Ghosty Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 hours ago, HGould said: They really need to make the full findings public. That answers the questions with facts. They probably won't and that does the Sport no good. Plenty of issues in the past that have either been swept under the carpet and in to the long grass, or penalties reported but no full explanation. Agree the facts of this case need to be known by other riders to avoid a similar situation arising. Also why has this taken so long to sort out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Once again the BSPA has created a PR disaster for British Speedway. Secrecy over such serious matters is not acceptable. What sort of role models are they creating when findings of riders "taking banned substances" are not made public. The decisions on punishments seem entirely arbitrary...... surely bans should be stipulated for a number of fixtures rather than some timeframe over the close season? I cannot help but recall an English International rider who was banned for a season for merely riding around a lap the wrong way. Seems drug offences in Speedway are viewed much more lightly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Once again the BSPA has created a PR disaster for British Speedway. Secrecy over such serious matters is not acceptable. What sort of role models are they creating when findings of riders "taking banned substances" are not made public. The decisions on punishments seem entirely arbitrary...... surely bans should be stipulated for a number of fixtures rather than some timeframe over the close season? I cannot help but recall an English International rider who was banned for a season for merely riding around a lap the wrong way. Seems drug offences in Speedway are viewed much more lightly. Nothing to do with the BSPA ROLE OF THE SCB Formed originally in 1948, under the authority of the RAC (Royal Automobile Club) the SCB was known as the Speedway Control Board, a title that stood until 2003. At that time, the RAC, through it’s subsidiary, the Motor Sports Association (MSA) relinquished their involvement and the Auto-Cycle Union, which was formed in 1903 had the sole responsibility in Great Britain for 2-wheeled motor sport. Subsequently the SCB was re-named as the Speedway Control Bureau and is authorised by the Auto Cycle Union to act as the recognised Governing Body for Speedway racing in Great Britain. Accordingly, each season the SCB produces a Rule Book entitled The Speedway Regulations, that covers all the rules applicable to the sport in Great Britain. It is available in booklet form at a small cost from the SCB Office or as a fre download from the SCB Website www.scbgb.co.uk Financed entirely by fees generated through the issue of Track Licences, Rider Registrations and Officials Licences the SCB seeks to act as the independent body to ensure that the BSPA, Member’s Tracks, Riders and Officials all act within the Rules and Regulations of the SCB and most importantly within the best interest of Speedway motorcycle racing. The SCB is managed on a day to day basis by the SCB Co-ordinator (Neil Vatcher: neil@scbgb.co.uk) and an Administrator (info@scbgb.co.uk). They are augmented in specialist areas by Track Inspectors (Alan Bridgett: alan@scbgb.co.uk & Mick Bates: mick@scbgb.co.uk), Track Curator Advisors (Terry Chrabaszcz : terrytrack@hotmail.co.uk & Andy Meredith : andym.amsa@gmail.com) and Technical Advisors (Ron Jones: jap4b@tiscali.co.uk & Jim McGregor: james.mcgregor10@outlook.com) Further specialist advice concerning Medical and Environmental matters are obtained via the ACU Committees; Environmental Advisor (Peter Gregory: pgregory@ntlworld.com), Medical Panel Secretary (Debbie Walmsley: dw@acu.org.uk) The Bureau consists of 4 nominated Members, two representing the ACU are Tony Steele and Paul Hurry (ACU Members) whilst Rob Godfrey (BSPA Chairman) and Chris van Straaten (BSPA Promoter) represent the British Speedway Promoters Association under the independent Chairmanship of Jim Lawrence (a former speedway Referee). Edited September 9, 2022 by racers and royals 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Once again the Speedway Control Bureau (SCB) have created a PR disaster for British Speedway. Secrecy over such serious matters is not acceptable. What sort of role models are they creating when findings of riders "taking banned substances" are not made public. The decisions on punishments seem entirely arbitrary...... surely bans should be stipulated for a number of fixtures rather than some timeframe over the close season? I cannot help but recall an English International rider who was banned for a season for merely riding around a lap the wrong way. Seems drug offences in Speedway are viewed much more lightly. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Once again the Speedway Control Bureau (SCB) have created a PR disaster for British Speedway. Secrecy over such serious matters is not acceptable. What sort of role models are they creating when findings of riders "taking banned substances" are not made public. The decisions on punishments seem entirely arbitrary...... surely bans should be stipulated for a number of fixtures rather than some timeframe over the close season? I cannot help but recall an English International rider who was banned for a season for merely riding around a lap the wrong way. Seems drug offences in Speedway are viewed much more lightly. As you seem concerned by several aspects of this case, why don`t you send a polite email to the chairman outlining your views SCB Chairman Jim Lawrence Email: Jl15@btinternet.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I do think that the exact nature of the offence and the determination of the punishment are of legitimate public interest. Edit: On reflection, there could be medical reasons as to why some of the details are confidential. An individual's medical condition and prescribed medication are not for public consumption. Edited September 9, 2022 by False dawn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Thanks for the info " Racers and Royals" . If nothing else it would be interesting to see if I even receive a reply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 15 hours ago, False dawn said: I do think that the exact nature of the offence and the determination of the punishment are of legitimate public interest. Edit: On reflection, there could be medical reasons as to why some of the details are confidential. An individual's medical condition and prescribed medication are not for public consumption. Clearly only for private and personal consumption!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 It would be good to know the details, as it would help me decide whether I "Boo him" or "LOUDLY boo" him the next time I see him ride!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Lefty said: It would be good to know the details, as it would help me decide whether I "Boo him" or "LOUDLY boo" him the next time I see him ride!!! He has to be running out of Clubs he has let down for various reasons.Who will be the next one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) Having no knowledge of drug taking in speedway, isn't it under the jurisdiction of the UK Anti Doping Agency, doesn't seem right that it's policed by its own governing body. Edited September 10, 2022 by Lord Skid Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 5:23 PM, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Ok i'll say it.... So what was the banned substance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 I heard it’s his mate Charlie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 11, 2022 Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 17 hours ago, Lord Skid said: Having no knowledge of drug taking in speedway, isn't it under the jurisdiction of the UK Anti Doping Agency, doesn't seem right that it's policed by its own governing body. The process of random testing is indeed carried out independently. The results of the a and b tests are then provided to the SCB/ACU who decide on the penalty after a hearing with the culprit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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