Ian68 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, iainb said: People do check, in fact i did check this forecast as i was going to watch it on BSN, i saw that showers were forecast and thought nothing more of it. As I've said there was no storm forecast or any prolonged rain. If the club want to call it off that early that's fine, I'll just mark them down as one of the many clubs not to bother to travel to anymore as they can't be relied on to get a meeting on Rob can't control the weather they made the right decision by calling it off early or should they have waited until all the riders and supporters had arrived and then made the decision,its not difficult to check on social media it was posted on there early enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, Ian68 said: Rob can't control the weather they made the right decision by calling it off early or should they have waited until all the riders and supporters had arrived and then made the decision,its not difficult to check on social media it was posted on there early enough It's a tricky one isn't it... Rob (or any other promoter) can't control the weather of course, they can control if and when they postpone a meeting though. There should be some cut off time though as to when a decision is made, if they're going to continue to call meetings off based on weather forecasts, which seems to be the new normal. A lot of fans simply don't know where they stand and if or when to check. I think a lot of fans can take an actual rain off while they're at the track or on their way, it goes with the territory of following a weather prone sport in Britain. What they can't take is a promotion deciding to call a meeting off on what may or may not happen at any given time. If they said a meeting will not be called off after say 11am on the day of a meeting, based on a weather forecast, then everybody would know where they stood. If it actually did rain after that, enough to cancel a meeting, fair enough, that's life. But if a match starts, heaven and earth should be moved to ensure it finishes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) This forum is amazing at times. Scunny make the right decision in plenty of time to prevent people making a wasted journey, publicise it well... and yet people still find something to complain about. The meeting was called off just before lunchtime - at around 11.45am. By noon, the news of the call off was on social media, the club website and the BSPL website. Scunthorpe make early decisions to avoid having to make late decisions and waste everyone's time. And it works. I live over three hours away and yet I hardly ever end up at Scunthorpe for a rained off meeting. You can trust Scunny, because by lunchtime, they'll decide they are going ahead and they then try their absolute hardest to go ahead and complete the meeting - Scunny v Poole was an example of this. Edited May 21, 2022 by lucifer sam 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 I don't think the issue is were they right or wrong, it's when does a fan check and get a final decision on whether to travel or not? 11:52 apparently, if everybody knows it's 11:52, fair enough, call every match off... as long as we all know where we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, iainb said: I don't think the issue is were they right or wrong, it's when does a fan check and get a final decision on whether to travel or not? 11:52 apparently, if everybody knows it's 11:52, fair enough, call every match off... as long as we all know where we are They do. With Scunny if it's called going to be called off, it depends slightly where the away fans/riders are coming from. For instance, for Sheffield, Rob Godfrey knew he didn't need to make a decision by around 2.30pm-3pm, whereas if it is Glasgow, Edinburgh or Plymouth, it will be first thing. But if anyone checks before setting off, they will find the answer before they leave. With Newcastle yesterday, it was off a good 2/3 hours before anyone needs to leave Newcastle to get to Scunny. Edited May 21, 2022 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 NEWCASTLE DIAMONDS v SCUNTHORPE SCORPIONS,,, SUN 22nd MAY 2022. Please note that this fixture was postponed about a fortnight ago. Not sure if it has been on TV, wireless or in the national press,but if you do travel to the venue the funfair might still be there, so it's not a totally wasted trip/day out/whatever! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: With Newcastle yesterday, it was off a good 2/3 hours before anyone needs to leave Newcastle to get to Scunny. Not necessarily,,, it would be dependent on which mode of transport you were using, it would take a while to pedal there!!!,,, but a do agree with your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: This forum is amazing at times. Scunny make the right decision in plenty of time to prevent people making a wasted journey, publicise it well... and yet people still find something to complain about. The meeting was called off just before lunchtime - at around 11.45am. By noon, the news of the call off was on social media, the club website and the BSPL website. Scunthorpe make early decisions to avoid having to make late decisions and waste everyone's time. And it works. I live over three hours away and yet I hardly ever end up at Scunthorpe for a rained off meeting. You can trust Scunny, because by lunchtime, they'll decide they are going ahead and they then try their absolute hardest to go ahead and complete the meeting - Scunny v Poole was an example of this. With speedway having mostly an ageing fanbase social media ain't really summit they actually use or even know how to use, that's most of the problem, my parents are both in their early 80's and wouldn't have a clue about which websites to use for information, best they would do is ring the track and hope someone actually picks up the phone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: They do. With Scunny if it's called going to be called off, it depends slightly where the away fans/riders are coming from. For instance, for Sheffield, Rob Godfrey knew he didn't need to make a decision by around 2.30pm-3pm, whereas if it is Glasgow, Edinburgh or Plymouth, it will be first thing. But if anyone checks before setting off, they will find the answer before they leave. With Newcastle yesterday, it was off a good 2/3 hours before anyone needs to leave Newcastle to get to Scunny. yep, that's fine, now everybody knows that if you're travelling down from Newcastle to Scunthorpe (by car) that if you check their socials by 11:52 you know it's defintely going to be on unless it actually rains, at least we now know where we stand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: NEWCASTLE DIAMONDS v SCUNTHORPE SCORPIONS,,, SUN 22nd MAY 2022. Please note that this fixture was postponed about a fortnight ago. Not sure if it has been on TV, wireless or in the national press,but if you do travel to the venue the funfair might still be there, so it's not a totally wasted trip/day out/whatever! Well, is the fun fair there or isn't it? I ain't going all that way, only to find it has moved on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, iainb said: Well, is the fun fair there or isn't it? I ain't going all that way, only to find it has moved on! Dunno, av never been there for about a fortnight ,,, but if you can hold your p!ss in till you get there, you'll find out. If it's not there and the toilets aren't open, just go behind the tree in the carpark! Edited May 21, 2022 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Dunno, av never been there for about a fortnight ,,, but if you can hold your p!ss in till you get there, you'll find out. If it's not there and the toilets aren't open, just go behind the tree in the carpark! I can hold my piss from Leicester to Scotland, no problem! Though it sounds like you couldn't get by Donnington services... maybe get your prostate checked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 hours ago, iainb said: I don't think the issue is were they right or wrong, it's when does a fan check and get a final decision on whether to travel or not? 11:52 apparently, if everybody knows it's 11:52, fair enough, call every match off... as long as we all know where we are I think in this day and age not checking the local weather forecast and the respective clubs website before leaving for a speedway meeting when travelling a distance is somewhat reckless and a chance that just isn’t worth taking. Clubs who call meetings off on bad forecasts invariably do it to save everyone’s time and money including them on rent, expenses, riders officials etc and it works. Not often I agree with a Scunthorpes press officer but I do on this occasion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: I think in this day and age not checking the local weather forecast and the respective clubs website before leaving for a speedway meeting when travelling a distance is somewhat reckless and a chance that just isn’t worth taking. Clubs who call meetings off on bad forecasts invariably do it to save everyone’s time and money including them on rent, expenses, riders officials etc and it works. Not often I agree with a Scunthorpes press officer but I do on this occasion. I agree... when do you check though? Once you're on the road it's difficult to keep checking, illegal in fact without continually stopping to check every 15 to 20 minutes if you're travelling alone. Surely in 2022 the technology exists to message subscribed fans when a meeting is called off. A WhatsApp or Telegram group for example. There's obviously a need for something or fans wouldn't continue to turn up when a meeting has been cancelled hours beforehand Edited May 21, 2022 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, iainb said: I agree... when do you check though? Once you're on the road it's difficult to keep checking, illegal in fact without continually stopping to check every 15 to 20 minutes if you're travelling alone. Surely in 2022 the technology exists to message subscribed fans when a meeting is called off. A WhatsApp or Telegram group for example. There's obviously a need for something or fans wouldn't continue to turn up when a meeting has been cancelled hours beforehand Or follow that club on Twitter, set the 'Notification' to ON and get a 'ping' on your mobile phone when the club put a message on Twitter with any weather updates/postponements. The 'notification' for the club is easily turned off when you don't need it. Obviously don't look at the phone whilst driving! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, iainb said: I agree... when do you check though? Once you're on the road it's difficult to keep checking, illegal in fact without continually stopping to check every 15 to 20 minutes if you're travelling alone. Surely in 2022 the technology exists to message subscribed fans when a meeting is called off. A WhatsApp or Telegram group for example. There's obviously a need for something or fans wouldn't continue to turn up when a meeting has been cancelled hours beforehand Agree with this.....might be in Scunthorpe's interests to set something up starting with the folk who turned up last night so as not to lose some valuable customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 People will only check when they perceive a need to, if it’s a dry day you can’t blame people for assuming a meeting will be on. If every track postponed a meeting because it might rain in the evening, we might as well not bother. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanBrannan Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Once a meeting is confirmed to be off, British Speedway’s Twitter & Facebook always post about it pretty much immediately. You don’t have to be a member of Twitter to see it either just go to Twitter.com/SpeedwayGB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, StevePark said: Or follow that club on Twitter, set the 'Notification' to ON and get a 'ping' on your mobile phone when the club put a message on Twitter with any weather updates/postponements. The 'notification' for the club is easily turned off when you don't need it. Obviously don't look at the phone whilst driving! Thanks... actually didn't know you could do that, perhaps this needs to be more widely communicated to fans... it does mean you get bombarded with all posts, suppose you could turn it on while you're travelling though... not sure what i do about Birmingham or Leicester though as they've blocked me Edited May 21, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Ok so if its raining when i wake up check if its on. if its not raining then presume its on and set off.....also there are other reasons why meetings get called off..i am quessing these people who turned up would be in the older age bracket? they probably have no mobile or ipad etc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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