IainB Posted May 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Skodaman said: Is that a complaint? It's not bad if you're interested in both matches... unfortunately I have zero interest in the 2nd match 14 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Less than the equivalent at Berwick on Saturday night. Ah... but we've got another double header next week as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, iainb said: It's not bad if you're interested in both matches... unfortunately I have zero interest in the 2nd match Ah... but we've got another double header next week as well! Crikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, iainb said: It's not bad if you're interested in both matches... unfortunately I have zero interest in the 2nd match Serious question: Why? Surely the future wellbeing of your home town club lies in developing raw British talent. Why have you zero interest in an NDL match on your home track, featuring riders such as the Thompsons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Serious question: Why? Surely the future wellbeing of your home town club lies in developing raw British talent. Why have you zero interest in an NDL match on your home track, featuring riders such as the Thompsons? Because there's almost no chance of any of the cubs riders making it into the senior team, let's face it the Thompsons are beyond the level of NDL racing these days and I'm not naive enough to think for one moment that if their points average didn't fit that one or both of them would be shown the door in favour of strengthening the team. How long have Berwick been running a junior team? Who has graduated into your senior team? Leon Flint? He seems to have a decent future in front of him, the jury is still very much out with Kyle Bickley. And if any of them do make it to a sufficient standard they'll be off to greener pastures as soon as there's an opportunity to make some serious money. Dan Bewley, Robert Lambert If you want to follow your junior team, fair enough, absolutely no problem with that what so ever, just don't expect us all to have that same interest and being forced to pay extra admission to not watch them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, iainb said: Because there's almost no chance of any of the cubs riders making it into the senior team, let's face it the Thompsons are beyond the level of NDL racing these days and I'm not naive enough to think for one moment that if their points average didn't fit that one or both of them would be shown the door in favour of strengthening the team. How long have Berwick been running a junior team? Who has graduated into your senior team? Leon Flint? He seems to have a decent future in front of him, the jury is still very much out with Kyle Bickley. And if any of them do make it to a sufficient standard they'll be off to greener pastures as soon as there's an opportunity to make some serious money. Dan Bewley, Robert Lambert If you want to follow your junior team, fair enough, absolutely no problem with that what so ever, just don't expect us all to have that same interest and being forced to pay extra admission to not watch them Berwick's 2nd season in the NDL and you have mentioned Leon & Kyle. But watching the progress of local lad Mason Watson and 15 years old Ace Pijper, they could feature in the Bandits team in the future. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Serious question: Why? Surely the future wellbeing of your home town club lies in developing raw British talent. Why have you zero interest in an NDL match on your home track, featuring riders such as the Thompsons? The well being of your home town club is more assured (and probably cheaper and easier to deliver), by employing a No1 you will never use and instead use every other teams' riders... Seems to work well.... Personally, the cost could be prohibitive for those who are not interested in the NDL, but for those who are it could be real VFM... For me, 30 heats of Speedway do often drag and the tracks are often "bald" early into the second meeting, meaning the racing isnt great, hence the double headers dont engage me.. But, as I say, for the die hard devoted "club before sport fan", it could offer real value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Normski said: Berwick's 2nd season in the NDL and you have mentioned Leon & Kyle. But watching the progress of local lad Mason Watson and 15 years old Ace Pijper, they could feature in the Bandits team in the future. Come back to me in 5 years on those 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: The well being of your home town club is more assured (and probably cheaper and easier to deliver), by employing a No1 you will never use and instead use every other teams' riders... Seems to work well.... Personally, the cost could be prohibitive for those who are not interested in the NDL, but for those who are it could be real VFM... For me, 30 heats of Speedway do often drag and the tracks are often "bald" early into the second meeting, meaning the racing isnt great, hence the double headers dont engage me.. But, as I say, for the die hard devoted "club before sport fan", it could offer real value... Never going to happen unless a rule is introduced to include protected "home grown" riders in your team. 15 heats drag on at Leicester, 30 take an eternity! And the Leicester track is not conducive to great junior racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerfulPierre Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, iainb said: Come back to me in 5 years on those Never going to happen unless a rule is introduced to include protected "home grown" riders in your team. 15 heats drag on at Leicester, 30 take an eternity! And the Leicester track is not conducive to great junior racing If you don't think that Leicester's track is conducive to great junior racing, you should have been at Berwick for last years double header. A veritable dust bowl with minimal grading and more importantly, minimal watering all to get both matches done and (literally) dusted before their curfew. I do hope that they put a better show on this coming Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, PowerfulPierre said: If you don't think that Leicester's track is conducive to great junior racing, you should have been at Berwick for last years double header. A veritable dust bowl with minimal grading and more importantly, minimal watering all to get both matches done and (literally) dusted before their curfew. I do hope that they put a better show on this coming Saturday. Sounds like I dodged a bullet there... will you be returning on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, PowerfulPierre said: If you don't think that Leicester's track is conducive to great junior racing, you should have been at Berwick for last years double header. A veritable dust bowl with minimal grading and more importantly, minimal watering all to get both matches done and (literally) dusted before their curfew. I do hope that they put a better show on this coming Saturday. Interesting, but untrue. Reference to the referee's official report to the SCB on Berwick's double-header on June 5th last year -- endorsed by SCB Track Inspector Mick Bates, who was in attendance -- tells us that 30 heats (plus one re-run) were completed by 21.15, well ahead of the curfew. Dust? Yes, on what the report observes was a dry, sunny June evening, dust appeared after Heat 6, but was controlled. What you imply was a meeting being rushed through to meet a curfew was in fact a meeting of 31 starts which was briskly and efficiently presented. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 I'll be at Leicester for this one, Leicester double win on the cards & will be interesting to see how many supporters stay on for the NDL meeting. This car of 3 bods will be staying for both We support all levels of the sport 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 The track will be fine for the NDL meeting coz the tractor driver loves doing doughnuts on the bends! Talk about 'u spin me round round' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Forecast now looking great for this... should keep the dust down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Lion Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 1:42 PM, iainb said: Come back to me in 5 years on those Never going to happen unless a rule is introduced to include protected "home grown" riders in your team. 15 heats drag on at Leicester, 30 take an eternity! And the Leicester track is not conducive to great junior racing Have you actually been to a cubs meeting ? For someone who has “ no interest “ in junior racing but seems to know what the NDL meetings have been like at Leicester in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 6:21 PM, crescent girl said: Interesting, but untrue. Reference to the referee's official report to the SCB on Berwick's double-header on June 5th last year -- endorsed by SCB Track Inspector Mick Bates, who was in attendance -- tells us that 30 heats (plus one re-run) were completed by 21.15, well ahead of the curfew. Dust? Yes, on what the report observes was a dry, sunny June evening, dust appeared after Heat 6, but was controlled. What you imply was a meeting being rushed through to meet a curfew was in fact a meeting of 31 starts which was briskly and efficiently presented. It must have been the prevailing wind then because on the 3rd bend it looked like we had all been to the local tanning salon lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lenny Lion said: Have you actually been to a cubs meeting ? For someone who has “ no interest “ in junior racing but seems to know what the NDL meetings have been like at Leicester in 2022. I don't think I have claimed to know what the NDL meetings have been like at Leicester this season... maybe it would have been the ideal opportunity for the promotion to showcase what NDL racing is all about by pegging admission prices? I have not been to a Cubs meeting, I was going to sample what it was all about a few years back when the club ran a double header with Cradley as the opposition in the NDL, my thinking was that if I watched the best 2 NDL clubs in the league at the time face each other I'd be giving myself the best chance of seeing the best of what the NDL had to offer... Unfortunately the management were more preoccupied in the getting the tractor on the track rather than the bikes and it was ultimately rained off... it was the evening the club blocked me from Twitter because I was warning them there was a thunderstorm heading the way of the stadium. Unfortunately that opportunity for the club to showcase NDL racing to me was lost... and from what I've seen of the ability of "Junior" riders to get around the Leicester track, it's really not saying to me it'd be a must watch product... just my opinion, I'm glad you enjoy it though. Edited June 3, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Lion Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, iainb said: I don't think I have claimed to know what the NDL meetings have been like at Leicester this season... maybe it would have been the ideal opportunity for the promotion to showcase what NDL racing is all about by pegging admission prices? I have not been to a Cubs meeting, I was going to sample what it was all about a few years back when the club ran a double header with Cradley as the opposition in the NDL, my thinking was that if I watched the best 2 NDL clubs in the league at the time face each other I'd be giving myself the best chance of seeing the best of what the NDL had to offer... Unfortunately the management were more preoccupied in the getting the tractor on the track rather than the bikes and it was ultimately rained off... it was the evening the club blocked me from Twitter because I was warning them there was a thunderstorm heading the way of the stadium. Unfortunately that opportunity for the club to showcase NDL racing to me was lost... and from what I've seen of the ability of "Junior" riders to get around the Leicester track, it's really not saying to me it'd be a must watch product... just my opinion, I'm glad you enjoy it though. I merely asked the question because you said Leicester was not conductive to junior racing which i fail to understand how you can make that statement without actually ever watching a NDL meeting. These guys are not freshly starting out & can’t turn the bike they are all comfortable on a bike , admittedly the race times are maybe 2 or 3 seconds slower but for me the racing is closer, some of the better racing I have seen at Leicester so far in 2022 has been NDL because the teams are more even. Its also good to see the progress in riders like Mickie Simpson who may never make it to the top but the sport needs riders like Mickie who is 18 & could go onto be the next Simon Lambert.Sunday will cost you an extra £4 for 15 races which to me is a fair price for people like yourself who have never watched an NDL meeting. All i say stay give it ago , if you don’t like it then all you have lost is the cost of one of the horse burgers from the food wagon. As for the running of the meeting hopefully they will get on with it ….. but this is Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, Lenny Lion said: I merely asked the question because you said Leicester was not conductive to junior racing which i fail to understand how you can make that statement without actually ever watching a NDL meeting. These guys are not freshly starting out & can’t turn the bike they are all comfortable on a bike , admittedly the race times are maybe 2 or 3 seconds slower but for me the racing is closer, some of the better racing I have seen at Leicester so far in 2022 has been NDL because the teams are more even. Its also good to see the progress in riders like Mickie Simpson who may never make it to the top but the sport needs riders like Mickie who is 18 & could go onto be the next Simon Lambert.Sunday will cost you an extra £4 for 15 races which to me is a fair price for people like yourself who have never watched an NDL meeting. All i say stay give it ago , if you don’t like it then all you have lost is the cost of one of the horse burgers from the food wagon. As for the running of the meeting hopefully they will get on with it ….. but this is Leicester. Yes, all fair points, when i say the track is not conducive to junior racing I am referring to the lesser (junior) riders of a CL team that i see trying to get around Leicester. Nobody stands out, I think it's fair to say even the highly rated Anders Rowe has failed to get to grips with the track and even the likes of Drew Kemp & Jordan Palin have failed to ever show anything. Anyway, you may just have sold it to me you rascal, I'll see what the teams are like after Saturday and what the weather is like on Sunday and may just pop along to see what all the fuss is about 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 6:32 PM, Turnip said: The track will be fine for the NDL meeting coz the tractor driver loves doing doughnuts on the bends! Talk about 'u spin me round round' You want to try it, my head spins for ages after, joking apart, it really does help protect the iner part of the track, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, BTFC LION said: You want to try it, my head spins for ages after, joking apart, it really does help protect the iner part of the track, Whatever happened to Briggo's wonder wheel? Used to be standard issue a few years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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