Poole Pirates Vs Plymouth Gladiators 22 June

[LisaColette]

42 minutes ago, SouthernComet said:

Firstly, congratulations must go to Plymouth on their fine win,  sorry they didn't win did they....

In all seriousness, it would've been a comfortable away win if MPT hadn't had his accident. Although contact is minimal, if any at all, I don't have any real complaints about Lawson going. It is a hard move, not a dangerous move but a hard move that does cause MPT to come off. To those who are saying that its a disgraceful move from Lawson, then I don't believe this sport is for you...

Track was poor in my eyes. Not enough water put down before or during the meeting with dust appearing right from the beginning. 

Also, Bowtell giving it the big one to the main stand after Heat 14, only to be given third was a personal highlight. Especially after Heat 8. Even if I do feel he got second ahead of Cook.

Poole need changes I feel, I would have to do the maths and check the averages but a couple of changes such as Adam Ellis & Anders Rowe for Danny King & Nathan Ablitt wouldn't be the worst move in the world I feel. The Nathan experiment, whilst I understand why its being done, I feel would only work if every side in the league had a 2.00 at No 7. Both Ablitt & McGurk were comfortably behind on all occasions. Not miles off the pace but not really causing any problems.

Onto Berwick next week, only Bomber to deal with....Looking forward to seeing Knudsen ride, if he doesn't have Danish commitments that is.

Yes, let's sign riders who don't wanna be here. Great idea! 

Why is everyone obsessed with signing Anders Rowe? He doesn't even want to ride in England! 

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For what its worth I think Pam-Toft saw Lawson coming and got into his own mess.

[Bellers101]

Such a shame MPT couldn't finish the meeting.

[Arthur54]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

So Shovlar thinks that for a rider to be excluded you have to make contact lol…

Thanks for the video clearly shows Lawson diving in hard and leaving MPT no room to do anything 

Lawson isn’t a dirty rider usually but he got this all wrong.

Why can’t Poole fans see things like everyone else admit Lawson should have been excluded and move on

Poole simply not strong enough this season if the 3 heat leaders don’t get at least 10 each they struggle 

Plymouth lost Barker and lost MPT in the meeting had a reserve that didn’t score so Poole couldn’t beat a 4 man team with their usual 1-7…. 

MPT unbeaten until Lawson took him out of the meeting and his next 3 rides accrued 2 points so Plymouth so unlucky not to win comfortably in the end

 

 

 

 

Most definitely Plymouth would have won if Palm Toft hadn't been ruled out of the meeting 

[Fromafar]

It was a hard move but no way was it deliberate foul riding.That was reminiscent of Harris’s move on Paul Starke at Glasgow when Plymouth were there.I thought Harris was hard done by but other thought differently.That’s Speedway.Speedy recovery to Palm Toft.

Edited June 23, 2022 by Fromafar

[scoobydoo]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

Lawson to blame for me. Lawson comes in wayyy to hard, Tofty can see what's going to happen. Toft has 2 choices, 1,He comes off the throttle for a slit second and tries to get out of the way, which he did.. That caused the bike to straighten up for a split second, the bike grips and he's in the fence.  2. Keep screwed on and get obliterated in between Lawson and the fence.

It looks like his elbow might of caught Lawsons bike as wel. If there wasn't contact somewhere i'd be shocked. I'm sure Richard didn't mean it, but that crossed the line imho. Only one rider at fault there... And i'm a Stars fan...

 

Nice to read someone with the sence to look at that incident and call it spot on , if Toft hadnt of got out the way both riders would of tangled and gone full pelt into the fence and without doubt both ended up being injured , Lawson was carrying to much speed and as a result couldn't turn the bike obviously not meant but the right call was made .

[Catalan]

1 hour ago, SouthernComet said:

Firstly, congratulations must go to Plymouth on their fine win,  sorry they didn't win did they....

In all seriousness, it would've been a comfortable away win if MPT hadn't had his accident. Although contact is minimal, if any at all, I don't have any real complaints about Lawson going. It is a hard move, not a dangerous move but a hard move that does cause MPT to come off. To those who are saying that its a disgraceful move from Lawson, then I don't believe this sport is for you...

Track was poor in my eyes. Not enough water put down before or during the meeting with dust appearing right from the beginning. 

Also, Bowtell giving it the big one to the main stand after Heat 14, only to be given third was a personal highlight. Especially after Heat 8. Even if I do feel he got second ahead of Cook.

Poole need changes I feel, I would have to do the maths and check the averages but a couple of changes such as Adam Ellis & Anders Rowe for Danny King & Nathan Ablitt wouldn't be the worst move in the world I feel. The Nathan experiment, whilst I understand why its being done, I feel would only work if every side in the league had a 2.00 at No 7. Both Ablitt & McGurk were comfortably behind on all occasions. Not miles off the pace but not really causing any problems.

Onto Berwick next week, only Bomber to deal with....Looking forward to seeing Knudsen ride, if he doesn't have Danish commitments that is.

Are you for real?

Track was being watered all day but with a drying wind and hot weather it was hard to keep it in track.

The away team manager actually praised it as it wasn't as dusty as he expected.

[Fromafar]

26 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

Nice to read someone with the sence to look at that incident and call it spot on , if Toft hadnt of got out the way both riders would of tangled and gone full pelt into the fence and without doubt both ended up being injured , Lawson was carrying to much speed and as a result couldn't turn the bike obviously not meant but the right call was made .

You were watching a different video than me then.Palm Toft was just unlucky he lifted.Like others have said he anticipated Lawson coming under him.Can see why the ref excluded Lawson though.

[scoobydoo]

24 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

You were watching a different video than me then.Palm Toft was just unlucky he lifted.Like others have said he anticipated Lawson coming under him.Can see why the ref excluded Lawson though.

I must have been watching the original video whilst you were watching the pirate copy !!

Edited June 23, 2022 by scoobydoo

[Triple.H.]

8 hours ago, chris4gillian said:

Two things;

1) You called Lawson a gating tart which is something he most definately isn't and never has been and

2) You inferred Lawson cannot pass without knocking other riders off, something he proved he could do a number of other times during the same meeting.

Sorry, but in my eyes the above unfortunately proves your post was 'clueless'.

He's not known as Dickie The Gater to my friends and me because of his prowess at passing the opposition 

[chris4gillian]

1 hour ago, Triple.H. said:

He's not known as Dickie The Gater to my friends and me because of his prowess at passing the opposition 

Poole obviously suits him better than many other tracks then.

[KEITH M]

I knew the minute that MPT hit the deck and Elton John was probably singing I’m still Standing that Steve would clear Lawson of all blame 

[phillipsr]

36 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

Poole obviously suits him better than many other tracks then.

He is a former moto x rider so yeah probably!!! 
 

imagine arguing that Lawson isn't a gating tart!! 

[Fromafar]

There’s a few Teams would like to sign a gating tart as good as Lawson though.

[phillipsr]

6 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

There’s a few Teams would like to sign a gating tart as good as Lawson though.

No arguments there but to argue he isnt one is idiotic at best 

[Jonnybegood]

Just watched the stream again , well done Alfie on your heat 14 win . Top man !

[LisaColette]

24 minutes ago, Jonnybegood said:

Just watched the stream again , well done Alfie on your heat 14 win . Top man !

Apart from the fact he came third! Unlucky lol. He should have stayed low on the inside to block Drew and Ben. 

[SteveLyric2]

PIRATES charger Richard Lawson felt he was “wrongly disqualified” after being excluded following a frightening crash involving Plymouth’s Michael Palm Toft on Wednesday.

An ambulance was called on track during the 45-45 draw between the sides at Wimborne Road after Dane Palm Toft’s bike had reared up on bend four during heat seven, while he and Lawson were battling for the lead.

Lawson had already passed Kyle Howarth during the heat and attempted to dive under Palm Toft, before the Dane took out two panels of air fence while being flung up into the air.

Thankfully, Palm Toft was able to walk away from the nasty spill. He was withdrawn from the meeting with a suspected shoulder injury.

Giving his take on the incident, Lawson told Pirates’ website: “I haven't actually seen the replay of the incident but after turn three he (Palm Toft) took a glance and I felt like he had seen me and knew where I was going.

“And I wasn't going to take him straight to the fence but he ran a bit out wide and mistimed the dirt and he got out of control.

“I feel like there was no contact. I can't be certain of that but, if there was, it was while he was out of control.

“So, for me I believe I was wrongly disqualified and I just wish the referee would have taken a look at the replay before he made his decision.”

Speaking on the centre green post-meeting, Whitehaven-born Lawson added: “Obviously I am not trying to take people out and I don’t want to see anybody injured but he (Palm Toft) is not very happy. His wife’s not very happy.

“But that’s speedway.”

(Taken from today's Bournemouth Echo)

[lewy]

3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

PIRATES charger Richard Lawson felt he was “wrongly disqualified” after being excluded following a frightening crash involving Plymouth’s Michael Palm Toft on Wednesday.

An ambulance was called on track during the 45-45 draw between the sides at Wimborne Road after Dane Palm Toft’s bike had reared up on bend four during heat seven, while he and Lawson were battling for the lead.

Lawson had already passed Kyle Howarth during the heat and attempted to dive under Palm Toft, before the Dane took out two panels of air fence while being flung up into the air.

Thankfully, Palm Toft was able to walk away from the nasty spill. He was withdrawn from the meeting with a suspected shoulder injury.

Giving his take on the incident, Lawson told Pirates’ website: “I haven't actually seen the replay of the incident but after turn three he (Palm Toft) took a glance and I felt like he had seen me and knew where I was going.

“And I wasn't going to take him straight to the fence but he ran a bit out wide and mistimed the dirt and he got out of control.

“I feel like there was no contact. I can't be certain of that but, if there was, it was while he was out of control.

“So, for me I believe I was wrongly disqualified and I just wish the referee would have taken a look at the replay before he made his decision.”

Speaking on the centre green post-meeting, Whitehaven-born Lawson added: “Obviously I am not trying to take people out and I don’t want to see anybody injured but he (Palm Toft) is not very happy. His wife’s not very happy.

“But that’s speedway.”

(Taken from today's Bournemouth Echo)

Lawson is hardly going to admit he took mpt out is he ,but I seem to recall he was less than happy when a similar incident occurred earlier this season when he finished in the fence  but obviously as our track isn't as fast as Wimborne Road the impact with the fence was alot less. As they say that's speedway . Massive dent to the pirates ego though not being able to beat a depleted gladiators team are we becoming the noisy neighbours, no not really we're just making up the numbers . imagine if gilkes and barker was fit!!!!

[LisaColette]

6 minutes ago, lewy said:

Lawson is hardly going to admit he took mpt out is he ,but I seem to recall he was less than happy when a similar incident occurred earlier this season when he finished in the fence  but obviously as our track isn't as fast as Wimborne Road the impact with the fence was alot less. As they say that's speedway . Massive dent to the pirates ego though not being able to beat a depleted gladiators team are we becoming the noisy neighbours, no not really we're just making up the numbers . imagine if gilkes and barker was fit!!!!

If I remember correctly, Gilkes struggled at Poole last time? Which was surprising as he was on really good form at the time. I'll let you have the Barker one though as normally he is good at Poole.