mikebv Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, HGould said: Take Bewley off the top and Flint/Brennan off the bottom and frankly and not being disrespectful its a DIRE situation when you look at the ages, profile of the bulk of the field. Whilst Lambert and Bewley have flown the nest and we wait for the likes of Flint, Brennan, Kemp, Palin, Thompsons, Edwards etc to find their feet and ultimate level (and as the years go by what will that level be?) its boringly average by Global standards. What we really need is a European outlet for the Palins , Brennans , Edwards , Kemps but with Sweden in equally sorry state as us and Denmark not really fitting due to Wednesday racing it's a tough transition even to the bottom (3rd tier) in Poland, where our best younger riders get to feed off the scraps and tough to make a foothold. So who is the next rising 30 or even 40 year old to take a Crown that used to be the domain of genuinely world class riders? Same could be said for Australia Sweden and Denmark's current situation.. None have too many outstanding youngsters coming through to usurp the old guard.. Some of the UK lads are getting exposure in the Polish U24 league which will help them hugely given how much importance and investment the Poles have given it.. The British Final should be a good meeting with many of the riders being of a similar level... Not a "top class" level granted, but a decent one... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: I don't have any problem with that line-up at all. Should be a very competitive meeting throughout as a British Final. The only problem is that Bewley apart, (because he's already a GP rider) the Cardiff Wildcard is gonna be extremely embarrassed. Controversial opinion, I'd rather the Wildcard for Cardiff was a foreigner. Only if other countries did the same. If Poland can have 3 x Polish wildcards, only fair for GB to get one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Only if other countries did the same. If Poland can have 3 x Polish wildcards, only fair for GB to get one. It's happened before. Darcy Ward was Wildcard in a Polish round wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Only if other countries did the same. If Poland can have 3 x Polish wildcards, only fair for GB to get one. 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's happened before. Darcy Ward was Wildcard in a Polish round wasn't he? Indeed, it makes more sense for riders without a home GP round (Australia, USA) to get wildcards in countries with more than one round like Poland, than GB who only have one round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 When a rider of the calibre of Jeremy Doncaster never won this title is shows you the quality of the field back in the day. Still can’t believe he never won one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Shame it isnt on a Friday or Saturday night.. 3000 crowd I would think guaranteed on either of those nights, regardless of live TV... Must be a Friday when all the Polish lads are available, one where Dan rides on the Sunday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 11:02 AM, Lefty said: Haven't done a British Final for years. Do they still have the nerve to put the admission price up and stuff two quid on the proggy for four extra pages? The price for the tickets is competitively priced family tickets £60 (2adults and 2kids) which is pretty decent. Although the price of a train from London is over £300 return even with an advance booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, Hackett said: The price for the tickets is competitively priced family tickets £60 (2adults and 2kids) which is pretty decent. Although the price of a train from London is over £300 return even with an advance booking. £60 quid family ticket competitively priced? Really? I would suggest £40 nearer the mark to get a family of four there.. £20 each the adults and free for the kids... You are looking at circa £35 tops for the movies or ten pin bowling on a Monday night for a family of four... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Could do a whole day's racing at British superbikes at Brands for only 6 quid more for a family of 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessexbobcat Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 Pointless meeting nowadays.Doesn’t mean anything and the top Brits can’t be bothered to ride ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 6:49 PM, mikebv said: Shame it isnt on a Friday or Saturday night.. 3000 crowd I would think guaranteed on either of those nights, regardless of live TV... Must be a Friday when all the Polish lads are available, one where Dan rides on the Sunday? We must remember that the powers that be run meetings for the benefit of a few riders and not the fee paying public who are basically given what is on offer on a take it or leave basis. Shame that the promoters show so little regard for those who turn out to watch what is sometimes dross and treat them which such contempt. I agree, if this was held on a Friday or Saturday more supporters would travel as they do to the GPs and surely the host stadium would make more money. Says it all when I think it was Tungate who was recently in the Star bemoaning the way speedway was run in this country because it did not suit the overseas riders who would coming flocking back if it changed. U K speedway can neither afford or should give in to rider demands and should plough its own furrow starting by allowing clubs to race on days that suit the business not the rider. Clubs should sign riders who want to commit to British speedway and not want to ride simply to top up the coffers when they have a lull in Poland or elsewhere. Sadly nothing will change and in a few years it will be into single figures the tracks left running and they will only survive if riders are part time and have jobs elsewhere. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: We must remember that the powers that be run meetings for the benefit of a few riders and not the fee paying public who are basically given what is on offer on a take it or leave basis. Shame that the promoters show so little regard for those who turn out to watch what is sometimes dross and treat them which such contempt. I agree, if this was held on a Friday or Saturday more supporters would travel as they do to the GPs and surely the host stadium would make more money. Says it all when I think it was Tungate who was recently in the Star bemoaning the way speedway was run in this country because it did not suit the overseas riders who would coming flocking back if it changed. U K speedway can neither afford or should give in to rider demands and should plough its own furrow starting by allowing clubs to race on days that suit the business not the rider. Clubs should sign riders who want to commit to British speedway and not want to ride simply to top up the coffers when they have a lull in Poland or elsewhere. Sadly nothing will change and in a few years it will be into single figures the tracks left running and they will only survive if riders are part time and have jobs elsewhere. 100%... But. Dont forget Promoters love being associated with the "better riders" so will do whatever is needed to accommodate them.. As winning any of the leagues "really means something" doesnt it? Hence Div 2 clogs up a clear development pathway from Div 3 by using so many Div 1 HL's and SS's... And with only six teams in Div 1 then the tail will always wag the dog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Trouble is this dogs got more than one tail 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 6:37 PM, Arch Stanton said: When a rider of the calibre of Jeremy Doncaster never won this title is shows you the quality of the field back in the day. Still can’t believe he never won one! Add Nigel Boocock to that list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiden Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Midland Red said: Add Nigel Boocock to that list! Yeah, great shout, although he would have won a bunch of them if it wasn't for the New Zealanders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Nige Booey runner-up 3 times to Briggs and Mauger. Peter Craven was only Brit to win it, twice, in first 12 years, 60-72. Briggo 6 wins, Mauger 4. Surprised Lee Richardson never won it, and looks like Screeny most runners-up positions. Scotty still most wins of all-time, 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Cant see Cookie being fit for the meeting after the crash on Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 still think it will be a better meeting than speedway of nations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 9:15 PM, topaz325 said: Cant see Cookie being fit for the meeting after the crash on Friday night. Mountain confirmed at #1, with Kemp and Simon Lambert now the reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Joker Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 All eyes to the sky after 20.00 when according to the BBC weather app at the moment the chances of rain increase. Could be a meeting to rush through in the hope of getting a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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