MartinBSN Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gaz said: They managed to put a post out wanting to get people to buy Poole tickets. What a joker!! I don't think you understand how social media management works... Firstly the guy posting on socials will not be involved in talks. Secondly, it was most likely s scheduled post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, jenga said: sad news if its true . Sad indeed,,, hopefully some kind of resurrection like over your way? Edited June 21, 2022 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Signs a rider last week and throws dummy out the pram this week, always thought this would happen with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 despite what's said on here the bloke has obviously lost a shed load of money 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Will I still be able to get into the greyhounds and just the speedway gone under? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil83 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: I don't think you understand how social media management works... Firstly the guy posting on socials will not be involved in talks. Secondly, it was most likely s scheduled post! I can guarantee that the post was not scheduled as I only found out at 2:30 this morning mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, ch958 said: despite what's said on here the bloke has obviously lost a shed load of money Not this season he won’t of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, ch958 said: despite what's said on here the bloke has obviously lost a shed load of money Yes but because of his own ineptness. Any previous promoters/promotion have played no part in this closure, just his lack of man management and inability to do the right thing at the right time. It is fair to say he is the worst promoter ever at Newcastle. Sad day given the great effort in 1997 to resurrect the sport by me, George and Peter. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Horrendous for the Diamonds fans and feel a bit for riders too. Grant has done nothing but harm the club since he came in, don't really see any way back now (certainly not at the current venue) but the whole reputation is in tatters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Yes but because of his own ineptness. Any previous promoters/promotion have played no part in this closure, just his lack of man management and inability to do the right thing at the right time. It is fair to say he is the worst promoter ever at Newcastle. Sad day given the great effort in 1997 to resurrect the sport by me, George and Peter. Agreed. Can't really give English much credit if you believe the way it was left, but at least there was an element of reliability most seasons (and some decent sides). Grant has been about as successful as a promoter as he was as a rider. Far too pigheaded to make it work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season.. Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes.. Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year.. Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it.. And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell.. There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard... With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with... All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"... Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over.... Let's hope someone does.. And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season.. Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes.. Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year.. Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it.. And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell.. There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard... With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with... All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"... Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over.... Let's hope someone does.. And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did... Never was the tune another one bites the dust so perfect for this sport With the current model of domestic speedway there are too many clubs running so who is next? Feel for the fans only, if the sport as a whole was run differently clubs like Newcastle could survive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Given the events at Newcastle over the last couple of years this comes as little surprise sadly. Rob Grant clearly didn't do his homework while taking over the club then found himself way over his head. There were/are several offers of help but they seem to fallen on deaf ears so the club have went from one disaster to another. At the bottom of this of course is the fans who now have lost their speedway and they have my upmost sympathy, slim chance of finding a new owner but a slim chance is better than no chance at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season.. Yet those who run the sport didn't, which probably speaks volumes.. <snip> Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with... <snip> 1) Even from a distance, this was sadly so very predictable. 2) Can imagine the vultures are gathering already. Birmingham could probably sign Clegg, or even Starke, in place of Pearson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Never was the tune another one bites the dust so perfect for this sport With the current model of domestic speedway there are too many clubs running so who is next? Feel for the fans only, if the sport as a whole was run differently clubs like Newcastle could survive When the penny finally drops (if it ever will), that given the way they decide to run the sport, the entertainment value they provide as a collective throughout the whole season, means 1000% far more to the sport than any individual team gaining play off success ever will... When only 20000 or so watch the sport regularly each week, losing 600/700 is a big blow... And with just a modicum amount of clear leadership, strategy and planning, could be so easily avoided... Edited June 21, 2022 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Guess that's official then? https://plymouth-speedway.com/plymouth-speedway-announcement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: 1) Even from a distance, this was sadly so very predictable. 2) Can imagine the vultures are gathering already. Birmingham could probably sign Clegg, or even Starke, in place of Pearson. Out of the frying pan in to another frying pan? 10 minutes ago, mikebv said: When the penny finally drops (if it ever will), that given the way they decide to run the sport, the entertainment value they provide as a collective throughout the whole season, means 1000% far more to the sport than any individual team gaining play off success ever will... When only 20000 or so watch the sport regularly each week, losing 600/700 is a big blow... And with just a modicum amount of clear leadership, strategy and planning, could be so easily avoided... Are you putting yourself forward? unfortunately those in power would much rather mastermind their own demise than do anything for the greater good 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HGould said: Guess that's official then? https://plymouth-speedway.com/plymouth-speedway-announcement/ And still nothing from this totally inept owner!!!! We have to find out that we've officially closed on an opposing clubs website ya couldn't make it up!!! Edited June 21, 2022 by andys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Riders will go wherever there's a guarantee of being paid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, mikebv said: Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season.. Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes.. Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year.. Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it.. And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell.. There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard... With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with... All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"... Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over.... Let's hope someone does.. And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did... Again, grant chose to put this cheap team together..if you go back and read messaged from THJ there's numerous evidence of this. Nothing to do with the league set up!!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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