cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: Yes but why keep knocking our leagues.Others aren't so perfect None of the league's are perfect. However from a credibility point of view out league's are a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Cardiff Sgp2 endurance Peterborough Tyre gate Plymouth fire starter British final washout Rain off er what rain Plymouth team of world stars. I,m sure I have missed one or two. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: Nobody seems to have mentioned anything about the absolute farce in the Polish play offs with Torun losing in quarter final but going through into semi final as a lucky loser how ridiculous is that That's good for British (world) Speedway as it's the start of the decline of Polish Speedway. Soon their fans will realise they're starting to be mugged off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 21 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: What do you mean? The super heat was by far the best race of the night in terms of passing The false result ...... it was a draw ...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Nobody seems to have mentioned anything about the absolute farce in the Polish play offs with Torun losing in quarter final but going through into semi final as a lucky loser how ridiculous is that I've seen this said a few times, how did it work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, topaz325 said: British final washout The British Final washout was not a farce. The SCB Regulations were followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 23 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: What do you mean? The super heat was by far the best race of the night in terms of passing The fact that the Stupid Heat was a very good race is coincidental - it could have been dull. The point is that the Stupid Heat is unnecessary, and gives a false result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Nobody seems to have mentioned anything about the absolute farce in the Polish play offs with Torun losing in quarter final but going through into semi final as a lucky loser how ridiculous is that It was in Poland ..so its great .I thought everyone knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Trees said: The false result ...... it was a draw ...... You are correct - it was a draw with Ipswich getting 3 points for winning the super heat. Super heats are in the rules so the result was not false - you may not like it but it won’t change the resulting points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said: The British Final washout was not a farce. The SCB Regulations were followed. The fans were washed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 All the debates regarding the state of British speedway (not to be confused with other similar products held outside England and Scotland) is irrelevant when the sport has a number of fronts to fight to save its existence. You have track owners with a few being on the top table who make the rules up as they go along, riders who have an inflated valuation on their services and then the local authorities who are as crooked as they come (see Swindon, Coventry and no doubt many on here can name others who simply do not want a speedway track in their back yard). The joke is on the punter who continues to pay to cross the threshold of the surviving tracks where many serve up little in the form of entertainment and yet pretend that everything is fine. It is a sport which has not changed with the times and regardless of the age of supporters, it neither meets the idea of a slick presentation that can get the terraces excited nor is credible given the rules etc. and as a prospective business opportunity has zero appeal in terms of making a return in its own right without the addition of 3rd party contributions from sponsors etc. Start again get back to basics and become a part time occupation for the riders and a streaming service that punters can tap into for live speedway if they wish. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 hours ago, steve roberts said: ...knowing the BSPA they are just as likely to introduce such a ruling here in their continual "blind alley". They would need more than six teams to let six qualify for the play offs... Although.... Maybe not..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Yes but why keep knocking our leagues.Others aren't so perfect We are not talking about other Countries ,if they have problems leave them to solve them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, topaz325 said: The fans were washed out The meeting was abandoned - not sure what else could have been done? I agree that ticket holders could maybe get a discount on the re-staging, but other than that there was nothing unusual about the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Yes as you say normal ....Speedway keeping fans hanging around in the rain for around 40 minutes but that’s about normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve0 said: You are correct - it was a draw with Ipswich getting 3 points for winning the super heat. Super heats are in the rules so the result was not false - you may not like it but it won’t change the resulting points. Maybe not as far as the rules go but wrong as far as the fair result of the meeting goes imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, Trees said: Maybe not as far as the rules go but wrong as far as the fair result of the meeting goes imo! Tress in negative post shock - surely she's been hacked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Trees said: Maybe not as far as the rules go but wrong as far as the fair result of the meeting goes imo! What wasn’t fair about it? Peterborough didn’t lose their point for the “draw”. If their point was taken away I’d agree with you. The scoring system for this superheat isn’t flawless as much as I like the concept of it. Speedway has more of a home advantage than other sports as we all know, because of track knowledge and machine set ups etc. home sides will always have an advantage which is why in my opinion they got the scoring spot on for a draw, 1 point for the home side (you can’t give a team nothing for not losing the match) and 2 points for an away draw as it’s definitely a better result for an away team than a home team. This is where the discrepancy comes in for the superheat point scoring. We effectively gained an extra point for winning the superheat, turning a 2 point “draw” in to a 3 point win. Whereas if Peterborough had won the superheat, they’d have gained an extra 2 points instead of one. Not sure that can be right so it’s certainly not perfect. Or have I completely lost my marbles and got the old point scoring for a draw wrong? It was 1 for a home draw and 2 for an away draw wasn’t it? Edited September 7, 2022 by Arch Stanton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Hawk127 said: All the debates regarding the state of British speedway (not to be confused with other similar products held outside England and Scotland) is irrelevant when the sport has a number of fronts to fight to save its existence. You have track owners with a few being on the top table who make the rules up as they go along, riders who have an inflated valuation on their services and then the local authorities who are as crooked as they come (see Swindon, Coventry and no doubt many on here can name others who simply do not want a speedway track in their back yard). The joke is on the punter who continues to pay to cross the threshold of the surviving tracks where many serve up little in the form of entertainment and yet pretend that everything is fine. It is a sport which has not changed with the times and regardless of the age of supporters, it neither meets the idea of a slick presentation that can get the terraces excited nor is credible given the rules etc. and as a prospective business opportunity has zero appeal in terms of making a return in its own right without the addition of 3rd party contributions from sponsors etc. Start again get back to basics and become a part time occupation for the riders and a streaming service that punters can tap into for live speedway if they wish. How can riders have an inflated opinion of their worth if D#ckhead Promotions are prepared to pay them that rate? That's simply supply and demand. Speedway essentially hasn't changed in 60+ years, what has changed is the space for attention it competes in. There is much more competition for someone's spare disposable income these days. Fans forget they are nothing more than customers of a product. If you like the product, buy it, if you don't like it then don't. Despite what most think, you're entitled to nothing more. Speedway needs to evolve hugely, I agree, it needs to cut it's cloth accordingly. It probably doesn't need big stadia if it has few fans present and mainly streams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highside Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 It wouldn't surprise me if the BSPL came up with a stupid rule like gloves must be the same colour as helmet colours ,massive changes need to be made or there will be no speedway in 10 year . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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