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8 minutes ago, snapper said:

It appears that Masters and Pickering are ridding in Poland on the Sunday so they would Not have been able to ride on the original date as well 

Maybe Glasgow should have gone back to their 1964 days of riding on a Weds? :D

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54 minutes ago, snapper said:

It appears that Masters and Pickering are ridding in Poland on the Sunday so they would Not have been able to ride on the original date as well 

The obvious thing would have been to change it to a date they were available,common sense is lacking.

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2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

The obvious thing would have been to change it to a date they were available,common sense is lacking.

Maybe they think that they will be far enough ahead meaning the 2nd leg is a mere formality.

can’t believe I just wrote that.

But it is possible.

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3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Isn't the German SGP also on Saturday 4th, as well as International Footie (yes I know its England!!) on mainstream TV?!

Excellent fixture planning

Oooh, so much sport to watch on my birthday, maybe i'll actually celebrate it lol

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This has appeared on Edinburgh General Discussions FB :-

The Polish Fixtures for 2022 were published in the Speedway Star on APRIL 9 & the following are listed for Rawicz for June:-
4 - 5 Tarnow (a); 11 -12 Daugavpils (h); 18 -19 Poznan (a)
Puzzled how the Promotion were not aware of the Polish fixtures well in advance of agreeing to go Ashfield on 4th June? Look forward to the Promotion advising the fans as to why they agreed to go there this Saturday.
 
BTW both Masters & Pickering are contracted to Rawicz.
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27 minutes ago, cyclone said:

This has appeared on Edinburgh General Discussions FB :-

The Polish Fixtures for 2022 were published in the Speedway Star on APRIL 9 & the following are listed for Rawicz for June:-
4 - 5 Tarnow (a); 11 -12 Daugavpils (h); 18 -19 Poznan (a)
Puzzled how the Promotion were not aware of the Polish fixtures well in advance of agreeing to go Ashfield on 4th June? Look forward to the Promotion advising the fans as to why they agreed to go there this Saturday.
 
BTW both Masters & Pickering are contracted to Rawicz.

I believe Tom Brennan is too. Any news if he'll be missing? Or would he get 28 day ban if didn't fulfill a UK fixture in preference for Poland?

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4 hours ago, Jaizer said:

I believe Tom Brennan is too. Any news if he'll be missing? Or would he get 28 day ban if didn't fulfill a UK fixture in preference for Poland?

My understanding is that as that wherever there is a  non challenge fixture clash, which ever club had the fixture logged in their schedule earliest then they have priority for the rider/s service. In these circumstances, there should be no ban on riders obliged to ride in Poland, and the UK club will be entitled to the normal guest or r/r facilities for absent riders.

If I'm correct, Edinburgh ,assuming they're already using  r/r for Fredriksen, can  use  guests for Masters up to 9.41 & Pickering up to 7.53.

Glasgow  can either use a guest for Brennan up to 6.76 or r/r using all home riders, except Cook.

 

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5 hours ago, Jaizer said:

I believe Tom Brennan is too. Any news if he'll be missing? Or would he get 28 day ban if didn't fulfill a UK fixture in preference for Poland?

Think the problem could be that it is a GB KOC match, not a league fixture.

polish league then has first dibs.

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1 hour ago, JanAndersen said:

So Edinburgh will have r/r for Lasse and guests for Sam, Josh and James. Glasgow either r/r or guest for Brennan.

Do the promotions honestly believe this is worth staging? Edinburgh in particular. 

Has anyone worked out when the match could be held? If it gets moved again will other countries fixtures take precedence so could still end up with guests? Does anyone know if there is a deadline to complete KO Cup matches - there was talk of that after the farce caused by delays last year and previous years for that matter.  

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2 minutes ago, SharpenRake said:

Has anyone worked out when the match could be held? If it gets moved again will other countries fixtures take precedence so could still end up with guests? Does anyone know if there is a deadline to complete KO Cup matches - there was talk of that after the farce caused by delays last year and previous years for that matter.  

Nobody’s bothered.it’s just how speedway is run nowadays.

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11 hours ago, JanAndersen said:

So Edinburgh will have r/r for Lasse and guests for Sam, Josh and James. Glasgow either r/r or guest for Brennan.

Do the promotions honestly believe this is worth staging? Edinburgh in particular. 

Of course they do...

Perfectly normal and acceptable I would imagine in their eyes.. 

The same outlook as every promote I would imagine as they seem to all do it..

Not sure every fan shares the same view though...

But that isnt important is it? ;)

Just like the tournaments they run due to using the operating model they do...

One day they may get it...

(What am I saying, of course they wont)..

Personally can't believe Bomber wont be there given so many guests are needed..

What a disgrace that they arranged it for a night he cannot be there so he misses out...:D

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Statement released saying the polish fixture was scheduled for the Sunday hence why the match was made for Saturday.

The poles have now decided to run the Saturday and have priority as it isn’t a league fixture. They’ve also refused to comment or give us a reason for doing so. Polish speedway doing as they please again it seems. 

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35 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Statement released saying the polish fixture was scheduled for the Sunday hence why the match was made for Saturday.

The poles have now decided to run the Saturday and have priority as it isn’t a league fixture. They’ve also refused to comment or give us a reason for doing so. Polish speedway doing as they please again it seems. 

Why can’t they just revert to the original Sunday fixture then.?

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1 hour ago, Mr Blobby said:

Statement released saying the polish fixture was scheduled for the Sunday hence why the match was made for Saturday.

The poles have now decided to run the Saturday and have priority as it isn’t a league fixture. They’ve also refused to comment or give us a reason for doing so. Polish speedway doing as they please again it seems. 

That statement is incorrect. Until May 24th, when PZM announced the date as Saturday 4th, it could have been either day. This is always how Polish fixtures work. And Edinburgh know that. 

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3 hours ago, stewmac said:

That statement is incorrect. Until May 24th, when PZM announced the date as Saturday 4th, it could have been either day. This is always how Polish fixtures work. And Edinburgh know that. 

They were assured by their polish club the meeting would take place on the Sunday as they were in discussions with them before agreeing the Saturday.

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2 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

They were assured by their polish club the meeting would take place on the Sunday as they were in discussions with them before agreeing the Saturday.

I suspect you and I have discussed this elsewhere, on FB. It is never definitely one day or the other until the official announcement. Even the riders know that. 

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