Brummies v Bandits 10/08

[Bandit59]

2 hours ago, screm said:

You can add Ricky Wells to that as riders who regularly under achieve in away meetings, just an extra point or two from these riders in meetings like last night would make a difference. 

Correct been like that all season.

[Spittaler]

8 hours ago, Normski said:

how many meetings does a rider have to do nowadays to get an average

I not certain but think only league counts in averages 

Could be 6 or 8   If 8 don't think even if riding he would have got averaged

[arnieg]

7 minutes ago, Spittaler said:

I not certain but think only league counts in averages 

Could be 6 or 8   If 8 don't think even if riding he would have got averaged

Only regular league matches

6 (3 home, 3 away) for Prem

But

8 for Champ (home/away minimum no longer in rule book)

[NeilWatson]

8 hours ago, Normski said:

how many meetings does a rider have to do nowadays to get an average

 

8 minutes ago, Spittaler said:

I not certain but think only league counts in averages 

Could be 6 or 8   If 8 don't think even if riding he would have got averaged

010.2 MATCH AVERAGES (MAs)
010.2.1 Established MA’s
Are calculated, up to and including the cut-off date for a specified number of applicable meetings. Taking account of the number of heats and points (excluding bonus points) that a rider has scored.
The applicable meetings are: -
• Premiership League Table meetings
• Championship League Table meetings
• National Development League League Table meetings
Semi-Finals, Finals and Play Offs are not included.
Speedway Control Bureau Regulations
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Riders appearing as a Guest or as a #8 are ignored (Premiership & Championship only). The BSPA are responsible for the calculation, production and circulation of rider’s MA’s.
At the end of each season the BSPA will produce a listing of all riders who have completed in British Speedway during that season and following approval and/or amendment at their AGM. The MA’s, excluding bonus points but including other allowances will be the riders MA for the following season.
These MA’s will remain affective for team building, team positioning, facilities, rider eligibility for heat 15 until new MA’s become effective.
Updated MA’s will be calculated monthly on a rolling basis on all eligible meetings, up to and including 23rd of the month, to become effective from the 1st of the following month.
A Premiership Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 3 home and 3 away qualifying fixtures.
A Championship Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 8 qualifying fixtures.
Should an Established MA not be achieved to be effective from 1st May, then the BSPA Directors may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the team re-declares.
The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league.
NDL established MA’s are issued when a rider completes 4 NDL meetings, irrespective of whether home or away. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting.
A NDL rider, who is not in a NDL, ‘League’ Team Declaration will be given an Established MA after completing 4 meetings, irrespective of being home or away in any official team competition.
Speedway Control Bureau Regulations
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010.2.2 Assessed MA’s
Given to riders who: -
a) are new to British Speedway or are without an established MA
b) fails to achieve an established (or converted) MA below the 2.00 minimum
c) have to apply for a new CoS due to transferring from the Premiership to Championship if the riders established MA is below the minimum required as a new entrant
Assessed rider gradings are calculated as follows: -
Riders new to Premiership League racing are categorised as follows: -
a) a rider riding in a professional league in the previous or current season will be assessed on a Grading List. Based upon results obtained in all other professional Speedway leagues and given an Assessed MA accordingly
Riders new to Championship League racing are categorised as follows: -
a) a rider riding in Danish, Swedish or Polish Leagues in a previous or current season will enter on a 5.00 MA
b) a rider who has never ridden in a Danish, Swedish or Polish league will enter on a 4.00 MA
c) a new rider who is eligible to participate in the NDL will enter on a 2.00 MA
No rider with a current or previously assessed MA, other than a rider who has never achieved an MA in a professional league, can drop below 4.00 at any time during the season.
010.2.3 Amended MA’s
With the approval of the BSPA GC or Directors for: -
a) riders who have been absent from British Speedway racing for more than 3 seasons (The MA may be increased or decreased)
b) riders who have been absent for more than 1 full season due to injury
c) any rider who has been or is eligible to compete in the NDL (and has not represented another FMN, other than the ACU) will receive 2.5% reduction on their MA
Speedway Control Bureau Regulations
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d) a rider who moves between the Premiership and Championship leagues and requires a converted MA. The conversion factor will be 1.5

[arnieg]

8 hours ago, MD said:

What date did Berwick actually apply for the visa is more to the point. They can only trundle out the current visa narrative for so long, its become tiresome. Why not come out and say we are protecting Knudsens average for 2023 and be done with it.

When JK signed for Berwick they had 9 matches (that count) left. But Jonas would have been absent for two of them (last night and clash with Wroclaw GP2) so barring rearrangements would never have ridden 8 matches.

[Gazc]

11 hours ago, MD said:

What date did Berwick actually apply for the visa is more to the point. They can only trundle out the current visa narrative for so long, its become tiresome. Why not come out and say we are protecting Knudsens average for 2023 and be done with it.

We are protecting Knudsens average for Glasgow for 2023.

Fixed that for you.

[MD]

24 minutes ago, Gazc said:

We are protecting Knudsens average for Glasgow for 2023.

Fixed that for you.

Perfectly, chequebook recruitment is best!

[Fromafar]

6 minutes ago, MD said:

Perfectly, chequebook recruitment is best!

 

6 minutes ago, MD said:

Perfectly, chequebook recruitment is best!

Looking at the scores in Denmark last night it’s his Brother you should be after.!!

[Col]

Not the best advert for Speedway this, can only think of a few actual passes.  Both Brummies reserves went either side of one of Berwick reserves exiting turn 2 in the second heat, Harris passed both Brummies when on a TS and Thomson sneaked under Flint or Etheridge in the following heat when whichever Bandit it was made a mistake.  Complin & Flint gave it a go at passing but just couldn't find a way through.  Was getting very dusty when we left after heat 14.

[*JJ]

Some people are never happy ... as for the dust, what did you expect, given the temperatures? And why did you leave after heat 14? Annoyed that the Brummies were winning easily?

[uk_martin]

On 8/10/2022 at 10:43 PM, MD said:

They can only trundle out the current visa narrative for so long

Don't you believe it. In Post Brexit Britain, just watch how creative with their visa related excused promoters are going to get. And for as long as the BSPZzz allow "facilities" for riders who are "victims" of "visa delays" the more farcical the situation will become.

[Col]

9 hours ago, *JJ said:

Some people are never happy ... as for the dust, what did you expect, given the temperatures? And why did you leave after heat 14? Annoyed that the Brummies were winning easily?

Never any dust at the NSS, which is what I'm accustomed to. Berwick were disappointing considering they needed a win to keep their slim playoff hopes alive.

We left after heat 14 because we'd had enough, early start in the morning and if the traffic lights at the Scott Arms junction were still out  as they were on the way it would have taken an age to get home.  Thankfully the lights were working.

I understand why the promotion get kids involved in stuff on the centre green but it's hardly a compelling 15-20 minutes for others I'm the stadium.

[Pirio Barre]

16 minutes ago, Col said:

Never any dust at the NSS

 After the British Final you post this 

[Speedway fan]

On 8/12/2022 at 6:56 PM, Col said:

Never any dust at the NSS, which is what I'm accustomed to. Berwick were disappointing considering they needed a win to keep their slim playoff hopes alive.

We left after heat 14 because we'd had enough, early start in the morning and if the traffic lights at the Scott Arms junction were still out  as they were on the way it would have taken an age to get home.  Thankfully the lights were working.

I understand why the promotion get kids involved in stuff on the centre green but it's hardly a compelling 15-20 minutes for others I'm the stadium.

the interval is normally 10 minutes. With the heat more track work and watering was needed so an extra few minutes was allowed --- not 20 mins of interval .