Trees Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Poland does rule the roost but to be fair poland also has its fair share of ex riders who see the need for change That's good news, perhaps you and fellow ex riders are the ones to make lots of noise to help our sport survive? Us fans don't really understand engines and what their characteristics are and what real difference they can make to racing, all fans do is not go anymore and that's no help to anyone ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I have in my workshop a short stroke GM with 93mm piston, I can’t imagine how hard that would be to ride in a British track but clearly someone did, thing is there are ex riders out there who speak up about engines but get shot down by the current riders, saying things like “you can’t stop progress” but it isn’t progress , the sport is paying more to stand still or even go backwards, there could well of been a faulty batch of tyres yesterday but the tyre problem has been around for years but we plod on putting a plaster over gapping wounds, it breaks my heart what this sport has become and it has become unnecessarily Are there enough decent upright engines and bikes in this country to run a meeting with today's riders racing them? Would be a good experiment especially if a couple of tuners were involved and would be up for tuning 7 engines each ..... hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 How about bringing in the rev limiters that were supposed to have been introduced, but setting them to 8 or 9000 revs.that would surely see the end of the offset short stroke engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, castrolargh said: How about bringing in the rev limiters that were supposed to have been introduced, but setting them to 8 or 9000 revs.that would surely see the end of the offset short stroke engines? Rev Limiters has been mentioned in despatches for a number of years with riders , tv pundits etc all stating that this was a possible way forward for the sport in order to bring costs down. I believe Rory Schlein mentioned it on numerous occasions in Speedway Star but have never seen or heard of it being tested on any occasion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, Trees said: That's good news, perhaps you and fellow ex riders are the ones to make lots of noise to help our sport survive? Us fans don't really understand engines and what their characteristics are and what real difference they can make to racing, all fans do is not go anymore and that's no help to anyone ..... Last night was a prime example why fans don’t go anymore £20 for 10 heats - and there is other reasons British final farce Cardiff Gp track which should be a great advert for speedway - 6 team Premier league - guest riders being used what seems in every meeting wasn’t it Birmingham a few weeks ago had just one of there own riders - then on top of that cost of living crisis which is rammed down our throats by main stream media then you wonder why fans have stopped going ? What is surprising how many still go 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hackett said: Rev Limiters has been mentioned in despatches for a number of years with riders , tv pundits etc all stating that this was a possible way forward for the sport in order to bring costs down. I believe Rory Schlein mentioned it on numerous occasions in Speedway Star but have never seen or heard of it being tested on any occasion We currently have Rev limiters in the sport set at 13,500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hackett said: Rev Limiters has been mentioned in despatches for a number of years with riders , tv pundits etc all stating that this was a possible way forward for the sport in order to bring costs down. I believe Rory Schlein mentioned it on numerous occasions in Speedway Star but have never seen or heard of it being tested on any occasion I was asked back in 2013 about rev limiters by the powers that be and for input as to what would be workable. I advised a limit of 11000 rpm would reduce costs significantly to the point where service intervals could be doubled at least. All this was taken on board and other views we’re sought (quite rightly) then they come back with a limit if 13500 rpm for use going forward and that’s their current intention. The best laugh about it is that the bikes currently without rev limiters don’t rev that high under load you couldn’t make it up the only people on the planet who benefit from limiters being set that high are engine tuners cos the stuff will still wear out in next to no time go figure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sully said: If brand new tyres weren’t lasting 4 laps, what makes you think used tyres would? thats something we will never know because the riders never got a chance to use them , hence many p off fans will they be @ p,boro for the next meeting . l never mind next season , 11 hours ago, Sully said: If brand new tyres weren’t lasting 4 laps, what makes you think used tyres would? lets wait and see . Edited August 30, 2022 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Lefty said: Is it time to put studs in the tyres as in Ice Racing? That way one tyre could last all season and the studs could rip the track up and save the need for extra track grading. No extra track grading, don't think Buster would be happy with that, you know how much he likes to get his toys out for a about a dozen laps or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 Its heart breaking to see the mess the Sport has got itself in to, and the BSPL seem powerless or brainless to do anything about it, us as fans are indeed impotent to do anything about it but hope season after season the BSPL grasp the nettle but they seem as impotent as us fans , all I can say is the last one out turn the lights off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 The SCB have issued a Supplementary Regulation today: Amendment to the Tyre Regulation for the Peterborough circuit only. 04.2.19 Tyres – addition For the remaining of the 2022 season the tyre regulation for the Peterborough circuit will be as follows – Each Team will have supplied 14 new ANLAS – FIM/ANSW03020 SW003 for use in each meeting, which are not rider specific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: The SCB have issued a Supplementary Regulation today: Amendment to the Tyre Regulation for the Peterborough circuit only. 04.2.19 Tyres – addition For the remaining of the 2022 season the tyre regulation for the Peterborough circuit will be as follows – Each Team will have supplied 14 new ANLAS – FIM/ANSW03020 SW003 for use in each meeting, which are not rider specific. Who pays for them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: The SCB have issued a Supplementary Regulation today: Amendment to the Tyre Regulation for the Peterborough circuit only. 04.2.19 Tyres – addition For the remaining of the 2022 season the tyre regulation for the Peterborough circuit will be as follows – Each Team will have supplied 14 new ANLAS – FIM/ANSW03020 SW003 for use in each meeting, which are not rider specific. This sounds like their admitting that theirs an issue with the Peterborough track without actually saying it... Or saying that there's a problem with the tyres without actually saying it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Dog said: This sounds like their admitting that theirs an issue with the Peterborough track without actually saying it... Or saying that there's a problem with the tyres without actually saying it... or riders refused to ride there unless it was done without actually saying it ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Dog said: This sounds like their admitting that theirs an issue with the Peterborough track without actually saying it... Or saying that there's a problem with the tyres without actually saying it... And a supplementary to the supplementary now that they've acknowledged the failing: all customers ripped off on Monday will get a 30% reduction on admission for any of Panthers remaining matches including the restaging. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Crump99 said: And a supplementary to the supplementary now that they've acknowledged the failing: all customers ripped off on Monday will get a 30% reduction on admission for any of Panthers remaining matches including the restaging. Totally. We're always at the back of the queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, NeilWatson said: The SCB have issued a Supplementary Regulation today: Amendment to the Tyre Regulation for the Peterborough circuit only. 04.2.19 Tyres – addition For the remaining of the 2022 season the tyre regulation for the Peterborough circuit will be as follows – Each Team will have supplied 14 new ANLAS – FIM/ANSW03020 SW003 for use in each meeting, which are not rider specific. You could supply 100 tyres to each team at the beginning of the match, it wouldn't make any difference if the tyres aren't lasting a race... unless the sport introduces pit stops! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 STATEMENT: PETERBOROUGH v SHEFFIELD Wednesday, August 31, 2022 BRITISH Speedway Promoters’ Ltd and our official tyre partner Anlas can confirm a full investigation into Monday’s abandoned Premiership fixture at Peterborough is taking place. All parties are fully committed to understanding the circumstances which led to a halt being called after ten races of the Panthers’ match against Sheffield, and to avoid a repeat in the future. Going forward, we can immediately confirm that for the remaining meetings at the East of England Arena this season, all riders will be provided with two new tyres at the start of the event. This will be in place in time for the Peterborough v Ipswich fixture on Monday September 5. The Alwalton circuit is unique in the sport, and has previously presented challenges with tyres, regardless of manufacturer. It is possible that the conditions arising from the afternoon start to the meeting were a contributory factor, especially bearing in mind that the previous occasion in which there were significant issues was also a Bank Holiday daytime event, although in that case it was possible to complete all 15 races. BSP Ltd and Anlas treat rider safety as top priority, and whilst accepting that isolated incidents are and always have been inevitable, we are all determined to reach a conclusion which overcomes the challenges presented by this circuit. As a club, Peterborough is as important to us as all others. Anlas were immediately in touch with us when they became aware of Monday’s issues, and we thank them for their continued support. We look forward to working with Anlas on finding the solutions which ensure the circumstances of Peterborough on Monday are not repeated, and we are all sorry for supporters present on the day that the meeting had to be curtailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Promoters only paying riders for 10 races - spectators paying for 15 races. MUGGED off again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, iainb said: You could supply 100 tyres to each team at the beginning of the match, it wouldn't make any difference if the tyres aren't lasting a race... unless the sport introduces pit stops! Don’t give them ideas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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