IainB Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, The H Man said: Ellis gate, no con intended, all concerned hoped it would be for the season but logistically for both parties and financially for the club it couldn't carry on, no hard feelings from either party and his replacement has scored well in the majority of the meetings, so I don't think anyone was intentionally conned, sorry if you feel that you were. Did I hear correctly the other night on the FreeSports Swedish coverage that Adam Ellis has been binned off by his Swedish team... Perhaps Brummies may be interested in re-signing him again if that is the case Edited June 16, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 11 hours ago, Mike0310 said: Well done Birmingham I still feel we should have wonthis one though. Not really; it was only the heat leaders who kept Plymouth in the match, and Birmingham should never have given away two of the 5-1s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Col said: Ok meeting I suppose, decent close racing early on but became processional. Of the three Gladiators exclusions the only one I'm convinced was the correct decision was the second, Pearson got to the first turn ahead & clamped Morley. Morley took a nasty tumble locking up hard. The other two I didn't have a great view of... instinct would suggest Andersen deserved to go, Bowtell didn't. Thanks to Josh Pickering for making the meeting a contest. Why you wanted to go off gate 2 in heat 15 I do not know! Question is did he pass Nicholls in heat 13 before Nicholls bike packed up? The only Brummie that can be satisfied with that performance is Neilsen. Ok bet he feels rough! two falls & a push for a point Shanes & Morris were down on their modus operandi of 2021, Sedgeman was poor - gated once, had 4 laps to pass a visiting reserve but never looked likely to do so. Wells was anonymous. Pearson gave a point away in heat 2 but can't expect much more. Barker clearly knows the quickest way around PB still. Andersen scored more than he probably deserved. Nicholls was good value, expect more from MPT. Bowtell & Morley did enough, Coles wasn't too far off the pace but never looked like scoring. I won't be coming again.until I don't have to drive to Wednesbury to get on.the M6! should have been a lot more comfortable than it was and a couple of gate and go 5-1's as the track slickened up got the Gladiators back in to it. Barker was excellent have to say. Credit to the trackstaff on a very hot day for doing as well as anyone possibly could with the track, unlike last season it's clear that they are 100% trying and invested in some kit and that's all we can ask. Hopefully when schools holidays come we can get a few hundred more in to just boost things up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, mikebv said: To be fair... After a slow start to the guesting game (for him), Scott has now started to come to the party.... Maybe the TV work has got in the way a bit "early doors"? Hopefully he can now make up for a bit of lost time.. Maybe now Scott is back in the guesting saddle it will encourage more riders to join in which can only add variety, as we dont see enough of some of these riders sometimes... Some of which seem quite happy it would appear to ride for no more than just a paltry six or seven teams all year... It does make a bit of a mockery of the sport when only a few riders guest, so its important that the likes of Scott start to contribute more to this wonderfully derived system... After all. It helps makes UK Speedway what it is... Roll forward to September, may be October and Guests Edward Kennett and Adam Ellis combine for a last heat 5-1 to win a famous Play off Final victory for Scunthorpe at Poole 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 3:03 PM, uk_martin said: That's what I'm not sure about. The fans would certainly like 7 on their own riders every meeting. But is that Rogers's way of getting into the play-off's? Vissing hasn't got many competitive miles on the clock these past 3 years, and he's not getting any younger. Given that a guest would be up to a 8.92 average, that would be so advantageous to have if Vissing only rides to the ability of a 6 or 7 point rider when he does make an appearance. 12 hours ago, The H Man said: Vissing gate, there were/are hardly any heat leaders wishing to ride in the Championship, Claus was one who was. Danish clubs squad system was always a bit of a risk but one the club had to take to with no other options readily available and season rapidly approaching, be delighted to hear what you'd have done differently?. Ellis gate, no con intended, all concerned hoped it would be for the season but logistically for both parties and financially for the club it couldn't carry on, no hard feelings from either party and his replacement has scored well in the majority of the meetings, so I don't think anyone was intentionally conned, sorry if you feel that you were. The Vissing situation was foreseen by many people in the pre-season chat in the forums. With SO long being spent "checking fixture lists" prior to the signing, I can only conclude that this is no accident. And as for what I'd have done differently, I'd have made sure that some last year's riders were paid in full and on time so that they weren't in such a hurry to leave the club. Maybe then, some more options would have been available to choose from. As for Ellisgate, again, plenty of people have expressed their grievances on here. No need to repeat it all again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, iainb said: Did I hear correctly the other night on the FreeSports Swedish coverage that Adam Ellis has been binned off by his Swedish team... Perhaps Brummies may be interested in re-signing him again if that is the case Didn't think you could re-sign a rider once he'd gone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Didn't think you could re-sign a rider once he'd gone?! Rule 1 in the Speedway supporter rulebook Any rule in the rulebook can be manipulated in the best interests of the sport 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: Rule 1 in the Speedway supporter rulebook Any rule in the rulebook can be manipulated in the best interests of the sport Should that read..... in the best interests of 'Poole' ? ..... just teasing Poole fans! I'm not jealous at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, iainb said: Did I hear correctly the other night on the FreeSports Swedish coverage that Adam Ellis has been binned off by his Swedish team... Perhaps Brummies may be interested in re-signing him again if that is the case Couldn't think of anything worse! Ellis can sling his hook as far as I'm concerned! Can't be doing with 'greed'! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Should that read..... in the best interests of 'Poole' ? ..... just teasing Poole fans! I'm not jealous at all Haha. Always in the best interests of Poole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Haha. Always in the best interests of Poole You know I'm only joking Lisa just 'firing' up the anti-Poole brigade (which I'm not a member of ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, uk_martin said: The Vissing situation was foreseen by many people in the pre-season chat in the forums. With SO long being spent "checking fixture lists" prior to the signing, I can only conclude that this is no accident. And as for what I'd have done differently, I'd have made sure that some last year's riders were paid in full and on time so that they weren't in such a hurry to leave the club. Maybe then, some more options would have been available to choose from. As for Ellisgate, again, plenty of people have expressed their grievances on here. No need to repeat it all again. You can’t blame the new owners for previous debts Martin and as far as I’m aware Riss, Harris & Castagna have no issues at all the new owners. when negotiations commenced with Vissing he had no guarantee of a Danish spot as he was part of squad. Of course it’s not ideal but who else was there available to sign. i could post a long list of riders that were contacted but decided they didn’t want to or couldn’t commit to UK racing in 2022! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) Firstly well done to the track staff as it had been a Hot day and there was little or no dust to contend with, secondly I enjoyed the meeting with some good racing mainly provided by Josh Pickering who was undoubtebly man of the meeting, I guess there are two thoughts to the result in that did Birmingham win it or Plymouth lose it ?, IMO and its only my opinion Plymouth lost it and here why I think that; Ht 4 Morley given as fell when it should have been all 4 back and Morley was good for a point in that race, Ht 13 Nicholls Ef when good for at least a point in that race thats my reasoning in my opinion, now the riders, I have to admit to being disappointed with the performance of Alfie Bowtell and Palm Toft, Ben Morley had whats best described as an up and down meeting, Scott was always in the mix of things, and Ben Barker couldnt really have done much more, Hans Andersson was steady, For the Brummies, As Iv already said Josh Pickering was man of the meeting, Ricky Wells aint a No1 whoever he rides for, Stefan rode well for his 8 points, and Sedgy was poor and seems to be a gating tart, James Shanes scored half decent but nowt more than he should have, Ashley scored half a dozen but hasnt really kicked on over the past few seasons. The crowd I would estimate as around 600 or 700 if Im being generous this on a lovely summers evening made up of aprox 250/300 in the upstairs bar and the remainder outside and downstairs, I and my better half availed myself of the offer to Cradley/Coventry fans but we simply couldnt justify 2 of us paying full price for a nights Speedway especially as she isnt really interested but came along as we had been in Town earlier and agreed I would go with her if she would come with me, so I guess £20 for the 2 of us, which from Brums perspective this Is better than full price for 1. Junction 7 being closed on the way home was a pain in the backside which meant going on to Walsall to get back to Cradley Heath (as if Petrol aint expensive enough) had I have known I would have gone the alternative route past the Baggies ground. Let me explain why 2 of us paying full price cant be justified by us, The wife wanted to eat at a particular restaurant in Town (Brum) drove to the Hawthorns Tram and parked up, return Tram fare for 2 = £8-20, Food for 2 = £26-00 (included 10% discount for cash), entrance to Speedway x 2 = £20-00 plus 2 x J20,s and whatever fuel we used getting there and back so all in all thats about £60 ish which is fair enough for an evening out, but if we paid full price for the Speedway that would have pushed it up to around £80 which some might say is fine but thats our weeks budget for entertainment so it comes down to personal choice, and when the footy season starts that usually gets the budget. Edited June 16, 2022 by heathen52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: You know I'm only joking Lisa just 'firing' up the anti-Poole brigade (which I'm not a member of ) They definitely don't need firing up! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 I’ll keep quiet Lisa honest lol.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Couldn't think of anything worse! Ellis can sling his hook as far as I'm concerned! Can't be doing with 'greed'! I think you will find Ellis is blameless. Offered a 28 day contract which he honoured plus some. His schedule doesn’t allow for championship once all his other leagues start. he got you out of a muddle in my opinion. It was the promotion who were economical with the truth that caused the fuss. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike0310 said: I’ll keep quiet Lisa honest lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Talking of Poole haters whatever happened to Gavan, the exchanges between him/her and Starman were legendary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 19 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Couldn't think of anything worse! Ellis can sling his hook as far as I'm concerned! Can't be doing with 'greed'! Don't believe everything you read on the internet, after all speedway fans and even more so, promoters and managers are such a reliable source of information 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, ekimba said: Talking of Poole haters whatever happened to Gavan, the exchanges between him/her and Starman were legendary He was on here last week when we lost to Leicester! So prob just waiting for the next home loss Edited June 17, 2022 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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