4thbender Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, noaksey said: When I went to Owlerton for the Wolves match recently there were issues with the track early on which they had several goes at sorting out before an extended grade after heat 6 finally sorted it and it was fine thereafter and there was some excellent racing Perhaps Sheffield need to review their track prep Something painfully clear this season is that the Tigers' heat leader trio of Holder, Musielak and Ellis never score points in their first races, but come back fighting after about heat 5 or 6. It makes me wonder whether the track needs a few races to sort itself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Bash said: Chris Harris might have something to say about that Yeah well any rider in form and on a good average will get a lot of guest bookings. We all wonder why riders don't ride to their ability all the time but it does them no good, it is much better to have a bad spell, get your average down then reap the benefits later in the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, The SAINT said: absolutely spot on! * Owlerton is in the suburb of HILLSBOROUGH,since that tragedy both stadiums (on the same road) have been made to stick to ALL H&S aspects to the letter of the law,no room for manouvre or they're shut down! (other stadiums would not be able to function if they were in sheffield, it's a price both clubs have had to pay to this day and won't ever change. * the volunteer track workers do NOT have degrees in 'air fence engineering' they are unpaid ,hard working volunteers who do it to keep their club running * ruts in the track due to stock cars (who share the stadium with greyhounds also), the volunteers get about 6 hours a week to do all the prep work (usually wed. night) .speedway does not own the stadium and are probably last in the pecking order * housing estates are up the hill on the back straight *it was a complete one-off ... never seen curfew at owlerton before (what a time to choose)! Exactly. But the facts are not considered by Ipswich fans you can’t educate these carrot crunching numpties in Ipswich. We’ve done the double over them already this season and in the first meeting they were sniping cus jack holder was injured and missed riding at one of his non favourite tracks because of an injury in the GP 2 days before. This was Live on tv which they will have watched cus they are only armchair fans. Then last night blamed the air fence and time wasting for the defeat !!!! They need to grow up accept defeat Move on 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Damien Bates on lastnight's problem after Danny's crash, “But I can honestly, honestly tell you now it was such a rare, unique, freak incident, I’ve never seen it happen before and I’d be surprised if we see it again. “Where Danny and his bike hit the air fence on bend two, it burst a couple of bags. “But somehow, the angle everything has hit, it destroyed the inflatable tube which gets the air flowing between each bag. “Replacing an air bag is usually a ten minute job at most, but with this ‘air pathway’, if you like, damaged, it was a much more complicated job. “To add to the issue, it was the air bag that connects to the gate that opens and closes to let the tractors and ambulances out on bend two. “This is a slightly different type of air bag to the rest and has to be at a certain level to connect with the rest of the air fence. “Our track staff tried several things before having to come up with a makeshift solution on the spot – and had they not figured that out, the meeting would’ve had to be abandoned at that point, we wouldn’t have seen any more racing, we wouldn’t have got a result and everyone would’ve had to have left there and then and we’d have had to have all came back and do it all over again on another night." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Someone must have told you that fact If Kings Lynn rode in Poland i could understand you knowing. I've been to Poland a few times m8, notably Gorzow v Zielona Gora 9.8.15 where I sat with Gorzow fans and was shouting for Darcy Ward woooooo :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Trees said: I've been to Poland a few times m8, notably Gorzow v Zielona Gora 9.8.15 where I sat with Gorzow fans and was shouting for Darcy Ward woooooo :O And you weren`t converted after the Derby to end all derbies ??- there is very little hope for you i fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Whatever the rights and wrongs of the issues last night, one thing seems to have been completely overlooked RIDER SAFETY. ofcourse rider safety is the number 1 thing,but after 20 minutes messing around they finally stat using gaffer tape to repair the top of the fence,that IS NOT WHAT I CALL RIDER SAFETY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlieboy said: Exactly. But the facts are not considered by Ipswich fans you can’t educate these carrot crunching numpties in Ipswich. We’ve done the double over them already this season and in the first meeting they were sniping cus jack holder was injured and missed riding at one of his non favourite tracks because of an injury in the GP 2 days before. This was Live on tv which they will have watched cus they are only armchair fans. Then last night blamed the air fence and time wasting for the defeat !!!! They need to grow up accept defeat Move on I think you are the one who needs to be educated if all you can resort to is name calling. Bit like your manager blaming defeat in the pairs at Ipswich on having the wrong helmet colours on which upset the riders, not his riders choosing the wrong gate positions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlieboy said: Exactly. But the facts are not considered by Ipswich fans you can’t educate these carrot crunching numpties in Ipswich. We’ve done the double over them already this season and in the first meeting they were sniping cus jack holder was injured and missed riding at one of his non favourite tracks because of an injury in the GP 2 days before. This was Live on tv which they will have watched cus they are only armchair fans. Then last night blamed the air fence and time wasting for the defeat !!!! They need to grow up accept defeat Move on You sound about 5 years old tbf and you tell other people to grow up It was very embarrassing last night and Sheffield will just have to deal with that! With the curfew coming up, why wasn't the ref putting the 2 mins on as soon as riders entered the pits? Surely a bit of urgency was required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Whilst the sequence of events last night was unfortunate and unprecedented, there never seems to be a meeting or week goes by where something shambolic happens and this is why fans walk away or vent their frustration on here. Nobody seems to learn from each others mistakes and it's getting to the point of no return. And this is the sport overall and not just aimed at Sheffield!! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: You sound about 5 years old tbf and you tell other people to grow up It was very embarrassing last night and Sheffield will just have to deal with that! With the curfew coming up, why wasn't the ref putting the 2 mins on as soon as riders entered the pits? Surely a bit of urgency was required? If you read what our promotor has explained you should understand the problem that occurred last night. Total one off But if you have your own agenda that’s fine by me. I’d rather believe the truth than the bile that some Ipswich fans have put on the forum. Who weren’t even at the meeting but know what happened and how quickly it should have been fixed If you believe them then you must be quite gullible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Bash said: I think you are the one who needs to be educated if all you can resort to is name calling. Bit like your manager blaming defeat in the pairs at Ipswich on having the wrong helmet colours on which upset the riders, not his riders choosing the wrong gate positions. Don’t need educating mate. I knew last night after the meeting what the problem had been so to read the crap about track staff wasting time made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Suggest people go to the Sheffield tigers site and read Damien Bates explanation of the events of last night 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, r8gdp said: Suggest people go to the Sheffield tigers site and read Damien Bates explanation of the events of last night And stop all twit for tat comments.come on we are all speedway supporters Edited June 28, 2022 by r8gdp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: What a load of boll0cks you’ve just spouted. Why what’s not true. ? You believe what you want in your own fantasy world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Dog said: Whilst the sequence of events last night was unfortunate and unprecedented, there never seems to be a meeting or week goes by where something shambolic happens and this is why fans walk away or vent their frustration on here. Nobody seems to learn from each others mistakes and it's getting to the point of no return. And this is the sport overall and not just aimed at Sheffield!! To be honest, there is quite a bit of humour (even if it is gallows), to be had in observing the rich, wide and varied ways those who run the sport find to shoot themselves in the foot and help destroy their own sport from within... A truly unique way of running a sport and business..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: And you weren`t converted after the Derby to end all derbies ??- there is very little hope for you i fear No not at all, not my team, not the team I have supported from 10 years old, mean nowt to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Charlieboy said: Exactly. But the facts are not considered by Ipswich fans you can’t educate these carrot crunching numpties in Ipswich. We’ve done the double over them already this season and in the first meeting they were sniping cus jack holder was injured and missed riding at one of his non favourite tracks because of an injury in the GP 2 days before. This was Live on tv which they will have watched cus they are only armchair fans. Then last night blamed the air fence and time wasting for the defeat !!!! They need to grow up accept defeat Move on We can accept defeat, however there was a real chance of getting an away point. It's odds on Doyle would have won heat 14 & 15. Given the up & down nights the other heat 15 contenders had had its perfectly possible Ipswich could have got a 5-1 in heat 15. Someone said on here Sheffield only have access to the stadium for 6 hours on a Wednesday to prep the track on last night's evidence they would need a whole day just to put the fence up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 As I said I thought Ipswich deserved a point. Doyle would have won 14 and 15 and I think Riss could possibly a point in 15. If you read what our promotor has put it wasn’t just one airbag to pump up. I was told last night it was the impact and damage done to the gate airbag that caused all the problems!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, mikebv said: To be honest, there is quite a bit of humour (even if it is gallows), to be had in observing the rich, wide and varied ways those who run the sport find to shoot themselves in the foot and help destroy their own sport from within... A truly unique way of running a sport and business..... It's truly amazing & the sad thing is a few now seem to be blaming Eurosport for causing damage to the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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