Time to move on

[secsy1]

Well it has been years since we had some refreshing new commentators in speedway.

Continually everyone goes on about the ageing spectators and a requirement for fresh new young ones to be introduced to the sport.

With the Advent of the BSN speedway and Clubs live streaming of matches a fresh young batch of presenters and commentators have arrived.

So stop bringing past old riders who cannot pronounce names, mix up riders and generally talk crap with poor presenters.

The British GP would have been far more entertaining, presentable and acceptable ( irrespective of the track) with the presentation teams

from Belle Vue and Scunthorpe

 

 

Edited August 14, 2022 by secsy1

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

5 minutes ago, secsy1 said:

Well it has been years since we had some refreshing new commentators in speedway.

Continually everyone goes on about the ageing spectators and a requirement for fresh new young ones to be introduced to the sport.

With the Advent of the BSN speedway and Clubs live streaming of matches a fresh young batch of presenters and commentators have arrived.

So stop bringing past old riders who cannot pronounce names, mix up riders and generally talk crap with poor presenters.

The British GP would have been far more entertaining, presentable and acceptable ( irrespective of the track) with the following presentation team.

Hayley Bromley, Spencer Dent, Dan Palmer and Paul Bowen.

 

Well that’s certainly a point of view and you are entitled to it 

[LisaColette]

They are okay for Championship, but GP is whole other ball game. 

[ray c]

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Well that’s certainly a point of view and you are entitled to it 

Hayley Bromley could be the new Natalie quirk like her on BSN 

[HGould]

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Well that’s certainly a point of view and you are entitled to it 

Listening to Hayley Bromley is like scratching polystyrene. 

Lee Kilby is head and shoulders above any of the newer Streaming Presenters. 

Knows the Sport too. 

Edited August 14, 2022 by HGould
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[Daniel Smith]

I don't necessarily think the commentators need updating. I think what's needed is this need to lie when it's a crap meeting. No other sport does it. Football, Cricket, Rugby etc, if it's a bad game it gets called a bad game. If someone's playing awful, they get called awful. 

The constant positivity has a negative effect. Take Cardiff yesterday for instance, it was a horrible watch, yet the commentary was bigging it up. If you're new to the sport & they're seeing the commentary bigging it up, why are these people going to give the sport a chance? They'd think "if this is good racing, I'd hate to see bad racing." 

JUST STOP THE LIES, WE DO HAVE EYES

 

[ch958]

20 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

I don't necessarily think the commentators need updating. I think what's needed is this need to lie when it's a crap meeting. No other sport does it. Football, Cricket, Rugby etc, if it's a bad game it gets called a bad game. If someone's playing awful, they get called awful. 

The constant positivity has a negative effect. Take Cardiff yesterday for instance, it was a horrible watch, yet the commentary was bigging it up. If you're new to the sport & they're seeing the commentary bigging it up, why are these people going to give the sport a chance? They'd think "if this is good racing, I'd hate to see bad racing." 

JUST STOP THE LIES, WE DO HAVE EYES

 

agree completely, no one will be making plans to attend their local track after that lot. The essential dichotomy is: good track, good racing, smaller crowd, good telly; or yesterday's serving. My choice would be the former. 

Having attended 4 Wembley finals, great occasions for sure but not purist racing in the main so its not a new issue

[steve roberts]

16 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

I don't necessarily think the commentators need updating. I think what's needed is this need to lie when it's a crap meeting. No other sport does it. Football, Cricket, Rugby etc, if it's a bad game it gets called a bad game. If someone's playing awful, they get called awful. 

The constant positivity has a negative effect. Take Cardiff yesterday for instance, it was a horrible watch, yet the commentary was bigging it up. If you're new to the sport & they're seeing the commentary bigging it up, why are these people going to give the sport a chance? They'd think "if this is good racing, I'd hate to see bad racing." 

JUST STOP THE LIES, WE DO HAVE EYES

 

...something that Dave Lanning once commented. If a race was bad just admit it and say that something better will come along shortly (hopefully!)

Edited August 15, 2022 by steve roberts

[keepturningleft]

Maybe Kelv and co are instructed by their paymasters to keep comments positive.

Boris Johnston will be out of a job soon and he is a Britains biggest habitual lier. Get him signed up!

[secsy1]

Only one who uttered an ounce of credibility was Jason Crump when he said seen worse tracks but just got on with it. 

Dangerous track....Now if Cardiff is not good enough I am sure Mildenhall can accommodate the British GP in 2023

[Grand Central]

Very poor weekend for Kelvin, I'd say.

[arnieg]

30 minutes ago, Grand Central said:

Very poor weekend for Kelvin, I'd say.

For all of us I'd say.

[MD]

4 hours ago, secsy1 said:

Only one who uttered an ounce of credibility was Jason Crump when he said seen worse tracks but just got on with it.

Crump was the biggest moaner known to man on the GP circuit in his era. He was endlessly at Ole Olsen to have tracks ultra slick to suit him and him only, and always had to have the loudest voice. No way would he have ridden that track 15 years ago, he would have lead a rider walkout or tried to. Amazing how he sees himself now with that comment.

[Lord Skid]

Tatum was way above Crump when it came to moaning about track conditions, the passing of time alters people's memories.

[uk_martin]

 

[Grachan]

It's not the commentators that are the problem. Sure, we miss a true professional like Nigel was, but Kelvin and Chris can just about pull it off.

The problem is the lack of presentation between heats. With Sky and BT we had a studio to cut to, and some for of discussion to break up the programme a bit. This is what is now lacking, and we are missing someone like Natalie in the studio.

What is the worst thing about speedway? It's the tractor going round between races. What do we see on dear old Eurosport? We see the tractor going round, and Kelvin and Chris desperately trying to keep things going - sometimes, as was the case on Saturday, for long periods.

When you are at the stadium, you can kill the time as you are part of an event. On the telly, it needs something else to keep the program going.

This is Eurosport I'm afraid. It's just not in the same league as Sky and BT and it never has been.

[ray c]

2 hours ago, Grachan said:

It's not the commentators that are the problem. Sure, we miss a true professional like Nigel was, but Kelvin and Chris can just about pull it off.

The problem is the lack of presentation between heats. With Sky and BT we had a studio to cut to, and some for of discussion to break up the programme a bit. This is what is now lacking, and we are missing someone like Natalie in the studio.

What is the worst thing about speedway? It's the tractor going round between races. What do we see on dear old Eurosport? We see the tractor going round, and Kelvin and Chris desperately trying to keep things going - sometimes, as was the case on Saturday, for long periods.

When you are at the stadium, you can kill the time as you are part of an event. On the telly, it needs something else to keep the program going.

This is Eurosport I'm afraid. It's just not in the same league as Sky and BT and it never has been.

scott and natalie where a good team in the studio and nigel and kelvin on commentary .like eurosport is poor on that front 

[mikebv]

6 hours ago, ray c said:

scott and natalie where a good team in the studio and nigel and kelvin on commentary .like eurosport is poor on that front 

But it's a "new era" for the sport..

Or should that read "error"? 

Eurosport doing what Eurosport does..

[OGT]

On 8/14/2022 at 5:19 PM, keepturningleft said:

Maybe Kelv and co are instructed by their paymasters to keep comments positive.

Boris Johnston will be out of a job soon and he is a Britains biggest habitual lier. Get him signed up!

I think by the time he'd bumbled through the heat line up, the race would be over! 

[FAST GATER]

IMO I think Kelv and Chris  are doing an outstanding job they have already started to form a great partnership ( they are not Kelv and Nigel) which under the circumstances is a credit to them .I think Kelv is an excellent choice in that he is extremely articulate and a former rider who had a long and successful career  ,Chris too has impessed me with his backup comments and different points of view .I think Scotty is a great addition for multitude of reasons not least as he is still riding and a has a lifetime of experience  to backup his input ,i think from a commentary point of view the sport is in very good hands.      

Edited August 19, 2022 by FAST GATER