Baldyman Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 Well I heard she is absolutely f ing useless,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 Buttons,,, what do you think now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Derrickn said: You dont even get rewarded for coming first in the super heat,you get rewarded for not coming last.How woke is that. It’s sh*te is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I believe Barbs let everyone know it was an untrimmed bush that caused the issue last night.... Trim ya bush to make the yard look bigger.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Derrickn said: You dont even get rewarded for coming first in the super heat,you get rewarded for not coming last.How woke is that. Whoever finishes 1st, 2nd & 3rd means nothing. It's all about avoiding 4th place. In a super heat a 5-4 is as valuable as a 7-2. Never been a fan of this scoring system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 It has to be that way though to ensure a result in the extra one heat, otherwise you could get another half dozen 3-3’s and be there all night waiting for a heat advantage. The only other way and my preference, is a simple run off with a nominated rider from each team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) The only way is to not have it at all, total waste of time. Nothing wrong with 1 point for home team and 2 for the away team for a draw. I would've been happy to get a point from last night as I didn't think we were going to get that after heat 13. Some Peterborough fans don't like it, but it went in their favour at home to Sheffield and they had to use a TS to help them. Regarding the Starke-Doyle incident, I sit in front of the refs box by the start and had a clear view of the incident, so don't know how she got it wrong. Also I think they should get rid of the plants on the centre green, they do block parts of the view of the corner, but not in this incident. Edited June 24, 2022 by Bash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 In its a knock out,, they used to dress up in a giants costume and have soapy sponges thrown at them,,, oh that's to serious for speedway. So,,, how about one nominated rider from each team team,, 4 laps,, fastest time wins,, or maybe 1 lap,, or maybe 2 laps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 Or,,, since its a team sport,, most bonus points wins,, or most heat advantages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: It has to be that way though to ensure a result in the extra one heat, otherwise you could get another half dozen 3-3’s and be there all night waiting for a heat advantage. The only other way and my preference, is a simple run off with a nominated rider from each team. 4 super heat races max Team manager picks 2 riders... if its a 3 3 he picks different 2 riders. Then another 2 in 3rd heat. Finally that leaves 1 rider left for superheat 4. If team using rr normal rules apply. Could be that team leave better rider for last heat and go for the 3-3s... Or team relay of a 1 Lap dash for 2 opposing riders .. where Riders start at tapes and do one lap and come into " pits." ( centre green) Take out cut out and put in next riders bike... then off he goes for 1 lap... Edited June 24, 2022 by 2ndbendbeerhut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Or,,, since its a team sport,, most bonus points wins,, or most heat advantages Why dont they have a DD at the end like the Bangers last man standing wins , Ipswich would only need one rider ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: 4 super heat races max Team manager picks 2 riders... if its a 3 3 he picks different 2 riders. Then another 2 in 3rd heat. Finally that leaves 1 rider left for superheat 4. If team using rr normal rules apply. Could be that team leave better rider for last heat and go for the 3-3s... Or team relay of a 1 Lap dash for 2 opposing riders .. where Riders start at tapes and do one lap and come into " pits." ( centre green) Take out cut out and put in next riders bike... then off he goes for 1 lap... Meanwhile,, whilst riders are swapping,, the mechanic is finding TDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: Joke rule. Farcical result. Complete load of bolleaux. 15 hours ago, Sully said: 2 super heats so far and 2 home wins. Hardly rewards the away teams efforts to get a draw. 30 minutes ago, Bash said: The only way is to not have it at all, total waste of time. 20 minutes ago, Baldyman said: In its a knock out,, they used to dress up in a giants costume and have soapy sponges thrown at them,,, oh that's to serious for speedway. So,,, how about one nominated rider from each team team,, 4 laps,, fastest time wins,, or maybe 1 lap,, or maybe 2 laps. See I’m on the fence a bit with this new rule. I agree with Sully, the away team really should be rewarded more for Drawing an away meeting which is notoriously difficult to do. But on the other hand, numerous people over the years have been complaining about the lack of drama and entertainment at meetings and falling crowd levels and that those in charge need to come up with things to freshen the sport up. They bring one in, and suddenly everyone seems to be cry arsing about it. Whether you think it’s unfair or not, anyone who was there last night surely couldn’t help but be drawn in by the drama of those last two heats. When was the last time you saw an atmosphere like that at Foxhall? I saw people around me shouting at the top of their lungs encouraging Doyle and King home for the points, and then the pure joy on peoples faces high fiving each other as they crossed the line. Would you get that kind of reaction from nicking a draw? Of course not. This is the sort of stuff you don’t mind paying your money for surely? It was box office it’s as simple as that. As I said I understand the point that it seems unfair on the away team and that’s valid, the Panthers fans were obviously annoyed on here last night and that’s fair enough, but they were on the victorious end of the “super heat” last week and didn’t seem to mind it then. Whether you like the rule or not, we all know that a drawn meeting isn’t enough to take 2 points anymore. It’s not as if Panthers thought they had 2 points in the bag and then boom, out steps Noel Edmunds with a gotcha and drops it on them that they actually haven’t got 2 points and they now need to negotiate a super heat. They could have got themselves the 3 or even 4 points from the meeting by winning in the 15 heats but ultimately didn’t do enough. It could well be our turn to be on the receiving end of a super heat before the season is out and I’m sure we’ll be annoyed! But I’m also sure that whichever set of home fans win it will absolutely love it just like we did last night and Peterborough did last week against Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Every teams fans are going to like it when you win hate it when you lose, of the two super heats so far theres been mixed reactions even amongst the winning teams fans as to the point of the race , Peterborough's looney poster has just used it to wind up others and then everyone takes it that how all Peterborough fans feel Personally think its a waste of time and should be scrapped and go back to the points reward only . Peterborough's super heat win was against Sheffield and it was good for the fact that Holder finished up losing after his antics on the night . Edited June 24, 2022 by scoobydoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 Ahh indeed it was Sheffield apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Good meeting, the added drama of the super heat will not please many, I am a traditionalist usually myself but I have to admit i found it all quote exciting and the crowd were certainly up for it - Witches appeared to have thrown it away conceding two 1-5's in heats 11 and 12 and when Basso managed to squeeze past Hume in heat 14 I did think with the way Harris is riding a 5-1 in heat 15 might not happen. The Doyle exclusion - from where I was sat on the 2nd bend it appeared that Doyle tried a cutback and thats why Starke ran into him - having looked at the video from Chivsy that doesnt seem to come across from that angle. Someone had to go as it was past the first bend! The track did look good early on - it dried out a little later on but somehow King managed to find a lot of drive to pass Sedgmen on the inside - a proper elbows battle going down the back straight on lap 2 that was! Sedgmen had done well as he was last going into the first bend and a proper kerb job had seen him emerge 2nd behind Harris so the Witches pair earned that win for sure! Decent crowd some decent racing also a last heat (heat 15) 5-1 and the super heatwin will keep the home fans happy, well most of them anyway!! rubbish (not what I said initially!!) happens in sport as they say, feel a bit for the Panthers but they kind of got away with it against Sheffield so what goes around comes around as we all know!! Edited June 24, 2022 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: 4 super heat races max Team manager picks 2 riders... if its a 3 3 he picks different 2 riders. Then another 2 in 3rd heat. Finally that leaves 1 rider left for superheat 4. If team using rr normal rules apply. Could be that team leave better rider for last heat and go for the 3-3s... Or team relay of a 1 Lap dash for 2 opposing riders .. where Riders start at tapes and do one lap and come into " pits." ( centre green) Take out cut out and put in next riders bike... then off he goes for 1 lap... Or just call it a draw, last night a draw was the far result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Or just call it a draw, last night a draw was the far result. I am happy with a draw too - but they have changed it in their wisdom so I am running with it for now, modern sport seems to dislike draws - as a football purist there was nothing like a 1-1 away from home having spent 80 minutes camped in your own box defending like mad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Baldyman said: Buttons,,, what do you think now? From the clip shown pretty damning on starkes part. at the time of the event I felt Doyle having gone to the outside initially stood the bike up very hard and changed his line cutting back a lot harder than it looks in the video and felt once committed to a line starke had little time to adjust and avoid him cutting back. The angle of the video doesn’t really support that and I guess end of the day if you’re in front you can ride whatever line you want in theory can’t you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu219 Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Weather you agree with the superheat its box office for sure. Just had to see that nonone left before the end and the reaction of the crowd showed the passion. Many have been crying out for this and we got it last night. My thoughts for what its worth is that the super heat should just be for an extra point though. So last night it would have been ipswich 2 points and boro 2 points. Still worth having the super heat though and we all got an extra race and what a race it was hey? Edited June 24, 2022 by stu219 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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