cinderfella Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Paulco said: Well done Edinburgh, the world and his wife knew what change should have been made in heat 14 , so what chance have we got of winning anything this season The prize for the "most photographed speedway manager" is surely ours? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, cinderfella said: The prize for the "most photographed speedway manager" is surely ours? Cami Knickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 17 hours ago, JanAndersen said: I’ll do as I please thanks Gaz. xxxxx. Maybe Glasgow will equal their best ever season in the last 10 years and win the pairs. Won the cup in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 After few days to consider the result I'll go with my initial reaction. Ian Steele was sacked for less. And the quote, danyon unlucky in his ride finished last. couldn't take him out. Just more evidence not up to the job, need to be ruthless in the and broc should no doubt been in heat 14. Would middlo, pete Adams, rossco etc have made that decision? Not a chance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Jaizer said: After few days to consider the result I'll go with my initial reaction. Ian Steele was sacked for less. And the quote, danyon unlucky in his ride finished last. couldn't take him out. Just more evidence not up to the job, need to be ruthless in the and broc should no doubt been in heat 14. Would middlo, pete Adams, rossco etc have made that decision? Not a chance I certainly not a Cami fan,but it was no win situation,but he would have been better to make the change ,when you have got an unbeaten rider sitting in the pits in a Ht 14 situation should have used him.Would certainly have taken less flak from the most knowledgeable supporters.That’s life though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 11:03 PM, Turnip said: Leicester certainly benefitting with Stewart Dickson leading the way since his departure from Glasgow. I thought the same when Glasgow let Dickson walk away, not exactly their best ever move was it. The current TM seems to want to be more fair to the riders rather than putting the team cause and supporters first. Its fair to say their is a vast difference between managers in both divisions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: I thought the same when Glasgow let Dickson walk away, not exactly their best ever move was it. The current TM seems to want to be more fair to the riders rather than putting the team cause and supporters first. Its fair to say their is a vast difference between managers in both divisions. How many Tigers' fans were unhappy though when Ian Steele was sacked after a debatable decision at Berwick in a move that was seen as Stewart getting the job he wanted. I for one didn't like it but in fairness to Stewart he has become one of the finest tactician around (as the Anders Rowe maneuver shows) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, cinderfella said: How many Tigers' fans were unhappy though when Ian Steele was sacked after a debatable decision at Berwick in a move that was seen as Stewart getting the job he wanted. I for one didn't like it but in fairness to Stewart he has become one of the finest tactician around (as the Anders Rowe maneuver shows) He who invests the most can become Team Manager is the CV you have to forward these days. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheggie Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, cinderfella said: How many Tigers' fans were unhappy though when Ian Steele was sacked after a debatable decision at Berwick in a move that was seen as Stewart getting the job he wanted. I for one didn't like it but in fairness to Stewart he has become one of the finest tactician around (as the Anders Rowe maneuver shows) What happened at Berwick for Ian to be sacked and when was this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, cheggie said: What happened at Berwick for Ian to be sacked and when was this please? It would have been about 20 years ago. He didn't make a tactical substitution that possibly cost us a win and he paid the price. One of the Promoters was said to have fancied the job of team manager and that was seen as an excuse to get rid of Ian. Not only did we lose a team manager but we lost an incredible fan and historian who also had a website which had encyclopaedic information about EVERY rider that had riden for the Tigers Cut Ian Steele and he would have bled Glasgow Tigers. A real gentleman with a lovely wife, Anne, who was also Tigers daft. Edited June 6, 2022 by cinderfella 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Jaizer said: After few days to consider the result I'll go with my initial reaction. Ian Steele was sacked for less. And the quote, danyon unlucky in his ride finished last. couldn't take him out. Just more evidence not up to the job, need to be ruthless in the and broc should no doubt been in heat 14. Would middlo, pete Adams, rossco etc have made that decision? Not a chance Even Havvy would have put Broc in!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: The current TM seems to want to be more fair to the riders rather than putting the team cause and supporters first. He's not there to be popular with the riders. He is employed(???) by the Promotion to produce a winning team and to do that you have to be ruthless changing riders in heats as required. There are a lot of Glasgow fans been around for a long time who know the sport inside out and when reserve or tactical substitute changes should be made. I've no doubt newer fans must wonder why the current manager gets such a hard time from sections of the supporters but these supporters are the ones that know allowing a visiting team to take a point away or only winning by 3 point rather than 4 away from home can change the outcome of the play-offs. NOR IS HE THERE FOR SELF-PROMOTING PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES Edited June 6, 2022 by cinderfella 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 Superb speedway on Saturday and both teams deserved to go through but that last lap in the thirtieth heat over two legs was really nerve wracking for both sets of fans. Who can know what the result would have been if Sam and Josh had been available for the Monarchs or if Cookie hadn't had 3 engine failures but it was a pretty fair outcome by the end. I hope Kye is alright, the nastiest accidents usually happen on the straights and the riders can so easily get caught up in that netting that i wonder why they can't come up with something safer for a fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Jaizer said: Won the cup in 2016 Minor details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 Just now, JanAndersen said: Minor details As Rafa benitez would say... Facts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 7 hours ago, cinderfella said: How many Tigers' fans were unhappy though when Ian Steele was sacked after a debatable decision at Berwick in a move that was seen as Stewart getting the job he wanted. I for one didn't like it but in fairness to Stewart he has become one of the finest tactician around (as the Anders Rowe maneuver shows) In those intervening years he has been able to make the mistakes you learn from and turn into the shrewd operator you mention. You can do that when you are both owner and manager, and take your time doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Nickinho said: Superb speedway on Saturday and both teams deserved to go through but that last lap in the thirtieth heat over two legs was really nerve wracking for both sets of fans. Who can know what the result would have been if Sam and Josh had been available for the Monarchs or if Cookie hadn't had 3 engine failures but it was a pretty fair outcome by the end. I hope Kye is alright, the nastiest accidents usually happen on the straights and the riders can so easily get caught up in that netting that i wonder why they can't come up with something safer for a fence. I've been watching speedway for over 50 years and have seen fences made from railway sleeper (Crewe), plates off a battleship (Exeter) as well as the usual wire or solid board fences and have witnessed horrible crashed and injuries occur with every type of fence tried. Yes they get caught in the wire fences but equally rider bounce off solid board fence backing onto the track and riders that were behind them. I don't know what the answer is but sadly with the nature of the beast that is speedway I doubt we will ever find a totally satisfactory and safe solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 15 hours ago, Jaizer said: After few days to consider the result I'll go with my initial reaction. Ian Steele was sacked for less. And the quote, danyon unlucky in his ride finished last. couldn't take him out. Just more evidence not up to the job, need to be ruthless in the and broc should no doubt been in heat 14. Would middlo, pete Adams, rossco etc have made that decision? Not a chance Totally agree with you, got to put feelings aside & do what's best for Glasgow. Which in this case is giving an unbeaten rider an extra outing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Totally agree with you, got to put feelings aside & do what's best for Glasgow. Which in this case is giving an unbeaten rider an extra outing! I wonder what the riders actually make of their manager's decision making after his choices at Berwick and now Ashfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Re fences, I don't know what the idea was behind the change from chainlink to weldmesh fencing was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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