lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: In later news, its reported that Stevie blew his engine on the start line! Hopefully the £500 donation given to him by R.E.F. on Wednesday will help his expenses. Oh right, so he did blow an engine . Good on the R.E.F for helping him out Thought he had blown an engine, tad confused with the cut out report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, baiden said: Redcar smashed Poole 7-2 just three heats earlier (off the same gates), yet you could only see a Pirates win in the final before Worrall didn't get off the start. Classic deluded Poole fan! Newsflash - it would have been exactly the same result. See Jamie Courtney & crew av the sorted the dust out from my visit earlier in the season when it was totally unacceptable! Loads of water down, so much so they were big puddles of it. When things are unacceptable it's great when the promotion listen as no doubt others made a more direct complaint. Ok a little dusty towards the end but just within acceptable limits. Even Jamie himself mentioned that so it didn't go without notice which is great to hear. Thankfully @baiden you're not the promoter because the night Poole first visited u would've done nothing about it as u deemed it acceptable. Thank you Mr Courtney & all at Oxford for a fantastic evening down Sandy Lane. Edited August 13, 2022 by Turnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiden Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turnip said: See Jaime Courtney & crew av the sorted the dust out from my visit earlier in the season when it was totally unacceptable! Loads of water down, so much so they were big puddles of it. When things are unacceptable it's great when the promotion listen as no doubt others made a more direct complaint. Ok a little dusty towards the end but just within acceptable limits. Even Jaime himself mentioned that so it didn't go without notice which is great to hear. Thankfully you're not the promoter because the night Poole first visited u would've done nothing about it as u deemed it acceptable. Thank you Mr Courtney & all at Oxford for a fantastic evening down Sandy Lane. Yawn! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, baiden said: Yawn! I may av lost the earlier battle but I won the war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiden Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Turnip said: I may av lost the earlier battle but I won the war! Let’s call it a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, baiden said: Let’s call it a draw. Ok, that means u get 1 point & I get 2 points 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 I seem to be in the minority but one day there'll be carnage with this scoring system. I'm all for team riding but slowing these bikes down is asking for trouble. Also the final was a farce however if it was normal scoring with a 3-3 going to the team who wins the heat Danny King could have won the heat giving the title to Poole whereas last night was pointless once Steve Worrall was out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Turnip said: Ok, that means u get 1 point & I get 2 points Best end to differing point of view ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bruno said: I seem to be in the minority but one day there'll be carnage with this scoring system. I'm all for team riding but slowing these bikes down is asking for trouble. Also the final was a farce however if it was normal scoring with a 3-3 going to the team who wins the heat Danny King could have won the heat giving the title to Poole whereas last night was pointless once Steve Worrall was out Yep me thinks I know why u may be in a minority. How can the best pair be the one that finishes first & last. That ain't riding as a pair especially the last place if that is thru ef or exclusion. The art of team riding is something we need to see more of as it was back in the day. In the pairs 4-3-2-0 is the best way even if it means slowing a race down. That happens in league racing anyway with the traditional scoring system. In general tho u do av a point I think if ur saying the bikes are too fast/aggressive.....one bit of grip & away u go into orbit! Zaine Kennedy's recent accident was horrendous! Edited August 13, 2022 by Turnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, bruno said: I seem to be in the minority but one day there'll be carnage with this scoring system. I'm all for team riding but slowing these bikes down is asking for trouble. Also the final was a farce however if it was normal scoring with a 3-3 going to the team who wins the heat Danny King could have won the heat giving the title to Poole whereas last night was pointless once Steve Worrall was out Agree with second bit. I've seen it done in normal league meetings without it being dangerous. Actually Scott Nicholls did a very good one on Lindback at Poole (was a while ago now), was never dangerous or felt like they were going to crash. And guess what? He didn't get excluded for it and won Coventry the meeting. But both riders need to be clued up what is happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Agree with second bit. I've seen it done in normal league meetings without it being dangerous. Actually Scott Nicholls did a very good one on Lindback at Poole (was a while ago now), was never dangerous or felt like they were going to crash. And guess what? He didn't get excluded for it and won Coventry the meeting. But both riders need to be clued up what is happening. I know Lisa but these bikes are so unpredictable. I can just see a bad smash happening one day and then it'll be why did we allow this. I just think the clues in the name, speedway racing. I think back in the day before we had rocket ships it may have not been so dangerous. Each to there own tho, hopefully il never be proved right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Turnip said: Yep me thinks I know why u may be in a minority. How can the best pair be the one that finishes first & last. That ain't riding as a pair especially the last place if that is thru ef or exclusion. The art of team riding is something we need to see more of as it was back in the day. In the pairs 4-3-2-0 is the best way even if it means slowing a race down. That happens in league racing anyway with the traditional scoring system. In general tho u do av a point I think if ur saying the bikes are too fast/aggressive.....one bit of grip & away u go into orbit! Zaine Kennedy's recent accident was horrendous! I get what your saying but team riding doesn't mean slowing riders down causing a dangerous situation. Each to there own tho. Also , I actually think first and fourth is better than second and third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, bruno said: I get what your saying but team riding doesn't mean slowing riders down causing a dangerous situation. Each to there own tho. Also , I actually think first and fourth is better than second and third How about we go back to the 3/2/1 scoring but ifvits a 3-3 there is bonus point PROVIDED there are four finishers unless theres has been an exclusion and if you score a 5-1 you get a bonus point . Going by this scoring last night would have looked like this: Leicester 18+4 Edinburgh 9+2 Glasgow 15+1 Scunthorpe 10+1 Birmingham 8 Poole 15+2 Plymouth 4 Berwick 15+3 Oxford 8+1 Redcar 16+ 3 The only difference wold have been Berwick qualifying for the semi-final ahead of Poole courtesy of an extra bonus point. Edited August 13, 2022 by cinderfella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, bruno said: I get what your saying but team riding doesn't mean slowing riders down causing a dangerous situation. Each to there own tho. Also , I actually think first and fourth is better than second and third I used to go to Cradley a lot in the 80's and all the Heathens knew how to team ride. Team riding doesn't mean u av to slow the race down but when ur with a slower rider the art is to sit behind them & to slow the opponent''s down. The throttle goes 2 ways and providing riders don't go chasing back wheels, which is dangerous, then the racing is as safe as it possibly can be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Only cos he isn't good at it. Age nothing to do with it as I remember a really good rider who was very good at team riding at 18 as he knew how important it was. Basso similar to Nicki P, don't remember him team riding much either. Maybe they just don't teach it much in Denmark. I very much think its linked to age and experience personally, there will be the odd younger rider who can do (Darcy at 16) it but generally it's the far more experienced riders who excel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, cinderfella said: How about we go back to the 3/2/1 scoring but ifvits a 3-3 there is bonus point PROVIDED there are four finishers unless theres has been an exclusion and if you score a 5-1 you get a bonus point . Going by this scoring last night would have looked like this: Leicester 18+4 Edinburgh 9+2 Glasgow 15+1 Scunthorpe 10+1 Birmingham 8 Poole 15+2 Plymouth 4 Berwick 15+3 Oxford 8+1 Redcar 16+ 3 The only difference wold have been Berwick qualifying for the semi-final ahead of Poole courtesy of an extra bonus point. Yep u knocked us Pirates out so knickers to that idea! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I very much think its linked to age and experience personally, there will be the odd younger rider who can do (Darcy at 16) it but generally it's the far more experienced riders who excel. Also Basso's mindset is to go as fast as he can. Prob why some crazy moments on track this season. Someone gonna have to tell him not to do that at Plymouth, otherwise there will be carnage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turnip said: Yep u knocked us Pirates out so knickers to that idea! Prob why it was suggested! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, lisa-colette said: Also Basso's mindset is to go as fast as he can. Prob why some crazy moments on track this season. Someone gonna have to tell him not to do that at Plymouth, otherwise there will be carnage. Your obsessed with Basso,bottom line is he is a talent and very entertaining.Let him get on with it , he doesn’t even ride for your Team.Fans pay money to watch riders like him. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Your obsessed with Basso,bottom line is he is a talent and very entertaining.Let him get on with it , he doesn’t even ride for your Team.Fans pay money to watch riders like him. Had to laugh as one of the stadium announcers kept referring to him as Bass-whoooo! That is how he pronounced it, we kept hearing "Benjamin Bass-whoooo" all night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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