Ghosty Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said: Dave I may be wrong but when I & jacki Campbell were having a meeting well sort of in the winter months when he took it on his plans were decent but unfortunately COVID struck which basically crippled his plans & I'm not saying that he would have been good or bad for the diamonds ( which in the end ) turned out to be bad but at the end of the day he should have suspended it until at least 2024 saved some money up & went quietly about his business & bought a plot of land to build a new venue & we would probably still have a team to support now I'm sure Rob Grant lost a load of dosh in his attempt running Newcastle but he did step forward & give it a go, so you must give him some credit. Was he up to the job? probably not, did he get much or any help from the BSPL probably not. Should he have been given permission to run Newcastle speedway by the BSPL? Overall I think Rob Grant is the biggest loser in all this & it's now time to move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Ghosty said: I'm sure Rob Grant lost a load of dosh in his attempt running Newcastle but he did step forward & give it a go, so you must give him some credit. Was he up to the job? probably not, did he get much or any help from the BSPL probably not. Should he have been given permission to run Newcastle speedway by the BSPL? Overall I think Rob Grant is the biggest loser in all this & it's now time to move on. Biggest loser in terms of biggest idiot then yes I agree. Credit for 1st season, no credit for 2nd season. Communication zero, and not willing to ask for help. The people who have lost the most in all this is us, the fans, not him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 19 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Dave,,, have you been eating lemons? No, just telling the truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Ghosty said: I'm sure Rob Grant lost a load of dosh in his attempt running Newcastle but he did step forward & give it a go, so you must give him some credit. Was he up to the job? probably not, did he get much or any help from the BSPL probably not. Should he have been given permission to run Newcastle speedway by the BSPL? Overall I think Rob Grant is the biggest loser in all this & it's now time to move on. There are some who believe he didn't lose that much after all. Given the profits from the catering, and plus the begging bowl (twice), it would have lessened the amount to an acceptable level to put through his business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gaz said: Biggest loser in terms of biggest idiot then yes I agree. Credit for 1st season, no credit for 2nd season. Communication zero, and not willing to ask for help. The people who have lost the most in all this is us, the fans, not him! 12 minutes ago, Tsunami said: No, just telling the truth. Well maybe someone else needs too/should've took the bull by the horns? (Pardon the pun). Personally am inclined to agree with Ghosty. Edited November 19, 2022 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 20 hours ago, Tsunami said: Yes but he didn't do a good job did he ? He has very good at selling burgers/chips but, with his restricted investment in the team, even his food income dwindled dramatically and the usual queues quickly disappeared. Took us for mugs and both years he thought we would support any crap that he put on the track for the Diamonds. Now lords it big at Berwick wearing his Diamonds jacket. Oh the irony. I would say he didn't do the best of jobs (I would say he was stitched up by the previous owners as well). Would probably have been given wrong finance figures from them (due to not bothering to pay the VAT). Also losing sponsorship and season ticket money wouldn't have helped. Did this hinder the team Newcastle put out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said: Well maybe someone else needs too/should've took the bull by the horns? (Pardon the pun). Personally am inclined to agree with Ghosty. The trouble was Granty wanted to do it his way or no way and would not take any help apart from the begging bowl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scampispeedway Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) Steve, is it not in the rules now after Terry Stone opened Newport Speedway on his own and things were left in a mess when died suddenly, to safe guard this happening again, there must now be at least one other promoter who holds a Promoters Iicence named as Joint Promoter. This ensures that if something happens to one of them, there is always a backup Promoter to carry on with general running of the club.. Edited November 19, 2022 by scampispeedway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, scampispeedway said: Steve, is it not in the rules now after Terry Stone opened Newport Speedway on his own and things were left in a mess when died suddenly, to safe guard this happening again, there must now be at least one other promoter who holds a Promoters Iicence named as Joint Promoter. This ensures that if something happens to one of them, there is always a backup Promoter to carry on with general running of the club.. I'm assuming this is for me (!), so here goes. Yes you are correct, you must have two promoters, in case something happens to one of them, so that the Tim Stone scenario didn't happen again. Granty had to have an experienced promoter alongside him when he took over and Dave Tattum came on board. When Dave became ill, I believe Neil Machin stepped in to help Rob out in that respect (but I could be wrong on this). Of course he (RG) later added Steve Pate and Dave Tinning to the promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 hours ago, StevePark said: I'm assuming this is for me (!), so here goes. Yes you are correct, you must have two promoters, in case something happens to one of them, so that the Tim Stone scenario didn't happen again. Granty had to have an experienced promoter alongside him when he took over and Dave Tattum came on board. When Dave became ill, I believe Neil Machin stepped in to help Rob out in that respect (but I could be wrong on this). Of course he (RG) later added Steve Pate and Dave Tinning to the promotion. Was that just on paper to make it easier for him, and are you sure they both went through the required interview and investigation for new appointees. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Was that just on paper to make it easier for him, and are you sure they both went through the required interview and investigation for new appointees. ? Bliddy Hell Dave, its not flippin crimewatch!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Bliddy Hell Dave, its not flippin crimewatch!!! It speedway Promoters though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scampispeedway Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 StevePark, my original reply did include your full name and I'm sorry about deleting your surname, I did make another mistake in calling Tim Stone Terry but I was thinking without checking about the former Rayleigh Rider who was riding when I started watching speedway in the 60's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Bliddy Hell Dave, its not flippin crimewatch!!! I know, but they are the rules of speedway and Grant will have had to follow the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It speedway Promoters though. 6 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I know, but they are the rules of speedway and Grant will have had to follow the rules. Hmmm,,, could be something in there? 'Rules is Rules' a suppose? Edited November 20, 2022 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Was that just on paper to make it easier for him, and are you sure they both went through the required interview and investigation for new appointees. ? ALL prospective Promoters have to go through the interview process and I'm pretty sure that both Steve and Dave went through the same process as everyone else who wanted to become a promoter, but, I'm sure you are well aware of this anyway. Edited November 20, 2022 by StevePark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, StevePark said: ALL prospective Promoters have to go through the interview process and I'm pretty sure that both Steve and Dave went through the same process as everyone else who wanted to become a promoter, but, I'm sure were are well aware of this anyway. Yes but I never knew or heard if they had or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tsunami said: Was that just on paper to make it easier for him, and are you sure they both went through the required interview and investigation for new appointees. ? Debatable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Yes but I never knew or heard if they had or not. Am sure know about the 'inner circle' Dave,,, maybe you were put in the 'ever decreasing circles' section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Am sure know about the 'inner circle' Dave,,, maybe you were put in the 'ever decreasing circles' section? I was never in it when and after Grant bought the club. We never spoke and youth training was never discussed hence why we almost lost the will to encourage the youngsters. He certainly left a legacy though. Edited November 20, 2022 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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