Bandits4eva Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Osirian08 said: Incredibly arrogant comment... if it was that easy to wave a magic wand and "raise money" every club would have done it already Not arrogant at all thank you! Edinburgh have a fantastic fan group that has helped support the club with thousands of pounds… Berwick have the Supporters Club and in teaming with the promotion got the 5-1 draw in motion.. £10 a month from fans to join but they’ve got the chance to win each month so it’s a win win for both promotion and fans… so far that has given over 25k into the club… Newcastle eventually twigged on and got the same sort of thing going… it can be done even in the current climate this country is in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: The guess, and I did say that was all it was, was based on just having a second ambulance. The £800 you quote is for the entire medical team of a minimum of 7 to include a doctor or paramedic. Ambulance, driver and paramedic, not the rest of the medical team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OML Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Happy Hunter said: I don't very often come to the aid of any promoter but you need to bear in mind the costs incurred by them even though the meeting was abandoned. A good chunk of this will be offset by the tenner a head (£18 in the case of those who don't return) they've taken from the fans with only 2 races of wages to pay for. A short term fix but it will only come back to bite them with smaller future crowds when fans walk away from the sport feeling they've been ripped off again, which they have. Anything other than free admission to a future meeting will be a PR disaster for them. I'm sure this is what the better run teams with forward thinking promoters would be doing. Edited April 21, 2022 by OML 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Not a great start to the season for Brum, regardless of fault I hope it's not the start of the end again as it's been a tough season so far for the new promotion. Fingers crossed for some sunshine in the next few weeks and nice busy terraces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, iainb said: Do each club source their own I wonder or do the BSPL (A) work as an association and negotiate a contract with a national private ambulance provider to provide 2 ambulance cover to around 350 meetings nationally each season. 2 ambulances at each meeting at £800 each equates to around £560,000... that's some bargaining power! But that would mean working as a collective for the greater good of the sport... That would never work... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, IronScorpion said: It is not just the riders though, it is also to cover for the paying (aging) public that could have a problem. This is what i heard from Denmark at least The medical cover/Ambulance was neccesary on site because of the paying spectators. In Denmark at least, they could continue with a speedway meeting without medical cover, as long as all the spectators left the stadium. Plus of course the riders agreed t continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, iris123 said: This is what i heard from Denmark at least The medical cover/Ambulance was neccesary on site because of the paying spectators. In Denmark at least, they could continue with a speedway meeting without medical cover, as long as all the spectators left the stadium. Plus of course the riders agreed t continue Maybe the same in this country also, I don't know, I've always wondered what happens when tracks over here hold training days, whether there's medical cover then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, iainb said: Maybe the same in this country also, I don't know, I've always wondered what happens when tracks over here hold training days, whether there's medical cover then? Yes, there is, would never be able to get insurance otherwise, and you would be silly to run without that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Again it seems Speedway is intent on shooting itself in the foot, through a combination of things most of it being through its own rules, the minimum spectators that attended the meeting should be reimbursed is to attend a meeting of their choice either free or at most for a fiver on production of proof of attendance at last nights meeting, as for the Ambulance situation I am amazed that the BSPL even allow meetings to be staged with only 1 ambulance in attendance we are discussing a dangerous motorsport here not the local village fete, and surely as someone else has suggested its not beyond the realms of imagination for the BSPL to negotiate an annual fee with a private service to provide Ambulances at every official meeting the SJA instantly comes to mind as being an obvious choice, but again the BSPL fails to take a lead, I hope Josh makes a speedy recovery and Birmingham do what is right by the paying public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, mikebv said: But that would mean working as a collective for the greater good of the sport... That would never work... If only there were somebody that could negotiate a deal on behalf of the BSPL and then pocket half of any savings made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, iainb said: Maybe the same in this country also, I don't know, I've always wondered what happens when tracks over here hold training days, whether there's medical cover then? Yes there is medical cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, iainb said: If only there were somebody that could negotiate a deal on behalf of the BSPL and then pocket half of any savings made You don't have Hairy Trussell, (or something like that) in mind now do you? He could set up a company (call it AmbuSpeed International Ltd, maybe?) and as you say, trouser a load of money for himself, before putting the company into liquidation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Just said on WM news Josh has a broken leg, speedy recovery Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 So much hatred for Birmingham on here by so called speedway fans but fear not I'm sure your bile can be directed somewhere else when we are gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Brummiestormer said: So much hatred for Birmingham on here by so called speedway fans but fear not I'm sure your bile can be directed somewhere else when we are gone! What's wrong with saying you should get £13 off a readmission ticket when you see 2 out of 15 heats? I think that is fair. All I know is that out of the last 4 meetings I have attended at Birmingham while on holiday I have only seen 1 meeting reach its conclusion (Coventry). I have seen Mildenhall, Edinburgh, and Leicester be abandoned. Think people remember the Redcar meeting at the start of last year also. Wish Josh a speedy recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brummiestormer said: So much hatred for Birmingham on here by so called speedway fans but fear not I'm sure your bile can be directed somewhere else when we are gone! Rubbish! No hatred at all..... I've been attending bham speedway since the opening in 1971... 39 all draw with Long Eaton ...I can post the programme to prove (in the loft) work it out... 51years... I will not attend again unless i receive a full refund for last night's incompetence! I'll challenge anyone who says that i deserve different! ? Edited April 21, 2022 by GiveusaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hackett Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 When I looked at the details on speedway updates I was pretty shocked about the 6 hour turnaround for an ambulance but anything other than free admission to a future meeting will be a PR disaster for the Brummies. Appreciate that they are in financial difficulty and had some bad luck to start the season BUT if they choose not to offer free admission I can see a number of fans not returning. Edited 2 hours ago by OML 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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