Edinburgh - new home required….

[JanAndersen]

19 minutes ago, Gazc said:

I would have thought the continuity would have been priority and worry about the Friday night issue when the time comes.

The other thing that might be a consideration is that we may move up which has been rumoured which means we would have to change to a Monday and/or Thursday although this has been rumoured before.

I think Glasgow would be mad to “move up”. I just don’t see the benefit. 

[Gazc]

19 minutes ago, JanAndersen said:

I think Glasgow would be mad to “move up”. I just don’t see the benefit. 

It was always the local derbies with yourselves and Berwick and to a lesser extent Newcastle and Redcar that held them back.

If we lose Edinburgh it may sway them , personally I agree much prefer we we are competing but you never know.

[screm]

I am sure Edinburgh Speedway will tell you they are actively looking at new land and alternatives to the West Lothian Stadium, unfortunately I think this was Edinburgh`s  one and only chance to get land secured and a new home. Edinburgh won`t take part in any league racing in 2023, I think its difficult to see them returning at all.

[MD]

1 hour ago, Gazc said:

It was always the local derbies with yourselves and Berwick and to a lesser extent Newcastle and Redcar that held them back.

If we lose Edinburgh it may sway them , personally I agree much prefer we we are competing but you never know.

Our nearest rival team would then become Manchester and 7 would be an uneven amount for a league, not undoable, but would be better with another team joining to make it 8. However whats the benefit for us, with the exception of Doyle, Holder and Fricke we see all the other riders in our league anyway.

I've also got issues with propping up the big league, the second division is our natural domain, the BSPL and its predecessor have done little to support it over the years and would happily collapse it if needs must, to protect their precious Division 1.

[JanAndersen]

2 hours ago, screm said:

I am sure Edinburgh Speedway will tell you they are actively looking at new land and alternatives to the West Lothian Stadium, unfortunately I think this was Edinburgh`s  one and only chance to get land secured and a new home. Edinburgh won`t take part in any league racing in 2023, I think its difficult to see them returning at all.

Why is it difficult to see them returning at all? The will and support is there to make it work. People aren’t it’s going to give that up at the end of this season. Apathy is not the issue unlike with some other clubs. 

[jenga]

4 hours ago, JanAndersen said:

Are there some tracks where a Friday wouldn’t suit? Could Friday be a Championship race night across the league?

God frey will not like that idea .

[JanAndersen]

6 minutes ago, jenga said:

God frey will not like that idea .

Excellent. Let’s get it done then. 

[Bagpuss]

4 hours ago, JanAndersen said:

I think Glasgow would be mad to “move up”. I just don’t see the benefit. 

Depends really, if its the Prem in its current guise then agree but if its a bigger league (say eight teams) and half a dozen very good riders return to the UK then it would be a step up for for a club with lots of ambition.

[tyretrax]

6 hours ago, Jaizer said:

 

Feels a bit like Glasgow in 97, we had to go with Sundays as lost Friday's when missed the 96 season. And as my old man's forever telling me Friday was our night they stole it 

We ran on a Wednesday in 1990 when greyhounds started using Fridays, then in1991 we changed to Sundays until we moved to Ashfield.

[Noelinho]

10 hours ago, JanAndersen said:

Discussed this on Friday and I think one thing that would make this tricky is the Friday night thing. We’d have to find another afternoon/evening which might prevent a move back to Fridays when a permanent home is hopefully found. 

Alternate Fridays for the Tigers/Monarchs, with the very occasional Sunday match, would be logistically possible. Glasgow have completed 13 home fixtures in 24 weeks.

Our season didn't start until 15th April - that could come forward to the start of April (although we advertise the season as starting in March), and Jubilee League/KO Cup matches could be on Sundays, with league on Friday nights.

Could even run double-headers, like Berwick do for Bandits/Bullets fixtures.

I think there's still a valid question of desirability and how many Monarchs fans would travel, but from a purely fixture logistics position, I think it could be accommodated even with both clubs using Friday nights. Rain-offs might need to be re-arranged for another day of the week, though.

[StevePark]

8 hours ago, Noelinho said:

Alternate Fridays for the Tigers/Monarchs, with the very occasional Sunday match, would be logistically possible. Glasgow have completed 13 home fixtures in 24 weeks.

Our season didn't start until 15th April - that could come forward to the start of April (although we advertise the season as starting in March), and Jubilee League/KO Cup matches could be on Sundays, with league on Friday nights.

Could even run double-headers, like Berwick do for Bandits/Bullets fixtures.

I think there's still a valid question of desirability and how many Monarchs fans would travel, but from a purely fixture logistics position, I think it could be accommodated even with both clubs using Friday nights. Rain-offs might need to be re-arranged for another day of the week, though.

Which would make supporting either/both clubs damned expensive, especially Monarchs fans who have the extra cost of fuel for getting to the track.

And, we appear to have forgotten all about the Armadale Devils in all of this. What happens to them?

[Mr Blobby]

1 hour ago, StevePark said:

Which would make supporting either/both clubs damned expensive, especially Monarchs fans who have the extra cost of fuel for getting to the track.

And, we appear to have forgotten all about the Armadale Devils in all of this. What happens to them?

Or the monarchs academy who currently has a good group of young kids from the ages of 8 to 15 who have all invested in bikes and other equipment to make their journey in the sport. 

regarding Armadale stadium I know it has been taken off the market and it hasn’t been sold either. Would make sense for us to stay for another year while we try find another location which I know gordon is actively doing.

[JanAndersen]

2 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Or the monarchs academy who currently has a good group of young kids from the ages of 8 to 15 who have all invested in bikes and other equipment to make their journey in the sport. 

regarding Armadale stadium I know it has been taken off the market and it hasn’t been sold either. Would make sense for us to stay for another year while we try find another location which I know gordon is actively doing.

Fingers crossed

[cyclone]

13 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Or the monarchs academy who currently has a good group of young kids from the ages of 8 to 15 who have all invested in bikes and other equipment to make their journey in the sport. 

regarding Armadale stadium I know it has been taken off the market and it hasn’t been sold either. Would make sense for us to stay for another year while we try find another location which I know gordon is actively doing.

If correct, what other income has it been generating for the owner, other than rental from the Monarchs, car parking, bar & catering?

The only other possible "benefit" I can imagine is that a reduction in rates paid for an unoccupied stadium, outweighs tenant occupancy & use, during the Speedway season?

[davie10]

has anyone though that glasgow might not want to hire the stadium to the monarchs in the first place after all they spent millions get it the way they wanted it ?

[Fromafar]

19 hours ago, cyclone said:

If correct, what other income has it been generating for the owner, other than rental from the Monarchs, car parking, bar & catering?

The only other possible "benefit" I can imagine is that a reduction in rates paid for an unoccupied stadium, outweighs tenant occupancy & use, during the Speedway season?

Probably better to leave it empty or demolished it to attract buyers IMO.Always better if no obstacles in the way for potential buyers.

[mikebv]

7 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Probably better to leave it empty or demolished it to attract buyers IMO.Always better if no obstacles in the way for potential buyers.

Didnt the owners say that this was the plan? 

No "sitting tenants" to muddy the water.....

[JanAndersen]

1 hour ago, davie10 said:

has anyone though that glasgow might not want to hire the stadium to the monarchs in the first place after all they spent millions get it the way they wanted it ?

What's the downside? A speedway track gets used an absolute maximum of one day a week on average. If you can make that two and get some income through rental then would seem worthwhile. I can't see it happening but not because Glasgow wouldn't do it. All IMO of course.

[Joseq7]

On 9/26/2022 at 9:18 AM, StevePark said:

Which would make supporting either/both clubs damned expensive, especially Monarchs fans who have the extra cost of fuel for getting to the track.

And, we appear to have forgotten all about the Armadale Devils in all of this. What happens to them?

Transfer the franchise to Ashfield and resurrect the Giants....?

To be honest this is a big concern of mine too. 

There is precious little encouraging pathway for junior Scottish speedway talent. 

In the NDL crowd levels are a secondary concern. 

[szkocjasid]

Could the Edinburgh Monarchs run NL speedway out of Glasgow? Less dates needed, cheaper to run & keep the name alive?