leicester lions already lost it ?

[bigcatdiary]

1 minute ago, Mike.Butler said:

You clearly haven''t been recently. 'he Leicester track is vastly improved. 

A good friend of mine took his grandson to the Leicester v Newcastle match a couple of weeks ago, I asked him if the track was any better and he said it was utter shyte.

I have been twice since it opened despite living only 35 miles away and despite a tidy stadium and viewing area the track, parking and racing is dreadful.

[Sings4Speedway]

13 hours ago, stevethelion said:

Said when the team was announced it had 3 heat leaders, 1 average 2nd string & 3 reserves. The twins can only ride Leicester, this means unless the 3 heat leaders all get double figures, they're not going to get many points on the road. You can't carry 2 riders & expect to win on your travels. Admire the loyalty shown to them & not saying they should be dropped, but for this year there's no way Leicester will beat the likes of Poole & Glasgow over 2 legs. Might scrape into the play-offs, but that's about it.

3 heat leaders at Leicester and some teams have struggled to track more than 1. The investment in the twins over the years has been considerable and admirable.  For the sake of a season or two' s not optimal results in return for potential return has to be worth it 

[justathought]

40 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Ripped it up and started again?

You probably mean start again. 

Always nice to have informed and educational post.

Thank you.

[Mike.Butler]

17 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

A good friend of mine took his grandson to the Leicester v Newcastle match a couple of weeks ago, I asked him if the track was any better and he said it was utter shyte.

I have been twice since it opened despite living only 35 miles away and despite a tidy stadium and viewing area the track, parking and racing is dreadful.

you are entitled to your opinion of course but you seem super-crtitical. (I too disliked the actual track when it first opened). I have seen 3 meetings there so far this season (not Newcastle) and there has been a lot of passing and close racing. I find viewing is fine whether standing or sitting and you can park in Sainsbury's for 4 hours.   

[Happy Hunter]

27 minutes ago, Mike.Butler said:

you are entitled to your opinion of course but you seem super-crtitical. (I too disliked the actual track when it first opened). I have seen 3 meetings there so far this season (not Newcastle) and there has been a lot of passing and close racing. I find viewing is fine whether standing or sitting and you can park in Sainsbury's for 4 hours.   

It's Tescos not Sainsburys just in case anyone gets misled! To be really pedantic it's the Beaumont Leys Shopping Centre Car Park.

[Elmo]

1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said:

A good friend of mine took his grandson to the Leicester v Newcastle match a couple of weeks ago, I asked him if the track was any better and he said it was utter shyte.

I have been twice since it opened despite living only 35 miles away and despite a tidy stadium and viewing area the track, parking and racing is dreadful.

And have you seen the Newcastle team?

It was always going to be a hammering.

And as others have said the racing has vastly improved over the last few years.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Elmo

[FishersGate]

From a lions fan who goes every week in im happy with our team. Do I think it's going to win the league ? No. Are we going to get lots of points on the road? No. Are we going to hammer alot of teams at home and pretty much win every home meeting? Yes. For me we will finish in the play offs and just miss out. I'm happy for us to jus to keep loyal to our boys (the twins) alot of pressure is on them this year after a great first year. Think people forget that they only turned 18 two days ago. They need a few more seasons of learning different tracks and gaining experience. One day it will pay off for us as they are our assets and Leicester don't have many. My only concern is Rowe has been off the pace at home and is clearly not suited to our track. I think Dan n Joe still belong at reserve and maybe next year we will put them back there. Our heat leaders are very good and mountain is doing a steady job at 2. So I ain't complaining much. I've seen some good racing and every time we get beat I keep thinking of those other clubs aren't running this year. I'm being spoilt and just love going to the lions den and having a blast !

[torpointfanatic22]

Leicester were massively overrated at the start of the season, similarly to Oxford who loads of people felt would be a playoff team.

I think the thing that stood out to me at Plymouth was the poor attitude from some of the Lions team, they looked like they didn't want to be there before a wheel was turned. If senior riders in your team have that approach, well then you've lost before you've started. For that I'd be kicking some bottoms!

Leicester will probably make the playoffs but unless Poole go down with injuries, it's theirs to lose.

[Leave some for us.]

2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

A good friend of mine took his grandson to the Leicester v Newcastle match a couple of weeks ago, I asked him if the track was any better and he said it was utter shyte.

I have been twice since it opened despite living only 35 miles away and despite a tidy stadium and viewing area the track, parking and racing is dreadful.

Bit like the showground ay. 

[bigcatdiary]

23 minutes ago, Leave some for us. said:

Bit like the showground ay. 

Thankfully No, but we are spoilt at Peterborough.

Fantastic track that generally offers great racing, good facilities for fans and it’s own proper car parks both inside and out.

[IainB]

7 hours ago, Shadders said:

One of the biggest disappointments is the Leicester track. They had a blank canvas and came up with that. 

It turns out that this particular turd can be polished... the racing so far this season has in general been excellent!

3 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

A good friend of mine took his grandson to the Leicester v Newcastle match a couple of weeks ago, I asked him if the track was any better and he said it was utter shyte.

I have been twice since it opened despite living only 35 miles away and despite a tidy stadium and viewing area the track, parking and racing is dreadful.

I don't think Newcastle are going to server up any entertainment at any away track this season tbh... ask your friend about Heat 15, that was a great race!

3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

The investment in the twins over the years has been considerable and admirable.  For the sake of a season or two' s not optimal results in return for potential return has to be worth it 

Hopefully when the cubs get some meetings under their belts the twins will be a little more consistent and gain some confidence as they get more track time... I don't know if he's eligible but it looks as though Anders Rowe may also benefit from some cub time

Edited April 24, 2022 by iainb

[Leave some for us.]

13 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

Thankfully No, but we are spoilt at Peterborough.

Fantastic track that generally offers great racing, good facilities for fans and it’s own proper car parks both inside and out.

Spoiled? How? I beg to differ, yes it may be fast at the showground but it’s generally gate and go. The car parks are a fair walk from the track itself. Unless you are able to park inside( which 99% of fans can’t as you know) It’s poorly lit on the journey back to the car. Facilities are on par with Leicester, toilets, seating, over priced burger van, but isn’t that the same everywhere. 

[Bagpuss]

Oh come on now, I think we can all agree that those who have been twice in eleven years know more about the track than those who go every week

I think its generally accepted that when building the track and stadium they made a bit if a horlicks of the shape but a lot of work has gone into widening and improving it. Sounds like there are one or two issues with the surface but it's posted on here far more often than ever before that the racing is good nowadays and that's a very positive thing.

To answer the OP writing any team off in April is silly.

[Bagpuss]

1 minute ago, Leave some for us. said:

Spoiled? How? I beg to differ, yes it may be fast at the showground but it’s generally gate and go. The car parks are a fair walk from the track itself. Unless you are able to park inside( which 99% of fans can’t as you know) It’s poorly lit on the journey back to the car. Facilities are on par with Leicester, toilets, seating, over priced burger van, but isn’t that the same everywhere. 

One thing the EoES can't be described as is generally gate and go. It really isn't and has been for many years one of the very best racetracks in Britain. 

[Leave some for us.]

5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

One thing the EoES can't be described as is generally gate and go. It really isn't and has been for many years one of the very best racetracks in Britain. 

We all have our own opinions, in my experience it’s whoever gets to the race line first wins. Unless someone can make it work around the curb/grass. It’s very hard to pass an opponent once they get on that golden line. Fast yes, exciting I’m afraid not for me 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Leave some for us.
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[IainB]

46 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I think its generally accepted that when building the track and stadium they made a bit if a horlicks of the shape but a lot of work has gone into widening and improving it. Sounds like there are one or two issues with the surface but it's posted on here far more often than ever before that the racing is good nowadays and that's a very positive thing.

I also think the better quality of rider that is now participating in the CL has helped, the lesser ability riders still tend to struggle to get around BP comfortably

[Teromaafan]

3 hours ago, iainb said:

I also think the better quality of rider that is now participating in the CL has helped, the lesser ability riders still tend to struggle to get around BP comfortably

Spot on. Any visiting riders reading this forum might develop a negative mindset and think they have a ready made excuse before the meeting starts. The better riders prepared to attack the track have contributed to some great racing so far this season at Leicester.

[Honey Monster]

Kyle Howarth got it spot on a couple of weeks ago in hie post match interview.

He said the more you attack the track, the more you get out of it. 
There have been some cracking races there this season. Unfortunately, all teams are not equal.

[Steve Shovlar]

I have been to Leicester about ten times now. I have to say it was so bad that I swore I would never go back. It was gate, hold your position out of bend two and that was that. The promotion first of all denied there was anything wrong with the track. Totally in denial. But finally they brought the bends in and racing did fractionally improve. It took a while but last season I saw a very good meeting there, and the playoff semi had lots of passing. This season there was again passing, but the track was rough on the first and second bends. Need Terry, our track guy, to be employed to get it like he has got Wimborne Road. 

And to think. They could have put in a Belle Vue or Bydgoszcz, but instead got it so wrong it’s impossible to actually believe.

 

[Bagpuss]

Let's hope it doesn't take as long to get 'Terry' or someone similar in as it did for Poole, was at least ten years of bumps and holes wasn't it? Might have been longer.