GhostRider Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, cyclone said: Despite Monarchs having a 16 pt lead from the 1st leg, thanks to their Promotion's blunder of accepting this Saturday as the date for the 2nd leg, they are denied the services of Masters & Pickering, who scored paid 28 from 11 in the league encounter on 1st May. The guest replacements of Richard Lawson & Justin Sedgmen are probably the best available, but imo, unlikely to match the scoring power of Masters & Pickering. Therefore under the circumstances, expect Tigers to win the tie on aggregate. This is incorrect about the “promotion blunder” as saturday was selected on purpose to avoid missing masters and pickering however, Rawicz, changed there fixture from sunday, to saturday for unknown reasons as they did not comment. courtesy of Edinburgh monarchs website - https://www.edinburghmonarchs.co.uk/news-centre/article/2022-05-31/monarchs-promotion-furious-as-polish-speedway-causes-koc-chaos I do agree that lawson and sedgmen will not score the same as masters and pickering, i think its all to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted June 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 hours ago, cyclone said: Despite Monarchs having a 16 pt lead from the 1st leg, thanks to their Promotion's blunder of accepting this Saturday as the date for the 2nd leg, they are denied the services of Masters & Pickering, who scored paid 28 from 11 in the league encounter on 1st May. The guest replacements of Richard Lawson & Justin Sedgmen are probably the best available, but imo, unlikely to match the scoring power of Masters & Pickering. Therefore under the circumstances, expect Tigers to win the tie on aggregate. Need Richard Lawson to have the gating gloves on and score round about 13 mark. Hope I’m wrong but can’t see other 5 scoring 25 points between them. time for Paco to step up to the plate away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Even with a 16 point lead I’m not entirely convinced it’s enough. With josh and Sam yes without we’ll just need to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spt82 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 9 hours ago, cyclone said: Despite Monarchs having a 16 pt lead from the 1st leg, thanks to their Promotion's blunder of accepting this Saturday as the date for the 2nd leg, they are denied the services of Masters & Pickering, who scored paid 28 from 11 in the league encounter on 1st May. The guest replacements of Richard Lawson & Justin Sedgmen are probably the best available, but imo, unlikely to match the scoring power of Masters & Pickering. Therefore under the circumstances, expect Tigers to win the tie on aggregate. Still very finely poised for me, obviously would've been very confident with Sam & Josh there however it's worth pointing out that Josh is yet to hit double figures away from home this season so if Sedgy can chip in with say 7,8 or 9 that may not be far off what Josh would get, it's the Kye and Paco pairing that need to step up tonight, you never quite know with that pair although Kye usually is decent round Ashfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Martins Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Would it not have been better to have just cancelled the meeting and rearrange when all riders are available, Huge meeting for Edinburgh and are having to use guests for their 2 best riders, and then people ask what is wrong with the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Couldn't they find a better guest than Sedgman to replace Pickering??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Martins said: Would it not have been better to have just cancelled the meeting and rearrange when all riders are available, Huge meeting for Edinburgh and are having to use guests for their 2 best riders, and then people ask what is wrong with the sport. It was already rescheduled from the Sunday as that was the original day Masters and Pickering’s Polish club were initially due to race tomorrow. They then changed the race day to today at short notice after Glasgow changed to today in order to accommodate Edinburgh so as both would be able to ride at Glasgow. Would imagine cancelling at short notice would have a financial hit for Glasgow so the meeting will go ahead tonight not ideal but neither Scottish club to blame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, GhostRider said: This is incorrect about the “promotion blunder” as saturday was selected on purpose to avoid missing masters and pickering however, Rawicz, changed there fixture from sunday, to saturday for unknown reasons as they did not comment. courtesy of Edinburgh monarchs website - https://www.edinburghmonarchs.co.uk/news-centre/article/2022-05-31/monarchs-promotion-furious-as-polish-speedway-causes-koc-chaos I do agree that lawson and sedgmen will not score the same as masters and pickering, i think its all to play for. FYI When Poland issue their weekend schedules , the PZM always list consecutive Saturdays & Sundays, & do not confirm the actual race day until c. 2 - 3 weeks before the event. This I believe is linked to sponsorships & tv scheduling. Furthermore Saturday & Sundays are the priority days for Polish fixtures which all contracted riders are obliged to fulfil. If anyone had checked previous fixtures held at Tarnow this season, they've used Saturdays. Further feedback from Poland indicates that the stadium in Tarnow is unavailable for speedway this Sunday as it is being used for a local festival event. The Edinburgh Promotion should have been aware of how Polish fixtures are confirmed & should have not agreed to the weekend date until the PZM announced the official date. They should have informed Glasgow they would visit on either the Saturday or Sunday once the the PZM announced the official date. This would have been c. 2 weeks beforehand. What makes it more galling was that Glasgow had suggested it be moved from their normal off race day of Sunday to Saturday, due to a possible tv clash with Scotland playing Wales in the World Cup Qualifier in Cardiff, which never materialised! BTW as the home team was Tarnow, kindly explain how the visitors "Rawicz, changed there fixture from sunday, to saturday for unknown reasons" Edited June 4, 2022 by cyclone 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, cyclone said: FYI When Poland issue their weekend schedules , the PZM always list consecutive Saturdays & Sundays, & do not confirm the actual race day until c. 2 - 3 weeks before the event. This I believe is linked to sponsorships & tv scheduling. Furthermore Saturday & Sundays are the priority days for Polish fixtures which all contracted riders are obliged to fulfil. If anyone had checked previous fixtures held at Tarnow this season, they've used Saturdays. Further feedback from Poland indicates that the stadium in Tarnow is unavailable for speedway this Sunday as it is being used for a local festival event. The Edinburgh Promotion should have been aware of how Polish fixtures are confirmed & should have not agreed to the weekend date until the PZM announced the official date. They should have informed Glasgow they would visit on either the Saturday or Sunday once the the PZM announced the official date. This would have been c. 2 weeks beforehand. What makes it more galling was that Glasgow had suggested it be moved from their normal off race day of Sunday to Saturday, due to a possible tv clash with Scotland playing Wales in the World Cup Qualifier in Cardiff, which never materialised! BTW as the home team was Tarnow, kindly explain how the visitors "Rawicz, changed there fixture from sunday, to saturday for unknown reasons" Fair play man, you got me beat lol, i was just going by the story on the monarchs website, that was all but obviously all may not be what it seems but anyway, we have a meeting on our hands allbeit not what we all wanted as not a full compliment for edinburgh but hey, thats speedway. looking forward to the meeting none the less Edited June 4, 2022 by GhostRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 I take it every fan is supporting Edinburgh MONARCHS!! tonight seeing as it is still the Queen's jubilee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I take it every fan is supporting Edinburgh MONARCHS!! tonight seeing as it is still the Queen's jubilee A Poole fan not wanting Glasgow to win, whatever will happen next? After meeting Kieran the Monarch on Thursday, on the journey from Poole to London, I'm favouring the Royal Battalion to sneak it Edited June 4, 2022 by Turnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Even sunnier and warmer than yesterday for the return leg. And no pesky stand for the sun to hide behind later - it got very cold for the fingers on that third bend last night. No idea how this will pan out. Tigers should score very well at reserve at home. Brennan should outscore Sedgmen too, but I can't remember when he was last here. Tigers can easily score 54 but the team never seem to deal with pressure very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Glad got stuck in roadworks on way back from largs missing this. Shambles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 I think Craig Cook has just about completed four laps in his three races combined. Scores would almost be level if his bike hadn't kept packing up. We're not going to close 10 points in the last five races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, Noelinho said: I think Craig Cook has just about completed four laps in his three races combined. Scores would almost be level if his bike hadn't kept packing up. We're not going to close 10 points in the last five races. He didn't think changing bikes could be an option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 We have a bit of a delay. Kye Thomson came off on the back straight in heat 12. I don't really know what happened. It seems there was contact with the metal fence as the track workers are looking at it. Kye is in the ambulance and we're told he is sat up and talking. He's been excluded. But I don't know what happened - I think he was at the back and all I saw was the bike cartwheel to a stop in line with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Hurt, but no hospital visit required. Still fixing the fence. Sun is still out but it's getting a bit windier and the temperature is dropping. We'll have to wait a bit longer to see how bad this week's post-heat 10 collapse is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Noelinho said: I think Craig Cook has just about completed four laps in his three races combined. Scores would almost be level if his bike hadn't kept packing up. We're not going to close 10 points in the last five races. Is it mechanical problems or attitude problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, Racin Jason 72 said: Is it mechanical problems or attitude problems Mechanical. Although the third time, he was understandably very frustrated. Hopefully the long pause has helped his cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Reserve on a max, but dont use him in 14..... clever move! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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