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Poole Pirates Vs Plymouth Gladiators 22 June


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I don’t know how Poole fans feel but the team does seem to be a unbalanced unit.They were very unfortunate on losing the very promising Basso but for me there biggest mistake was not retaining Hume.Now Glasgow are reaping the benefit of Hume’s year at Poole  going back to the team things could still turn they have some very good riders maybe a spark from something will change things.

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2 hours ago, Trackrat said:

Poole in cheating scandal.....Who knew.

Can always rely on old Trackprat to post utter nonsense.  Well done son, you've surpassed yourself on this occasion :t:

And fair play to the Gladiators, had us on the ropes most of the meeting.  It's also great to see Drew back on form, but I must say the Cook bros. are beginning to be a bit of a concern...

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1 minute ago, chris4gillian said:

Can always rely on old Trackprat to post utter nonsense.  Well done son, you've surpassed yourself on this occasion :t:

And fair play to the Gladiators, had us on the ropes most of the meeting.  It's also great to see Drew back on form, but I must say the Cook bros. are beginning to be a bit of a concern...

Can always rely on you to bite & call names. :D

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11 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

Prediction.....Poole to lower their overall team average in time for the Play-Offs and then sign a stronger reserve to replace Ablitt ???

At 2.5 points over they will struggle to achieve that.

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10 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

Does the gating tart have to knock them off to pass?

The gating tart as you call him had already passed Howarth in the race he took out MPT and in a later race passed Hans so that doesn't sound like he has to knock off anyone to pass. He didn't knock off Bowtell. 

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19 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

Does the gating tart have to knock them off to pass?

Another clueless post(er).  Lawson made a number of clean passes.  However, hard racing often leads to sticky end and it was very unfortunate that on this occasion it was for MPT.

This is Lawson's version of things (extract taken from article on www.poole-speedway.com):

"I haven't actually seen the replay of the incident but after turn three he (Palm-Toft) took a glance and I felt like he had seen me and knew where I was going. And I wasn't going to take him straight to the fence but he ran a bit out wide and mistimed the dirt and he got out of control. I feel like there was no contact but I can't be certain of that but if there was it was while he was out of control, so for me I believe I was wrongly disqualified and I just wish the referee would have taken a look at the replay before he made his decision but he wouldn't and that just really wound me up and I was determined to get my own back in any way I could."

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20 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

The gating tart as you call him had already passed Howarth in the race he took out MPT and in a later race passed Hans so that doesn't sound like he has to knock off anyone to pass. He didn't knock off Bowtell. 

bowtell could have easily gone  down and lawson would have been excluded

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19 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

Another clueless post(er).  Lawson made a number of clean passes.  However, hard racing often leads to sticky end and it was very unfortunate that on this occasion it was for MPT.

This is Lawson's version of things (extract taken from article on www.poole-speedway.com):

"I haven't actually seen the replay of the incident but after turn three he (Palm-Toft) took a glance and I felt like he had seen me and knew where I was going. And I wasn't going to take him straight to the fence but he ran a bit out wide and mistimed the dirt and he got out of control. I feel like there was no contact but I can't be certain of that but if there was it was while he was out of control, so for me I believe I was wrongly disqualified and I just wish the referee would have taken a look at the replay before he made his decision but he wouldn't and that just really wound me up and I was determined to get my own back in any way I could."

Not sure about the "clueless" part but as excuses goes it wasnt my fault gunvnor,just a shame the ref felt otherwise!

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3 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

I was determined to get my own back in any way I could that says it all . Lewy is right some Poole posters are distinctly absent from the forum at the moment .

if you read the  posts properly you know why steve was not there:t:

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9 hours ago, Doners123 said:

So where do we start with plymouths bad luck…..

barker 2 nights before the meeting getting injured 

Lawson fencing MPT

Lawson nearly fencing Bowtell

The 5-1 in heat 14

come on let’s be real here your boys would have taken one helluva beating today had they not took out MPT. 
 

Look at little old Plymouth competing with the “big boys” 

and with the commentary team plus others moaning about the fact we use Guests for our number one ………Which funnily enough we had lined up before last season even finished…….. who was that and who poached riders….. shall we go there with cook as well or ……….

Not to mention Plymouth using Howarth as a guest for Barker instead of Kennet, who they have been using a guest for all season, so Howarth could take the r/r ride, if Poole had pulled that stunt this thread would have been all about poole cheating 

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9 hours ago, Doners123 said:

So where do we start with plymouths bad luck…..

barker 2 nights before the meeting getting injured 

Lawson fencing MPT

Lawson nearly fencing Bowtell

The 5-1 in heat 14

come on let’s be real here your boys would have taken one helluva beating today had they not took out MPT. 
 

Look at little old Plymouth competing with the “big boys” 

and with the commentary team plus others moaning about the fact we use Guests for our number one ………Which funnily enough we had lined up before last season even finished…….. who was that and who poached riders….. shall we go there with cook as well or ……….

After his guest appearances last season, Cook was only riding for one club this season 

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14 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Not to mention Plymouth using Howarth as a guest for Barker instead of Kennet, who they have been using a guest for all season, so Howarth could take the r/r ride, if Poole had pulled that stunt this thread would have been all about poole cheating 

Cheating is breaking the law or gtting someone to change a law for the benefit of some not all!

What Gary May did in declaring Howarth to replace Barker and not Kennett was completley within the Rules of the Sport and had any Team Manager not spotted that option then frankly they shouldn't be Team Managing.

Maybe Poole fans are too used to see their Team hammering the opposition and when they don't hammer the opposition having the parallel univese write up from Shovlar to ease their worries, a bit like the worst of the Daily Mail.

Having watched the stream as a complete neutral, I felt that Lawson was dangerous in fencing MPT (in fairness unusual for Lawson), hard on Bowtell and Bowtell could have sandbagged and got lawson excluded (so credit to Bowtell0 ; and the Heat 14 verdict on the line is unforgivable really.

Poole will probably strengthen before the play offs and injuries and lack of suitable replacements will ultimately hinder Plymouth but certainly last night lady luck smiled on Poole and hit Plymouth right in the goolies! 

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43 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

I was determined to get my own back in any way I could that says it all . Lewy is right some Poole posters are distinctly absent from the forum at the moment .

If I've read it right he meant after is exclusion, and therefore winning the final race to get a draw.

It would be good to see a video clip of the incident as most people agree that Richard Lawson isn't that type of rider at all.

15 minutes ago, Arthur54 said:

Not to mention Plymouth using Howarth as a guest for Barker instead of Kennet, who they have been using a guest for all season, so Howarth could take the r/r ride, if Poole had pulled that stunt this thread would have been all about poole cheating 

It's not a stunt though is it, its perfectly within the rules  :blink:

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7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

If I've read it right he meant after is exclusion, and therefore winning the final race to get a draw.

It would be good to see a video clip of the incident as most people agree that Richard Lawson isn't that type of rider at all.

It's not a stunt though is it, its perfectly within the rules  :blink:

Arthur is not the sharpest tool in the bag:rofl:

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