StevePark Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gaz said: Well that was embarrassing!! Been going 39 years and can’t remember ever seeing us lose by over 60 points at home until the Poole result last season, but now it’s twice in 2 weeks. Maybe they need someone to advise them because anyone who thought bringing in poor Jack Smith in was a good idea is so bad it’s ridiculous. Yes we needed riders but if could not find a rider in this country, we had to try unknown Dane, swede or whoever to at least get wrighty back to reserve which makes us stronger all round. I totally agree about we need to find new track, Rob wanted that at the start but apparently now doesn’t, so we carry on at brough where no rider wants to ride apparently and are stuck to the same race night. Onto the Poole match we go…. All you want to see is a bit of fight and that was a disgrace tonight! I don't think it's a case of he doesn't, it's a case of they can't find anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Was just watching on BSN and 4 of the riders giving up at first bend, even when leading. Had to switch it off after 9 heats as embarrassing to watch, such inept display by riders getting paid to supposedly entertain the paying crowd. Do the guests get paid for points or just appearance fee, maybe that explains lack of interest from both of them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, StevePark said: I don't think it's a case of he doesn't, it's a case of they can't find anywhere. There were places mentioned and ideas at the talk in when thought we were closing but Rob didn’t want to move from brough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, StevePark said: I don't think it's a case of he doesn't, it's a case of they can't find anywhere. He publicly stated he doesn't having previously said that was his plan. Of course he probably had to say that. But you're correct regardless. If you can find some council owned land it's probably earmarked for housing. If it isn't it'll be next to housing. Even if you did find a plot which is otherwise unused you'd need to persuade the local authority that having a speedway team will benefit the local economy. Good luck with that on the basis it attracts a handful of visiting supporters for about 15 weekends of the year. Alternatively you find a private plot of land and agree terms with the owner presuming they can't sell if for housing. Then you have to invest heavily in building the track and facilities. Interesting to see how the people behind the new Workington track have achieved what they have but I'm guessing the land owner has an interest in the sport? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, marko said: I am please however to see Jason Edwards going so well, had Arena Essex not gone, I am sure he would be riding for us still. Line of succession. Eastbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 I can't see the Diamonds lasting the season at this rate. As for a new site - with little or zero help from the local council you are fighting an uphill battle. Noise pollution etc etc - You need deep , pockets to offer a sports complex 5g football pitch on infield. Community area or gym. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hackett said: I can't see the Diamonds lasting the season at this rate. As for a new site - with little or zero help from the local council you are fighting an uphill battle. Noise pollution etc etc - You need deep , pockets to offer a sports complex 5g football pitch on infield. Community area or gym. Wonder how deep Robs pockets are tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, StevePark said: I don't think it's a case of he doesn't, it's a case of they can't find anywhere. Sorry to disagree Steve but there were three viable sites and one deffinite front runner at Seaton Burn and with support from the Local Authouity however ya man objected to one of the people who was prepared to put money in and his huberous got the better of him (and just for Mala... Huberous means arrogance and excessive pride) Pride comes before a fall and he was offered all the help and support he could have wanted but Billy Big Balls wanted to do it all himself... so now he's reaping the rewards... Two humpings in following weekends how embarrassing is that and Leicester put Edwards in at the end to give them a chance otherwise it would have been 26 - 64. Furthermore riders don't want to come to Newcastle because they talk to each other and there is an impression that they don't get paid on time and also that the club isn't on a firm footing and is continually on the brink of collapse with the ramifications of that being they "don't get paid" if the clud goes pop and I know that's not ya man's fault "per se" but he ain't doing anything much to change perceptions... Oh and come back George Congreve son because regardless of what you were told it's definitely not your fault bonny lad... All very sad... Regards THJ Edited June 12, 2022 by TotallyHonestJohn Edited for accuracy 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Afraid speedway is a dying to virtually dead sport. I started going in the early 80's and there were about 35 tracks in the UK then and maybe 250+ riders competing in the UK at all levels. Now we are down to what, 17 tracks in the top 2 divisions and only 6 in the top division which is desperate really. Ok there were the heady days but in the all the years since I can't remember any period where there was such a dearth of riders competing. Back in the those days there was no doubling up either. These days when you watch a match you almost feel it's like a random selection of riders v another random selection of riders. We don't even see the volume of overseas riders coming over like they used to. Even going back say 10 years the decline is alarming. I have no idea how you solve that problem. Maybe training tracks and development programmes is the way but that should have happened years ago as it obviously takes time for anything like that to bear fruition. The bottom line is it's a very dangerous sport and there is no money in it unless you get to the very top. Perhaps that wasn't the case back then; youngsters have so much choice now. Newcastle's current plight is a result of this problem. It's easy to criticise Rob and the promotion but they are obviously desperate for new riders but even with such a small number of teams there are so few if any available. Honestly fear the worst for the sport. Wouldn't surprise me if in 5 years time we are down to 10 teams or less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 I don’t know what goes on in the pits but I couldn’t understand why they gave James Wright a tac sub ride in heat 11 therefore depriving Max Clegg of his R/R ride when they easily could of put Wright out in heat 14 as a T/S … Wouldn’t of made any difference unless Max refused a R/R !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Even the long burger van que lines have gone now.. is it a case of people just can't afford to come nowadays with all the huge fuel bill hikes as even with the under 16 free policy it's hard to get people to come & watch especially with a team that isn't producing on track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 It’s to do with the team being poor……pure and simple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said: Even the long burger van que lines have gone now.. That’s because after you have been people think there is nowt left 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Sorry to disagree Steve but there were three viable sites and one deffinite front runner at Seaton Burn and with support from the Local Authouity however ya man objected to one of the people who was prepared to put money in and his huberous got the better of him (and just for Mala... Huberous means arrogance and excessive pride) Pride comes before a fall and he was offered all the help and support he could have wanted but Billy Big Balls wanted to do it all himself... so now he's reaping the rewards... Two humpings in following weekends how embarrassing is that and Leicester put Edwards in at the end to give them a chance otherwise it would have been 26 - 64. Furthermore riders don't want to come to Newcastle because they talk to each other and there is an impression that they don't get paid on time and also that the club isn't on a firm footing and is continually on the brink of collapse with the ramifications of that being they "don't get paid" if the clud goes pop and I know that's not ya man's fault "per se" but he ain't doing anything much to change perceptions... Oh and come back George Congreve son because regardless of what you were told it's definitely not your fault bonny lad... All very sad... Regards THJ Thj, do you think if the worst happens there will still be the same will as last year to try and set something up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Not often u see the home promoter cooking the burgers,ricky wells didnt look interested,complin tries but he cant gate and your never going to pass anyone going as wide as he does.a plea to riders plz leave your helmets off on parade and dont move off till all riders introuced ,and to the ref,wright moves race stopped gets a warning does it again goes off 15 yds 2 leicester riders move race carries on but then told on a warning after race,surely if they are seen to move have a restart,when your down your down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 On the plus side had a good crac with " bobby beaton" who was in the crowd wonder if he still has a bike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Geoff you are very brave (stupid ) to be able to afford to travel to the north east with the cost of fuel. You could have watched it on BSN since been labeled a horror show !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, robbieblackadder fan club said: Thj, do you think if the worst happens there will still be the same will as last year to try and set something up No buddy I don't unfortunately... I think all that goodwill has been lost and the momentum that was gained out of the adversity that was last season has totally gone down the pan... Grant should have rode that wave of support instead of trying to do the King Canute routine and hold back the tide... I still think he is the best man to run the club and one of the few who could make it pay... or at least make a profit where all else failed... he just needs his "passion" reined in a bit and channelled into the right direction... However he wants to do it his way and made that quite clear... (like a spoilt kid who is running the place into the ground just like the previous man who he so despises) therefore he needs to get on with it and good luck to him... it will either sink or swim but I dont think it is a lost cause yet... but is heading that way fast... Regards THJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, geoff100 said: a plea to riders plz leave your helmets off on parade Also like a football manager and player has to speak to the media after a match I think ( unless you have 2 on the trot ) a rider who wins a race should be made to take a victory lap so the fans can show their appreciation 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorRacing Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Is that land at seaton burn still avaiable? Is it the one next to the retail unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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