ch958 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 15 hours ago, mikebv said: If only the Swindon Promoters had a venue to continue the sport somewhere in Swindon.. Ideally a venue with a main stand and a track would be ideal.. Anyone with any idea where there may be one being constructed within the Borough Of Swindon..? Maybe someone locating one could get say a 20% finders fee for finding it... I've always thought the land where Swindon Supermarine play could be suitable, looking at google maps - maybe the locals can comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) The first thing that should happen if Swindon has any chance is removing the licence from wideboy Russell. Has no intention of bringing speedway back & is clearly working with Osbourne to stop it. Does the BSPA have the bottle & courage to do that? No, they'll just continue to bury their heads in the sand & see clubs just dwindle away. You only had to watch the planning inquiry regarding Brandon to see the real views of Osbourne & that smarmy wally Gareth Hooper. As soon as anyone at the BSPA saw that then the licence at Swindon should have been removed from Russell. Edited October 25, 2023 by Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenTheVillen Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chris said: Does the BSPA have the bottle & courage to do that? No, they'll just continue to bury their heads in the sand & see clubs just dwindle away. You do understand the BSPA are actually just the other promoters and not just a group of tyrants with a load of axes to weild? If Godfrey wanted the same and you suggest above and the others out vote him he has to come out publicly and state the outcome decided, he gets the blame (because he s head honcho) even if he didn't vote for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 10 hours ago, heathen52 said: Basically for the same reason that Monmore Green (Wolves) has just closed for Speedway, the owners of the Stadiums don't want it though probably for different reasons Swindon simply want to get as many houses built on the Abbey Stadium site as they can get, Monmore Green the reason given was that to many Greyhounds are getting injured by debri from the Speedway Track. Thank you for explaining. So very sad. If local people also wanted rid of speedway I wonder how they would feel with more houses and the consequences of it. More people requiring already stretched amenities, etc. We have Swindon, Peterborough and Wolves stood standing with both tracks and amenities within the stadium and Coventry with a track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, MillenTheVillen said: You do understand the BSPA are actually just the other promoters and not just a group of tyrants with a load of axes to weild? If Godfrey wanted the same and you suggest above and the others out vote him he has to come out publicly and state the outcome decided, he gets the blame (because he s head honcho) even if he didn't vote for it. Don't be naive. It's on the chairman & the management committee to do their job & remove the licence. What are they doing at Rye House & Peterborough where there is a chance of speedway next season? if they put a bit of pressure on or financial incentives on the table to the leaseholders but it's silence as usual. Too many clowns like Godfrey, Chapman & Harkess running the sport have killed it off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Chris said: Don't be naive. It's on the chairman & the management committee to do their job & remove the licence. What are they doing at Rye House & Peterborough where there is a chance of speedway next season? if they put a bit of pressure on or financial incentives on the table to the leaseholders but it's silence as usual. Too many clowns like Godfrey, Chapman & Harkess running the sport have killed it off. Thats Godfrey, Louis, Bates and Ford!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, frigbo said: The penny is slowly dropping at BSPL towers... Surely, as it was so obvious, the penny dropped the moment what was announced came out...? There is a very good track, with a brand new stadium, in a town that has supported a Speedway team for decades in more than decent numbers... Surely all they now need is a promoter to run a Speedway team there...? Wonder why someone hasn't come forward? Edited October 25, 2023 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, mikebv said: Surely, as it was so obvious, the penny dropped the moment what was announced came out...? There is a very good track, with a brand new stadium, in a town that has supported a Speedway team for decades in more than decent numbers... Surely all they now need is a promoter to run a Speedway team there...? Wonder why someone hasn't come forward? Matt Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Start a bike up for 20 mins and see how quick a resident complains. All the stadium and pits building is just a tick box exercise. Sadly, the Abbey won't see speedway again and the BSPA will just hope everyone gives up and it disappears without a whimper. Have the BSPA ever come out to defend Brandon, Wolverhampton or Peterborough? They should be up in arms and have legal bods all over these venues to prove speedway has a following and a place in society. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing anything.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Dog said: Start a bike up for 20 mins and see how quick a resident complains. All the stadium and pits building is just a tick box exercise. Sadly, the Abbey won't see speedway again and the BSPA will just hope everyone gives up and it disappears without a whimper. Have the BSPA ever come out to defend Brandon, Wolverhampton or Peterborough? They should be up in arms and have legal bods all over these venues to prove speedway has a following and a place in society. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing anything.. Unfortunately I cannot correct you. I only wish I could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, fliss44 said: Matt Ford? At one time Matt Ford was going into partnership with Terry Russell at Swindon. This was confirmed in one of the Speedway Podcasts - Lee Ashby's I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Unfortunately the bspa have no clout regarding other people’s property and therefore its not their call what does or does not happen at these venues sad to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) On 10/25/2023 at 3:50 PM, mikebv said: Surely, as it was so obvious, the penny dropped the moment what was announced came out...? There is a very good track, with a brand new stadium, in a town that has supported a Speedway team for decades in more than decent numbers... Surely all they now need is a promoter to run a Speedway team there...? Wonder why someone hasn't come forward? You would have thought it wasn't too difficult to suss out wouldn't you? Whilst the licence remains with that git Russell, we aren't going to move forward. First job is to get him away from any association with Swindon Speedway and kill off the fake Swindon Motorsports sham. Edited October 26, 2023 by frigbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Toady said: Unfortunately the bspa have no clout regarding other people’s property and therefore its not their call what does or does not happen at these venues sad to say. Agree. What is the point of this body of people. No clout, ineffective and within the cesspit of controllers overseeing the sport a bunch of bullies who do not like it when you do not play by their restrictive rules and can stoop so low as they did with Kent. It really is time that those clubs who believe in the sport break away from the fat controllers and run a business that entertains the punter and does the right thing for speedway. At the moment it is endemic amongst those who jokingly run the sport insist that it is our way or no way. Look where that has got the sport over the last few years. Well done BSPA/BSPL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of clubs Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 The Russells have done nothing but take from British Speedway, just look at all the tracks they have been associated with, nearly all of them are now defunct. I said this years ago and was criticised for it. I liken them to the Kray brothers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Don't get hung up on the "licence" to run speedway. You must be able to buy one cheaply on ebay or any other online website . Not worth a cent if housing developers own the land and are intent on building houses to help satisfy government house building targets. Anyone who ever thought Swindon speedway would EVER survive with peoples lovely new houses backing onto the speedway ... well naive is one word. There's much more money in housing than speedway or even greyhounds. How long do we really think Monmore will remain a greyhound track ?? Convenient excuse to get speedway out and clear the pitch to attract a housing developer .....£m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, one of clubs said: The Russells have done nothing but take from British Speedway, just look at all the tracks they have been associated with, nearly all of them are now defunct. I said this years ago and was criticised for it. I liken them to the Kray brothers. Yeh did nothing for Swindon, hang on a minute they only delivered 3 league titles and some fantastic teams over the years so not all take ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 This situation seems to get more odd as time goes on, can't imagine how frustrating it is for Swindon fans knowing there's a perfectly good track and stadium there. Russell saying it wasn't financially viable made no sense. There was no attempt to sell the club, attract new investment or even lower the costs by dropping down to the Championship where at least they'd be guaranteed some big crowds against Oxford and Poole. It was just that's it, we're done. To then team up with Osborne to look for a new site makes it even stranger given his history and reputation, you wouldn't even consider that unless you're a complete mug which I don't think he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 15 hours ago, Toady said: Yeh did nothing for Swindon, hang on a minute they only delivered 3 league titles and some fantastic teams over the years so not all take ! If my memory serves me right, they gave the fans 2 farewell meetings too didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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