Steve Shovlar Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, frigbo said: Poole is firmly in Osborne's sights, no doubt about that Luckily he doesn’t own the stadium at Poole. He is no more than the current lease holder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Luckily he doesn’t own the stadium at Poole. He is no more than the current lease holder. Let's hope it stays that way and he has no influence on the Council over the stadium's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 (edited) On 6/19/2024 at 4:10 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Luckily he doesn’t own the stadium at Poole. He is no more than the current lease holder. Yes but that means very little, Perry Barr is leased but Its public knowledge that Birmingham city Council would like to see it developed sooner rather than later and have told the leaseholder words to that effect, so who knows what's happening behind the scenes at Wimborne road. Edited June 21 by heathen52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 (edited) The stadium was left to the council as a gift that it would always be a sporting stadium. If the council wanted to build houses on the land, Osbourne would be given the boot. Edited June 21 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 (edited) On 6/21/2024 at 10:08 PM, Steve Shovlar said: The stadium was left to the council as a gift that it would always be a sporting stadium. If the council wanted to build houses on the land, Osbourne would be given the boot. Not if Osbourne offered to fund the building development in partnership with a property company eg Taylor Wimpey or similar?! The Council cant afford to fund new buildings themselves. Having said that, if/when the time comes there will be a helluva fan protest.........! Edited June 23 by Skidder1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Live greyhound racing from Swindon on Sky Sports Live now. Thought all sporting events had stopped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 7 hours ago, secsy1 said: Live greyhound racing from Swindon on Sky Sports Live now. Thought all sporting events had stopped? GI have said greyhounds end "by the end of the year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 https://www.swindon.gov.uk/news/article/1047/council_provides_update_on_abbey_stadium_development Stick a fork in it.... Council had their belly tickled from day one, as we all know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 So according to the Swindon Council "It is now for Gaming International, as owners to recognise the importance of speedway in Swindon and bring forward the final phase for the Abbey Stadium site in line with the existing permission.” And if they don't ? Is it a case of "so what"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 36 minutes ago, 1 valve said: So according to the Swindon Council "It is now for Gaming International, as owners to recognise the importance of speedway in Swindon and bring forward the final phase for the Abbey Stadium site in line with the existing permission.” And if they don't ? Is it a case of "so what"? Nothing. https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/24491058.abbey-stadium-homes-swindon-not-breach-planning-rules/ I think when swindon council planning wrote the minimum criteria for the stadium it was poorly done, especially given the form of Gaming International. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, 1 valve said: So according to the Swindon Council "It is now for Gaming International, as owners to recognise the importance of speedway in Swindon and bring forward the final phase for the Abbey Stadium site in line with the existing permission.” And if they don't ? Is it a case of "so what"? Absolutely zero consequence or jeopardy for GI now. This is the last element of the planning left, they've ticked all their housing boxes. Swindon Borough Council have been played like a fiddle from day one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, eric i said: Nothing. https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/24491058.abbey-stadium-homes-swindon-not-breach-planning-rules/ I think when swindon council planning wrote the minimum criteria for the stadium it was poorly done, especially given the form of Gaming International. Before work commenced on this phase of the stadium build the report passed to the planning dept clearly advised them to include measures in the 106 to ensure Speedway’s future at the stadium, however it would seem they chose not to include those measures therefore leaving the door wide open for Osbourne. Some may believe this to have been intentional. Summary of Recommendation: That the Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage be authorised to APPROVE the reserved matters, subject to the conditions set out in the report (together with any amended, omitted or additional conditions) upon the completion of a Section 106 obligation to mitigate the impact of the development and to ensure the satisfactory completion of the stadium development and the other strategic infrastructure, including the open space and play areas and the construction of the necessary drainage infrastructure. In the event that the applicant fails to enter into an agreement or fails to agree to an extension of time for the determination of the application to enable the Council as Local Planning Authority to deal with these matters, then the Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage be authorised to refuse the approval of reserved matters and; The Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage, in consultation with the Head of Legal Services, be authorised to take planning enforcement action and other legal action regarding the breaches of the s106 planning obligation. 3 It is recommended that the section 106 agreement should include the following matters; No additional housing is to be developed until the new stadium is operational and substantially complete. (The definition of operational and substantial completion to be agreed in the s106 agreement.) Other extant permissions and approvals previously granted for alternative proposals (the revised outline S/OUT/14/0833 and subsequent reserved matters approval S/RES/16/0036 for the new stadium) are to be revoked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 8 minutes ago, Toady said: Before work commenced on this phase of the stadium build the report passed to the planning dept clearly advised them to include measures in the 106 to ensure Speedway’s future at the stadium, however it would seem they chose not to include those measures therefore leaving the door wide open for Osbourne. Some may believe this to have been intentional. Summary of Recommendation: That the Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage be authorised to APPROVE the reserved matters, subject to the conditions set out in the report (together with any amended, omitted or additional conditions) upon the completion of a Section 106 obligation to mitigate the impact of the development and to ensure the satisfactory completion of the stadium development and the other strategic infrastructure, including the open space and play areas and the construction of the necessary drainage infrastructure. In the event that the applicant fails to enter into an agreement or fails to agree to an extension of time for the determination of the application to enable the Council as Local Planning Authority to deal with these matters, then the Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage be authorised to refuse the approval of reserved matters and; The Head of Planning, Regulatory Services and Heritage, in consultation with the Head of Legal Services, be authorised to take planning enforcement action and other legal action regarding the breaches of the s106 planning obligation. 3 It is recommended that the section 106 agreement should include the following matters; No additional housing is to be developed until the new stadium is operational and substantially complete. (The definition of operational and substantial completion to be agreed in the s106 agreement.) Other extant permissions and approvals previously granted for alternative proposals (the revised outline S/OUT/14/0833 and subsequent reserved matters approval S/RES/16/0036 for the new stadium) are to be revoked If the council collectively or individual officers have acted incorrectly then such matters can in the first place be reported to the Monitoring Officer and Standards Committees as per local authority & government Ombudsman procedures as council the council must do what is required by law. Of course it will need somebody or recognised campaign group preferably from the locality to raise the issue in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 8/2/2024 at 12:46 PM, frigbo said: Absolutely zero consequence or jeopardy for GI now. This is the last element of the planning left, they've ticked all their housing boxes. Swindon Borough Council have been played like a fiddle from day one. Swindon council haven’t been played at all, this is what councils do, it’s about money, having seen first hand another councils work recently Swindon’s council stance is no surprise, they say anything to appease in public but do the opposite in reality 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 (edited) 17 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Swindon council haven’t been played at all, this is what councils do, it’s about money, having seen first hand another councils work recently Swindon’s council stance is no surprise, they say anything to appease in public but do the opposite in reality I'm under no illusions of the likelihood of them being complicit in this end result. They needed Osborne onside to complete some recent work in the housing estate. Osborne purposely held back on that to use as a bargaining tool. Once that was done, the speedway planning statement was released and the Council backed off. Edited August 5 by frigbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/24512822.new-fight-launched-keep-swindon-speedway-abbey-stadium/?ref=socialflow&fbclid=IwY2xjawEodFRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYd9gJiimx0L1hiuz7o9SyEhcxK7gsZ997L3lRLjq88-3dC9FrmjOXUmSA_aem_zCZroNQR6mnfslwGmKVJlg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 Complete stitch up from day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Complete stitch up from day 1. Of course. It was never going to be anything but... However, I bet the parties concerned never expected such an easy ride from those in opposition to the plans.. The lack of any fight basically rubber stamped the situation that now exists... "We just have to trust that all will end well" seemed to be the "plan of action".... Coventry showed how a pressure group should work.. Swindon didn't seem to have a pressure group.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Of course. It was never going to be anything but... However, I bet the parties concerned never expected such an easy ride from those in opposition to the plans.. The lack of any fight basically rubber stamped the situation that now exists... "We just have to trust that all will end well" seemed to be the "plan of action".... Coventry showed how a pressure group should work.. Swindon didn't seem to have a pressure group.. i think one is beginning to get off the ground .. Its a bit la. in the day but hopefully it can still make a impact . The problem with Swindon is that its taken a lot of time for everyone to be on the same page and understand what gaming are all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, orion said: i think one is beginning to get off the ground .. Its a bit la. in the day but hopefully it can still make a impact . The problem with Swindon is that its taken a lot of time for everyone to be on the same page and understand what gaming are all about Which is amazing given the track record... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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