easily see him winning, or at worst running a second, you now look at him lining up and think "he won't win this and could easily be last"...

Hopefully wrong, but a big ask to even get top 3 I would suggest given how far behind those riders he now is..

I'll start off by saying I'm a big Tai fan and all he "has done". And that's the trouble, as each year passes without a World Championship, a credible challenge or even a GP win sooner or later you have to back up what you say you're going to do with some actions.

For me, and it'll never happen in a million years, he needs to be dropped from the series if he doesn't finish top 6, for his own good. You can tell by his demeanour in the pits that he's far too comfortable with himself and seems to have an air of entitlement that he should be there, I don't think he does the GP qualifiers does he? Have a mediocre season (by his standards) get a wildcard, rinse and repeat.

Maybe a spell on the outside looking in will be the kick up the @rse he needs?

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1 hour ago, Tinker said:

I think the GP's have been mediocre at best this year. To be honest I'm getting bored of watching them and it's all rather same old, same old.

I much prefer watching the British League stuff any day of the week.

Track Prep has poor.IMO.Even last night Kelvin was saying how good the track was going to be under normal prep,but he soon changed his mind when he seen how tyre packed and slick it was.It got a bit better as the night went on but it was not great.It’s gate and go track prep.

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Frankly it's an age thing..In your 20's you don't see danger...then you have a family.nice house..plenty of (cushioned) sponsorship..it happens and only the REALLY exceptional sports stars improve when in their 30's.....you just get fed up of racing/playing etc..

Also Mr W. has been doing this for nearly 20 years..and you could see that he wants (deservedly) his home comforts...living in UK..and commuting to Poland...possibly racing at BV or Wolves.Sheffield..and not Sweden...must have an attraction...also Kiddies schooling ust come into the equation.

In the 30's you lose your GENUNE hunger..also reflexes..sometimes your desire..and later on you blame everyone else rather than your creeping years ..its human nature....

He has nothing to prove...and REAL HOME beckons..which is and always has been in Aussie...sensibly. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Zmarzlik is different class.

Interesting they talk about needing 10,000 at Belle Vue to be viable,dont know how were there tonight but it was certainly not packed.Must have good Sponsors.

Also interesting listening to Doyle telling us tuners rip the riders off and don’t produce what he needs.Yet Janowski who has had a poor season says  his equipment fine ,just the rider.Doyle needs to stop whinging he’s done it his whole career.

The reliance on tuners shouldn't even be a thing in speedway but it’s the riders who drive it that way, Doyle is riding as hard as ever but clearly his bikes are not going forward the way he wants,  woffinden is a fantastic tactical aware rider but imo talks it now but doesn't walk it anymore, you never lose talent and he has bags of it but you do lose belief in yourself and I think that’s where he is now ,in the vojens GP he visibly did a first corner where he waited for the other 3 to get their positions and he was last as a result, that’s not the body language of someone who really wants it, not undermining the other 3 but he should of walked his last qualifying race last night but only got 2nd cause of an engine failure, I also don’t understand woffinden and madsen talking who good they are going to be next year, it’s like they don’t care about this years championship, woffinden especially as he might not even qualify but he knows he will get a wild card pick

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1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Track Prep has poor.IMO.Even last night Kelvin was saying how good the track was going to be under normal prep,but he soon changed his mind when he seen how tyre packed and slick it was.It got a bit better as the night went on but it was not great.It’s gate and go track prep.

Thats because they doing practise same day now which does track no good at all

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