StevePark Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 7:51 PM, StevePark said: Yes George out of Sunday. Two guests spoken to tonight. Announcement in due course. Expand Kyle Howarth and Jason Edwards guest on Sunday (8th May) vs Glasgow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorRacing Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 4:38 PM, StevePark said: Kyle Howarth and Jason Edwards guest on Sunday (8th May) vs Glasgow. Expand Are we gunna run the future being guest united? For instance if theres no estimated return date for dean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) On 5/5/2022 at 4:45 PM, HectorRacing said: Are we gunna run the future being guest united? For instance if theres no estimated return date for dean. Expand As suppose it wouldn't be too bad if we could get a 'Jason Lemon' type guest for home fixtures. Although its unfortunate we don't have a fit no.1,,, fortunately due to BWD's average situation we should be able to utilise that 8+ave. Think it'll be a while before any of the others lads will surpass that figure. No disrespect to them tho. Edited May 5, 2022 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 4:38 PM, StevePark said: Kyle Howarth and Jason Edwards guest on Sunday (8th May) vs Glasgow. Expand No offence to Jason Edwards, but surely they could have got a better guest at reserve? James Sarjeant seems an obvious one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 This is now two of eleven sides using a permanent guest for their No1. Can't be good for the credibility of the sport but I'm sure the promoters and riders love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) On 5/5/2022 at 7:59 PM, enotian said: This is now two of eleven sides using a permanent guest for their No1. Can't be good for the credibility of the sport but I'm sure the promoters and riders love it. Expand Valid point,,, but IAF where are they gonna get other no.1's without shafting other team members? If any are available! Edited May 5, 2022 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 8:08 PM, ruffdiamond said: Valid point,,, but IAF where are they gonna get other no.1's without shafting other team members? Expand exactly. because there are too few to go around which was obvious at the end of last season yet they allowed some teams to track three whilst others have none and two have non existent No1's. It all leads in one direction with an increasingly smaller pool of riders who constantly guest for opponents. It's a team sport in name only now. Shame 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 7:59 PM, enotian said: This is now two of eleven sides using a permanent guest for their No1. Can't be good for the credibility of the sport but I'm sure the promoters and riders love it. Expand When has the sport been credible in the last number of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 7:54 PM, szkocjasid said: No offence to Jason Edwards, but surely they could have got a better guest at reserve? James Sarjeant seems an obvious one! Expand Perhaps he was asked and said no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 7:59 PM, enotian said: This is now two of eleven sides using a permanent guest for their No1. Can't be good for the credibility of the sport but I'm sure the promoters and riders love it. Expand It was much worse in 1984 [Carter, Sigalos, Lee and Mauger (away only) - were pretty much absent all season - all were number ones] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 9:03 PM, StevePark said: Perhaps he was asked and said no? Expand After his performance at Glasgow, maybe Jason Edwards is the strongest option after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 9:03 PM, StevePark said: Perhaps he was asked and said no? Expand You mean “he was asked and said no” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 9:03 PM, StevePark said: Perhaps he was asked and said no? Expand & James was missing last week for Edinburgh so he may be unwell or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 2:17 PM, Justgotmecpc said: & James was missing last week for Edinburgh so he may be unwell or something Expand Paternity leave. His partner had gone into labour. Haven't heard the outcome, but I hope it was a good one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 4:38 PM, StevePark said: Kyle Howarth and Jason Edwards guest on Sunday (8th May) vs Glasgow. Expand Edwards was very impressive at Glasgow , last night , guesting for Plymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 3:00 PM, Paulco said: Edwards was very impressive at Glasgow , last night , guesting for Plymouth Expand Edwards if definitely a talent great bike control and style.Not just a throttle jockey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 7:54 PM, szkocjasid said: No offence to Jason Edwards, but surely they could have got a better guest at reserve? James Sarjeant seems an obvious one! Expand Your getting a rider scoring double his current average for a rider who hasn’t scored half of his. Be thankful for small mercy’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 4:44 PM, Fortythirtyeight said: Your getting a rider scoring double his current average for a rider who hasn’t scored half of his. Be thankful for small mercy’s. Expand Sarj average surely too high? 4.27 according to speedway stats. Even if you're allowed the 5% for Congreve it's up to 4.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 5:08 PM, Jaizer said: Sarj average surely too high? 4.27 according to speedway stats. Even if you're allowed the 5% for Congreve it's up to 4.2 Expand No 5%. Sarj is 3.95 from 1st May on the BSPL website 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted May 8, 2022 Report Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 10:01 PM, arnieg said: It was much worse in 1984 [Carter, Sigalos, Lee and Mauger (away only) - were pretty much absent all season - all were number ones] Expand And what happened in 1985? Newcastle closed, having finished last after being unable to sign an established BL No1, despite the efforts of Joe Owen. I think, from memory, a few other tracks also closed or dropped into the NL along with the likes of L Collins, G Kennett, D Jessup, who had all been World Finalists (rostrum placed even?) within the previous 5 years or so. You could argue that 1984 was the beginning of the end for top level league speedway in Britain, as the reliance on foreign riders became more prevalent and the National team suffered as a result. Importantly though, whilst mistakes were made by promoters pre 1984 season what could not be foreseen was the loss of Carter, Sigalos and Lee for various reasons. I think Sanders left us around the same time. Fast forward to 2022 and it was abundantly clear there wouldn't be enough No1 standard riders to go around (in the CL) unless they were regulated. The chain is only as strong as its weakest link and the state of Newcastle it's not a chain I'd want to pull. And guess what happens if you never flush? You end up with a pile of...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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