Sheffield v Ipswich 27 June.

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1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

We have signed him before and he had a terrible attitude and constantly gave up when at the back. Unfortunately the promotion sacked him and had to reinstate him as they didn’t know the rules on team building. 
id imagine bridges were burnt on both sides understandably

The way he is riding would improve any team. He is going to get Alot of guest bookings 

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6 minutes ago, Charlieboy said:

Well there seems to be a lot of bed wetting in Ipswich and a lot of finger pointing. Last nights meeting would have been better obviously without the delays BUT when Eurosport come to the stadium they dictate what happens. Last night the raffle girls couldn’t go on the centre green to make the draw and none of the corporate lot where aloud on either. The start of the meeting is always delayed because of ads and interviews etc. The next delay was heat 2 when broc Nicol stuffed mountain in the fence and got away with it. All the delays were explained by the centre green announcer but for all the armchair fans who weren’t there they wouldn’t know it was been held up by Eurosport. Then we had the Danny king incident which affected 3 panels not just the one he hit. Unfortunately one was the panel covering the gate and the vaulenteer track staff had problems with this repair. Probably if the Ipswich supporters who know all about air fences had turned up to support their team they could have advised on the repair. The meeting was then hurried along by Eurosport only for another Ipswich rider to hit the air fence and more time wasted. Sheffield have had a curfew for years and many people are aware of this because of local housing and a very strict council so we have to live with it. In between the delays I thought there was some decent racing and without the delays a lot of comments on here would have been a lot different. I think Ipswich probably deserved a point and might have achieved it in heat 15. So for all those who couldn’t be bothered to turn up but just enjoy moaning I would suggest pick up your remote and turn the speedway off and put love island on and watch a load of talentless people getting more money that riders risking their lives for your entertainment. 

People come to see racing not trying to repair an air fence. Even Eurosport were having difficulty filling in the gaps! Yes the meeting would have been good without the delays but something has to be done to stop air fence repairs taking so long. I have never been to a meeting where it has taken so long as last night. I am not a fan of either team just turned on the telly to see a good meeting between the top two teams. 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

17 minutes ago, Charlieboy said:

Well there seems to be a lot of bed wetting in Ipswich and a lot of finger pointing. Last nights meeting would have been better obviously without the delays BUT when Eurosport come to the stadium they dictate what happens. Last night the raffle girls couldn’t go on the centre green to make the draw and none of the corporate lot where aloud on either. The start of the meeting is always delayed because of ads and interviews etc. The next delay was heat 2 when broc Nicol stuffed mountain in the fence and got away with it. All the delays were explained by the centre green announcer but for all the armchair fans who weren’t there they wouldn’t know it was been held up by Eurosport. Then we had the Danny king incident which affected 3 panels not just the one he hit. Unfortunately one was the panel covering the gate and the vaulenteer track staff had problems with this repair. Probably if the Ipswich supporters who know all about air fences had turned up to support their team they could have advised on the repair. The meeting was then hurried along by Eurosport only for another Ipswich rider to hit the air fence and more time wasted. Sheffield have had a curfew for years and many people are aware of this because of local housing and a very strict council so we have to live with it. In between the delays I thought there was some decent racing and without the delays a lot of comments on here would have been a lot different. I think Ipswich probably deserved a point and might have achieved it in heat 15. So for all those who couldn’t be bothered to turn up but just enjoy moaning I would suggest pick up your remote and turn the speedway off and put love island on and watch a load of talentless people getting more money that riders risking their lives for your entertainment. 

You are a proper Charlie 

[justathought]

2 hours ago, Panthers99 said:

Is there houses around the track fot the curfew?Only been a few times but from memory it's surrounded by an industrial park and a main road?

Yes.......Lots on the street where the rider's entrance is. 

[Arch Stanton]

34 minutes ago, Charlieboy said:

Well there seems to be a lot of bed wetting in Ipswich and a lot of finger pointing. Last nights meeting would have been better obviously without the delays BUT when Eurosport come to the stadium they dictate what happens. Last night the raffle girls couldn’t go on the centre green to make the draw and none of the corporate lot where aloud on either. The start of the meeting is always delayed because of ads and interviews etc. The next delay was heat 2 when broc Nicol stuffed mountain in the fence and got away with it. All the delays were explained by the centre green announcer but for all the armchair fans who weren’t there they wouldn’t know it was been held up by Eurosport. Then we had the Danny king incident which affected 3 panels not just the one he hit. Unfortunately one was the panel covering the gate and the vaulenteer track staff had problems with this repair. Probably if the Ipswich supporters who know all about air fences had turned up to support their team they could have advised on the repair. The meeting was then hurried along by Eurosport only for another Ipswich rider to hit the air fence and more time wasted. Sheffield have had a curfew for years and many people are aware of this because of local housing and a very strict council so we have to live with it. In between the delays I thought there was some decent racing and without the delays a lot of comments on here would have been a lot different. I think Ipswich probably deserved a point and might have achieved it in heat 15. So for all those who couldn’t be bothered to turn up but just enjoy moaning I would suggest pick up your remote and turn the speedway off and put love island on and watch a load of talentless people getting more money that riders risking their lives for your entertainment. 

What a load of boll0cks you’ve just spouted. 

[PhilTheAce]

The embarrassment of it could have been saved a little by Eurosport themselves. 
BUT…… they don’t have the presenters who can fill long gaps in proceedings. You get a good presentation team and they fill in the gaps comfortably and make you forget there is a delay. Instead we get Abbie who’s ok but nothing else. And Sam who is a nice guy but is terrible when being out infront of a camera. 
 

they also had the opportunity to show some racing from wolves to fill the time. Not the odd snippet of a race. The whole night was badly organised by Eurosport. 
 

now I’m not taking any blame away from Sheffield as they were it fault aswell. Yes you can’t avoid a crash like that but you can help avoiding it by not having a patchy track. 
 

No one’s come out looking any good from this. Especially the sport in this country as a whole. 
 

eurosport are damaging our reputation, so the quicker we can break a deal with them and start using in house streaming the better. 

Edited June 28, 2022 by PhilTheAce

[tellboy]

2 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

The embarrassment of it could have been saved a little by Eurosport themselves. 
BUT…… they don’t have the presenters who can fill long gaps in proceedings. You get a good presentation team and they fill in the gaps comfortably and make you forget there is a delay. Instead we get Abbie who’s ok but nothing else. And dan who is a nice guy but is terrible when being out infront of a camera. 
 

they also had the opportunity to show some racing from wolves to fill the time. Not the odd snippet of a race. The whole night was badly organised by Eurosport. 
 

now I’m. It taking any blame away from Sheffield as they were it fault aswell. Yes you can’t avoid a crash like that but you can help avoiding it by not having a patchy track. 
 

No one’s come out looking any good from this. Especially the sport in this country as a whole. 
 

eurosport are damaging our reputation so the quicker we can break a deal with them and start using in house streaming the better. 

BSN definitely has better coverage and that lady presenter is better than Abby,from your neck of the woods isn't she Phil.

[PhilTheAce]

4 minutes ago, tellboy said:

BSN definitely has better coverage and that lady presenter is better than Abby,from your neck of the woods isn't she Phil.

Yes. She’s the belle Vue presenter on the centre green. 
 

 The whole presentation skills of BSN is good. 
 

I’ve been very impressed with Lee kilby. And I think Phil lanning is very good. 

[Mimmo]

It's about time somebody told Troy Batchelor you have to ride anti-clockwise, what a waster.

On the plus side, Jason Doyle rides in a different postcode most of the time. Sheer class in this league. 

[PhilTheAce]

1 minute ago, Mimmo said:

It's about time somebody told Troy Batchelor you have to ride anti-clockwise, what a waster.

On the plus side, Jason Doyle rides in a different postcode most of the time. Sheer class in this league. 

Breath of fresh air for British speedway. Gives us all every race. Ipswich very lucky to have him. 
 

 During speedway is lucky to have in. 
 

hes 1 rider that as stuck with Uk speedway through the bad times. 

[Tinker]

Agree about Doyley entirely. He was the one shining light last night amongst everything else that was going on. Total commitment to British Speedway and Speedway in general. Also total commitment to Ipswich and some of his racing last night was a joy to watch. Puts a lot of other riders to shame I'm afraid.

[IainB]

17 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Breath of fresh air for British speedway. Gives us all every race. Ipswich very lucky to have him. 
 

 During speedway is lucky to have in. 
 

hes 1 rider that as stuck with Uk speedway through the bad times. 

 

10 minutes ago, Tinker said:

Agree about Doyley entirely. He was the one shining light last night amongst everything else that was going on. Total commitment to British Speedway and Speedway in general. Also total commitment to Ipswich and some of his racing last night was a joy to watch. Puts a lot of other riders to shame I'm afraid.

Has shown more commitment to British Speedway than some British riders... Hans Andersen in that bracket also

[HGould]

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the issues last night, one thing seems to have been completely overlooked

RIDER SAFETY.

A weakness in any fence is as murphys law dictates like a magnet. 

Sheffield is one of the fastest tracks in the Country, phenominal speeds in to the bends and often in the high dirt line.

You CANNOT compromise that for TV, for the Public, it's the one aspect that is NON NEGOTIABLE.

We saw before air / foam fences how exposed lamposts and posts were a magnet, the losses of the likes of Gary Peterson; Denny Pyatt, Vic Harding to name but 3 sadly and forever missed and even with Air Fences riders have been badly hurt by Posts hit after going underneath or totally depressing the bag given the speed of impact.

Had that meeting continued with an ill-fitting or incorrectly fitted bag and someoe have been hurt or worse as a consequence then the raminfications would have been FAR MORE serious.

Maybe too before keyboard warriors and those who have never taken any responsibility for anything in their lives belittle and troll, may be consider the Track Staff and Track Volunteers who make speedy repairs 99 times out of 100 and always walking away with the responsibility of the repair they have ensured in their minds right the way through the meeting until the final race is run.

 

 

 

 

[Mimmo]

7 minutes ago, HGould said:

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the issues last night, one thing seems to have been completely overlooked

RIDER SAFETY.

A weakness in any fence is as murphys law dictates like a magnet. 

Sheffield is one of the fastest tracks in the Country, phenominal speeds in to the bends and often in the high dirt line.

You CANNOT compromise that for TV, for the Public, it's the one aspect that is NON NEGOTIABLE.

We saw before air / foam fences how exposed lamposts and posts were a magnet, the losses of the likes of Gary Peterson; Denny Pyatt, Vic Harding to name but 3 sadly and forever missed and even with Air Fences riders have been badly hurt by Posts hit after going underneath or totally depressing the bag given the speed of impact.

Had that meeting continued with an ill-fitting or incorrectly fitted bag and someoe have been hurt or worse as a consequence then the raminfications would have been FAR MORE serious.

Maybe too before keyboard warriors and those who have never taken any responsibility for anything in their lives belittle and troll, may be consider the Track Staff and Track Volunteers who make speedy repairs 99 times out of 100 and always walking away with the responsibility of the repair they have ensured in their minds right the way through the meeting until the final race is run.

 

 

 

 

I agree, and I fear the worst might have happened particularly to Paul Starke last night but for the air fence.

[cowboy cookie returns?]

1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said:

The embarrassment of it could have been saved a little by Eurosport themselves. 
BUT…… they don’t have the presenters who can fill long gaps in proceedings. You get a good presentation team and they fill in the gaps comfortably and make you forget there is a delay. Instead we get Abbie who’s ok but nothing else. And Sam who is a nice guy but is terrible when being out infront of a camera. 
 

they also had the opportunity to show some racing from wolves to fill the time. Not the odd snippet of a race. The whole night was badly organised by Eurosport. 
 

now I’m not taking any blame away from Sheffield as they were it fault aswell. Yes you can’t avoid a crash like that but you can help avoiding it by not having a patchy track. 
 

No one’s come out looking any good from this. Especially the sport in this country as a whole. 
 

eurosport are damaging our reputation, so the quicker we can break a deal with them and start using in house streaming the better. 

How can you say Eurosport are damaging the reputation of British speedway?

British speedway has done far more damage to its own reputation over the years the whole thing is just one big farce!

 

[scunny1]

4 hours ago, HGould said:

May be Scunthorpe should start at 3pm then on a Friday, give the Paramedic . Medic and Ambulance chance to turn up, go away, come back  

Even longer to read the programme - oh what programme 

Get out of that glass house it might get hot! 

Think Birmingham have far more things to worry about than worrying about the EWR.

[keepturningleft]

This forum appears to be in a parallel universe from comments on the Sheffield Facebook page which are overwhelmingly positive about the quality of the meeting including from a couple of first timers who say they will definitely return for more despite the delays.

And yes, the delays were annoying but there was thrilling racing to savour especially from Doyle who is worth the price of admission alone.

With a curfew looming, why did the referee allow the further time wasting gardening antics from the riders to continue?

[geoff100]

I find it hard to believe than a tv producer on thousands a year in charge of a budget of millions thinks its a good idea to put"sam in his office",some of the bimbos sky used to have make him look good!

[geoff100]

2 minutes ago, keepturningleft said:

This forum appears to be in a parallel universe from comments on the Sheffield Facebook page which are overwhelmingly positive about the quality of the meeting including from a couple of first timers who say they will definitely return for more despite the delays.

And yes, the delays were annoying but there was thrilling racing to savour especially from Doyle who is worth the price of admission alone.

With a curfew looming, why did the referee allow the further time wasting gardening antics from the riders to continue?

U try stopping them gardening.

[PhilTheAce]

32 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

How can you say Eurosport are damaging the reputation of British speedway?

British speedway has done far more damage to its own reputation over the years the whole thing is just one big farce!

 

No, I agree. British speedway is harming itself. But that’s just us die hards that can see that. Eurosport are broadcasting it to the nation with a shambolic presentation team. And I imagine any newbies tuning in would turn off after 20 mins of Sam.