ruffdiamond Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, HectorRacing said: Blame the fans! will they update the fb page with this? Grant killed newcastle speedway (what makes it worse is hearing how he turned down help/etc) TBF tho, wasn't like it was thriving beforehand?,,, been struggling for many years previous, which is pretty obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, HectorRacing said: Blame the fans! will they update the fb page with this? Grant killed newcastle speedway (what makes it worse is hearing how he turned down help/etc) To be fair to grant with the previous promotion leaving him a hefty vat bill to pay did not help at all but he's made several huge errors which have contributed to the sport at Newcastle going down the pan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, bloom89 said: To be fair to grant with the previous promotion leaving him a hefty vat bill to pay did not help at all but he's made several huge errors which have contributed to the sport at Newcastle going down the pan. Was never not going down the pan IMO, just slip sliding away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, scampispeedway said: I did think about going to the Northumberland Show at Bywell that was advertised to take place on the 3/06/2022 when the Club would be putting on a display. As it happens I didn't bother because of the distance to get around all the displays and being outside for such a long time, looking on FaceBook they did have some footage of the Club and only Max Clegg and James Wright had their bikes there and they went around for a few laps on the grass, which has no comparison to riding a shale circuit but I suppose it was the best that could be done on the day. I don't know how many of those people who attended had ever seen or heard of Speedway and then were interested in going to Brough Park the next Sunday but I have my doubts many would bother once the total price of taking a family on a regular basis were carefully looked into. It didn’t help that they had the show on the Friday and were that stupid not to have a meeting on the Sunday. Even one of the riders mentioned that there should of been a meeting when people were interested. Leave something 10 days and people won’t bother, why not give out cheaper tickets instead of leaflets. Opportunity missed to at least try and increase attendances. Granty was to bothered with burger van most of day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winditon Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Gaz said: It didn’t help that they had the show on the Friday and were that stupid not to have a meeting on the Sunday. Even one of the riders mentioned that there should of been a meeting when people were interested. Leave something 10 days and people won’t bother, why not give out cheaper tickets instead of leaflets. Opportunity missed to at least try and increase attendances. Granty was to bothered with burger van most of day. Looking back now i honestly think a big part of Grant taking over Newcastle speedway was to see how much he could benefit from having the catering rights. When you look back he tried every kind of catering outlet. From burgers, Greek food, ice cream, waffles and whatever else. I take it he's a so called businessman but i think his interest definitely was more about selling food than promoting speedway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Diamond_Delight said: To Whom It May Concern Newcastle Diamonds Limited (“the Company”) I have been asked by the Director of the Company to assist with putting the Company into Liquidation and wind up its affairs. The Company ran the Newcastle Diamonds team from the Newcastle Greyhound Stadium, taking part in the Championship League. The Speedway Team will not take part in any more events. The main reasons put forward for the situation are reducing crowds leading to losses and the need to cease activities to avoid further losses. British Speedway has been advised of the situation. Parties owed money by the Company will be contacted separately shortly, including season ticket holders. Such parties can send an initial email to me with details of their what they consider is their claim against the Company. If customers paid by card, they may be able to make reclaims from card providers. You should contact them to confirm what they need from you. The director wishes to pass on his upmost apologies and considers that he did everything he possibly could to keep speedway alive at Newcastle, but with dwindling crowd levels well below breakeven left him little choice but to cease trading. Chartered Certified Accountant Licensed Insolvency Practitioner Just received this email this afternoon with regard to season tickets Upmost apologies ha why don't you do the decent thing & pay up the season ticket money owed as the season ticket holders were happy to pay upfront at the start of the short season.. absolutely terrible actions from yaself Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, HectorRacing said: Blame the fans! will they update the fb page with this? Grant killed newcastle speedway (what makes it worse is hearing how he turned down help/etc) Help ( there was loads offered) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Was never not going down the pan IMO, just slip sliding away. Well it was never going to be river deep MOUNTAIN high with the team on track tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said: Well it was never going to be river deep MOUNTAIN high with the team on track tbf Never really had a decent team since Mr Hedley was around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stbendwinkoboy Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Winditon said: Looking back now i honestly think a big part of Grant taking over Newcastle speedway was to see how much he could benefit from having the catering rights. When you look back he tried every kind of catering outlet. From burgers, Greek food, ice cream, waffles and whatever else. I take it he's a so called businessman but i think his interest definitely was more about selling food than promoting speedway. Yes. Having the catering rights, and his own catering business, helped Grant's income stream that no other previous promotion had. The fact it was so successful in the his early days with home and away fans, obviously cushioned the low income from low numbers of attendees. Eventually less attendees and less fans attending and using his catering, made it even less viable. Other previous promotions had to allow the stadium to take the catering profits, but still continued to give a decent team over most years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, 1stbendwinkoboy said: For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. Bradley Wilson Dean.. always was an awful signing had never had a great meeting at brough and never been a number 1. I am sure he only averaged 5 or 6 last time he rode properly. Grants first big error of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, 1stbendwinkoboy said: For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. Congreve doing alright in the IOW meetings. Competitive enough to mix and or beat Morley, Coles and Atkins who are all either CL reserve or fringe level. Yes his average would be a point higher but it seems hard to believe he couldn't hold his own at another CL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Sings4Speedway said: Congreve doing alright in the IOW meetings. Competitive enough to mix and or beat Morley, Coles and Atkins who are all either CL reserve or fringe level. Yes his average would be a point higher but it seems hard to believe he couldn't hold his own at another CL club. George English paid him to do sh!te. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, 1stbendwinkoboy said: For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. Jesus!!! Everyone knew that team was woeful!! As for blaming Glasgow for the absolute farce that is Newcastle Speedway its laughable!! Grant deserves everything he is getting and more 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Congreve doing alright in the IOW meetings. Competitive enough to mix and or beat Morley, Coles and Atkins who are all either CL reserve or fringe level. Yes his average would be a point higher but it seems hard to believe he couldn't hold his own at another CL club. I'd agree that George Congreve could probably do a job for another CL team. At the end of the day signing for Newcastle was a bad move for him, it must be one of the hardest tracks to master in Britain. Then with no disrespect to the rest of the team they didn't have the strength in depth to be able to carry him until he got into the groove. On the IOW riding on a track of a type he is more used to riding he's showing what he can do. We have few enough riders in this country as it is so hopefully depending on Leagues and strengths of them in 2023, someone will take a punt and give him a teamspot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winditon Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Tsunami said: Yes. Having the catering rights, and his own catering business, helped Grant's income stream that no other previous promotion had. The fact it was so successful in the his early days with home and away fans, obviously cushioned the low income from low numbers of attendees. Eventually less attendees and less fans attending and using his catering, made it even less viable. Other previous promotions had to allow the stadium to take the catering profits, but still continued to give a decent team over most years. So true Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 8 hours ago, 1stbendwinkoboy said: For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. The team put together was 3 points under the limit!!! Even if everyone performed to their average they'd have still got beaten, when you look at the opposing team strengths. Everyone could have foreseen the BWD was never going to be a competitive number one in the Championship. Never had been before and had been out injured for a considerable time. I don't know if it was done on the cheap or who else could have been signed tbf but unless everyone rode to their average and Complin was able to get back to being a 7 pointer that team had wooden spoon written all over it. As an aside, now the Toon are moving to the quayside sporting complex (apparently) how about a cheeky bid into the council to turn Sid James' into the world biggest speedway arena. Imagine. Every supporter could have their own corporate box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winditon Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, enotian said: The team put together was 3 points under the limit!!! Even if everyone performed to their average they'd have still got beaten, when you look at the opposing team strengths. Everyone could have foreseen the BWD was never going to be a competitive number one in the Championship. Never had been before and had been out injured for a considerable time. I don't know if it was done on the cheap or who else could have been signed tbf but unless everyone rode to their average and Complin was able to get back to being a 7 pointer that team had wooden spoon written all over it. As an aside, now the Toon are moving to the quayside sporting complex (apparently) how about a cheeky bid into the council to turn Sid James' into the world biggest speedway arena. Imagine. Every supporter could have their own corporate box You a mackem by any chance ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 18 hours ago, 1stbendwinkoboy said: For sure the team fell to bits. But no-one could have foreseen that Bradley Wilson Dean would have been unable to perform given his record with Peterborough when he was last over here. He could reasonably have been expected to be a very competent number one. George Congreve was right up with Dean in NZ but proved to be out of his depth here. Not really Grant's fault. Plus Wright, Clegg, Wethers and Starke. To me it didn't seem to be a table topping team but, frankly, neither did not seem to be a bad team. A pivotal point, oft forgotten, was the Glasgow farce at Newcastle. Cammy Brown should never have been allowed to brow beat the referee regarding a hole in the track that no rider had gone near. Brown knew we were going to win that one and the negative psychological impact on Newcastle riders was severe when the meeting was lost by default. A lot of new faces at Brough that night. But they witnessed faffing about and delays and then lost a third of their entrance money when the meeting was cancelled. We may never know the whole story. But continuing the pillorying of Grant will be no help whatsoever as potential buyers will be really alarmed about the vitriol spilling out in this blog. Potential Buyers.!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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