Wardey Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Feeling a bit uncomfortable with people slagging Grant & Co, but hey, every is entitled to their opinion. It was a poisoned chalice from the beginning taking over the club. The tax debt from previous management was the tell tale sign that things were going south for a few years previously for our beloved club. The chances of getting someone in.....I think we all know thats slim, there was hardly a rush for it last season. I hope everyone is at peace with themselves, whether you did the trackwalk and picked up some shale, got your favourite merchandise, photo with your favourite rider.....time to treasure it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Very sad but so predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Jaizer said: Again, grant chose to put this cheap team together..if you go back and read messaged from THJ there's numerous evidence of this. Nothing to do with the league set up!!! 100% to do with the league set up... The team chosen were not good enough by a country mile... Therefore "the leadership" of the sport should have not allowed it... If that was all he could put together then it should have been NDL or nothing.. Letting that team race against teams with up to 3 Div 1 HL's was a ludicrous decision and clearly doomed to fail.. As a leader you have to make very tough decisions sometimes for the greater good.. Speedway desperately needs that level of leadership... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, mikebv said: 100% to do with the league set up... The team chosen were not good enough by a country mile... Therefore "the leadership" of the sport should have not allowed it... If that was all he could put together then it should have been NDL or nothing.. Letting that team race against teams with up to 3 Div 1 HL's was a ludicrous decision and clearly doomed to fail.. As a leader you have to make very tough decisions sometimes for the greater good.. Speedway desperately needs that level of leadership... No, you and Etonian bleet on about the set up, too many heat leaders in one team etc etc then jump on this as evidence to your claim. End of the day starting team was what 3/4 points below limit with a rider with an average over 8. On this occasion a cheap team was built relatively close to the points limit so why would management committee refuse them entry? Until they got a decent track were holding their own at home which really was all that was asked for. It's a sad day for the sport, one of its oldest, traditional clubs that's ran concurrently for my lifetime is potentially gone. It's no day for point scoring IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wardey said: Feeling a bit uncomfortable with people slagging Grant & Co, but hey, every is entitled to their opinion. It was a poisoned chalice from the beginning taking over the club. The tax debt from previous management was the tell tale sign that things were going south for a few years previously for our beloved club. The chances of getting someone in.....I think we all know thats slim, there was hardly a rush for it last season. I hope everyone is at peace with themselves, whether you did the trackwalk and picked up some shale, got your favourite merchandise, photo with your favourite rider.....time to treasure it. Granty was the man in charge.Bit off more than he could chew by the looks of it.IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, HGould said: Guess that's official then? https://plymouth-speedway.com/plymouth-speedway-announcement/ Cancelled...meaning Newcastle have gone completely. If there was a chance of a rescue deal, the match would have been postponed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Jaizer said: No, you and Etonian bleet on about the set up, too many heat leaders in one team etc etc then jump on this as evidence to your claim. End of the day starting team was what 3/4 points below limit with a rider with an average over 8. On this occasion a cheap team was built relatively close to the points limit so why would management committee refuse them entry? Until they got a decent track were holding their own at home which really was all that was asked for. It's a sad day for the sport, one of its oldest, traditional clubs that's ran concurrently for my lifetime is potentially gone. It's no day for point scoring IMO Assessed/Reassessed averages often mean nothing but can 100% be made to look what you want them to look like.. There has to be quality control when trying to sell a product... Controlled by those in charge of the operation... That team were clearly "miles away"... So much so all the "mystics" on here predicted exactly what has happened before a wheel was turned.. And that was even with them able to track a better rider at No1 most weeks than the one they recruited... Leadership is key.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Hope the riders can get fixed up now. Starkey I'd guess be a man in demand, big stormy looks on a good average too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Feel for the fans....fair play to all those that tried their hardest to keep the club going, whether they did the so called 'right' thing/s or not, at least they had a go! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Sad news but unfortunately not unexpected,p maybe the burger sales are losing money as well !! so the plug has been pulled, can't see anyone willing to put money in to save it especially in today's financial climate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Spose it was only a matter of time, just shows how well the previous promotors did in hindsight . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: Spose it was only a matter of time, just shows how well the previous promotors did in hindsight . Easier to make a profit when you don't pay the vat man. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fina Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Sad to see another team go, feels like every time there is some good news about an attempt to bring a team back we get hit with a a couple of lots of bad news. No I am not the typical speedway fan & I am asking a lot of questions about the sport, but to me its part of a rich motorsport heritage in this country and as a motorsport fan I don't want to see any part of that lost. Feel for all the loyal fans & volunteers, the riders and don't forget the youngsters in the Sapphires. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, wtf said: Out of the frying pan in to another frying pan? Are you putting yourself forward? unfortunately those in power would much rather mastermind their own demise than do anything for the greater good he talks more sense on here than many 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotfs Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Sad to see any team go under especially given with the history of the club. Now wait for all the in 'English we trust' brigade to pipe up.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Sad but inevitable, looking on from the outside it seemed like the only outcome. The situation always seemed perilous and to try and run a season with the team assembled was a recipe for disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 In fairness to Rob Grant, he had to deal with more critical problems in his short stewardship than most businessmen do in a lifetime. If it wasn't for the VAT bombshell which emerged fairly early doors followed shortly by the devastation and massive uncertainty which COVID caused it might have been a completely different story. Call me naive but he came in with a good heart, lots of ideas and the first team he put together looked full of promise but sadly never got the opportunity to ride. Now we've got no speedway at Brough and only beneficiaries will be Berwick and Redcar (and maybe Workington in the not too distant future) for the diehards who need their weekly speedway fix. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 The bigger problems aside from making the sport look a total shambles is the impact on other clubs Redcar for example went there, spent a fortune on rider points and will have no corresponding home fixture to help cover this deficit. Any season ticket holder who hasn't seen Newcastle visit their track will have lost out this year. The governing body that accepted this crock pot team into the league should also be accountable for the demise. All that has been achieved is a promotor has made back some of his initial losses and scarpered leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, FromBendThree said: Cancelled...meaning Newcastle have gone completely. If there was a chance of a rescue deal, the match would have been postponed. It says postponed on the BSPA Web site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Statement on Newcastle Facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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