racers and royals Posted July 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dub said: What tv channel is this being shown on? Apologies if I have missed it. Cheers For the umpteenth time it is on Discovery + sport and entertainment and Eurosport player- streams will be posted just before start time of 6pm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, racers and royals said: For the umpteenth time it is on Discovery + sport and entertainment and Eurosport player- streams will be posted just before start time of 6pm Thanks,I think... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, iainb said: Year Venue Pos 1 2 3 4 5 2005 Czechoslovakia 1st Janusz Kołodziej Krystian Klecha Marcin Rempała Krzysztof Kasprzak Karol Ząbik 2006 Poland 1st Krzysztof Buczkowski Adrian Miedziński Paweł Hlib Karol Ząbik Paweł Miesiąc 2007 Germany 1st Karol Zabik Pawel Hlib Krzysztof Buczkowski Mateusz Szczepaniak Adrian Gomólski 2008 Denmark 1st Michał Mitko Artur Mroczka Grzegorz Zengota Maciej Janowski Daniel Pytel 2009 Poland 1st Dawid Lampart Maciej Janowski Grzegorz Zengota Przemysław Pawlicki Artur Mroczka 2010 UK 3rd Maciej Janowski Patryk Dudek Artur Mroczka Przemyslaw Pawlick Szymon Wozniak 2011 Russia 5th Patryk Dudek Przemysław Pawlicki Maciej Janowski Bartosz Zmarzlik Piotr Pawlicki 2012 Poland 1st Patryk Dudek Maciej Janowski Tobiasz Musielak Przemyslaw Pawlick Bartosz Zmarzlik 2013 Czechia 2nd Patryk Dudek Paweł Przedpełski Piotr Pawlicki Bartosz Zmarzlik 2014 Denmark 1st Bartosz Zmarzlik Piotr Pawlicki Kacper Gomolski Pawel Przedpelski 2015 Australia 1st Maksym Drabik Piotr Pawlicki Bartosz Zmarzlik Pawel Przedpelski 2016 Sweden 1st Krystian Pieszczek Bartosz Zmarzlik Pawel Przedpelski Bartosz Smektala Daniel Kaczmarek 2017 Poland 1st Bartosz Smektala Kacper Woryna Maksym Drabik Dominik Kubera Rafal Karczmarz 2018 Germany 1st Rafal Karczmarz Daniel Kaczmarek Maksym Drabik Bartosz Smektala Wiktor Lampart 2019 UK 1st Maksym Drabik Dominik Kubera Wiktor Lampart Bartosz Smektala Michal Gruchalski 2020 Germany 1st Wiktor Lampart Norbert Krakowiak Viktor Trofimov Jakub Miskowiak Dominik Kubera 2021 Poland 1st Jakub Miskowiak Wiktor Lampart Mateusz Cierniak Like you say dominant... they must be wondering where it's all going wrong at senior level It’s hardly going wrong at Senior level,Zmarzlik twice world Champion,Poles done well in World Team Cup for its last few seasons so they changed the format to try to even things up.The last 2 SON they were finalists,Janowski falling in final probably cost them the win!.Will certainly be an interesting Final this year.May the best Team win.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Find it hard not to laugh when you consider there are more overseas/foreign riders competing in the British Leagues than there are are actual Brits. Really say something about the decline of British Speedway and the power of foreign cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s hardly going wrong at Senior level,Zmarzlik twice world Champion,Poles done well in World Team Cup for its last few seasons so they changed the format to try to even things up.The last 2 SON they were finalists,Janowski falling in final probably cost them the win!.Will certainly be an interesting Final this year.May the best Team win.! Yeah, but if you ain't first you may as well be last. Their record at senior team level wasn't that great outside of Poland even before the format was changed and only 4 World Individual champions ever! Not great with all those junior championships under their belt. With the amount of money that is pumped into the sport in Poland you'd think somebody would be asking questions. What they have undoubtedly done well at is generating enough home grown talent to make their Leagues sustainable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Janowski giving up Ekstraliga isn't going to happen, maybe moving away from Wroclaw would. He rides Elitserin every year and spent much longer in British leagues than his contemporaries - several years at Kings Lynn, Swindon & Poole. Did Zmarzlik ever complete a heat in his brief Brummies stint? Piotr Pawlicki did one season with Wolves. Dudek has never ridden here. Janowski (2.293) and Dudek (2.351) average more in Ekstrloga than Kubera (2.094) and don't have their pick of heats unlike Kubera does being regularly at the farcical #8. Drabik's average has plummeted to 19th after getting an early GP Wildcard for topping the averages back then. Interestingly Lambert is considerably higher the the Ekstraliga averages (9th) than Woffinden (17th). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, iainb said: I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days? The Poles wouldn't want to disrupt their Sundays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, iainb said: I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days? You won’t upset me because i have had many daft questions this week and yours is up there with the daftest. The last comp we had different venues for semi’s(Daugavpils ) and the final in Belle Vue. This is a new concept 2 semi’s and the new U21 Son plus the final all in one place- think they don’t want overkill of 2 senior finals and who can blame them !!! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Col said: Janowski giving up Ekstraliga isn't going to happen, maybe moving away from Wroclaw would. He rides Elitserin every year and spent much longer in British leagues than his contemporaries - several years at Kings Lynn, Swindon & Poole. Of course he's not, most unlikely just like his chances of becoming World Champion. He seems far too laid back whenever i see him interviewed or in the pits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, racers and royals said: You won’t upset me because i have had many daft questions this week and yours is up there with the daftest. The last comp we had different venues for semi’s(Daugavpils ) and the final in Belle Vue. This is a new concept 2 semi’s and the new U21 Son plus the final all in one place- think they don’t want overkill of 2 senior finals and who can blame them !!! You're such a grump 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Poles in Elitserin. Zmarzlik 2,839, Piotr Pawlicki 2,320 Wozniak 2,091, Kubera 2,078 Dudek 2.068 Woryna 1,984 Drabik 1,971 Smektala 1.954 Janowski 1.901 Przedpelski 1.836 Przemyslaw Pawlicki 1,776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 The Poles win in Poland by using oversized engines etc, bikes being wheeled out of the pits and replaced with compliant engines towards the end of meetings. It's well known amongst the Team GB mechanics but nothing is done about it. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, SpeedwayTShirts said: The Poles win in Poland by using oversized engines etc, bikes being wheeled out of the pits and replaced with compliant engines towards the end of meetings. It's well known amongst the Team GB mechanics but nothing is done about it. You win the most ridiculous post of the week so far hands down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Col said: Poles in Elitserin. Zmarzlik 2,839, Piotr Pawlicki 2,320 Wozniak 2,091, Kubera 2,078 Dudek 2.068 Woryna 1,984 Drabik 1,971 Smektala 1.954 Janowski 1.901 Przedpelski 1.836 Przemyslaw Pawlicki 1,776 And for comparison only one Swede (and it is not Lindgren!) above 1.800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, arnieg said: And for comparison only one Swede (and it is not Lindgren!) above 1.800 I think they are in BIG trouble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levybydg Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Hi to all. I have question to guys from GB,did GB menager said anything about tactics in semi final? I mean are Brits going to rotate and all 3 riders will ride 4 times? Btw. watch out on Palovaara tonight,he is in great form last few weeks. Edited July 28, 2022 by levybydg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, stewmac said: You win the most ridiculous post of the week so far hands down. I'm not saying it happens worldwide but in their own back yard it does and I've had that first hand from a Team GB mechanic who highlighted it at the time to Armando Castagna who said he could do nothing about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SpeedwayTShirts said: The Poles win in Poland by using oversized engines etc, bikes being wheeled out of the pits and replaced with compliant engines towards the end of meetings. It's well known amongst the Team GB mechanics but nothing is done about it. While it’s a given that advantages are sort by all riders of all nations, over sized engines especially in Poland isn’t one of them and especially at FIM level, another reason is a tuner like kowalski or gravesen ain’t going to risk his business by cheating in a school boy way and then even if they were stupid enough to do that and over sized engine doesn’t automatically mean a faster bike in speedway Edited July 28, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, levybydg said: Hi to all. I have question to guys from GB,did GB menager said anything about tactics in semi final? I mean are Brits going to rotate and all 3 riders will ride 4 times? Btw. watch out on Palovaara tonight,he is in great form last few weeks. Certainly all 3 will get rides- not sure it`s a given on 4 each- neither Poland or the Aussies did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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