Byker Biker Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Could have a medic or nurse at track to distribute morphine, there are trained personnel I would gather at Brum who could do it Not quite that simple, the medical team need to have "life saving" intervention skills and the facility to undertake them in the event that an apparent minor injury turns out to be more complex than anticipated. A collapsed lung or a cardiac arrest are not uncommon with roadside injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I think Poole are using private ambulance firm now based in SW, who do cover a lot of sporting events. Especially as I think there is no A+E at Poole hospital anymore. Not sure if it is viable for Birmingham to do the same? It needs to be a rule. If its not viable then they shouldn't be running 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Not quite that simple, the medical team need to have "life saving" intervention skills and the facility to undertake them in the event that an apparent minor injury turns out to be more complex than anticipated. A collapsed lung or a cardiac arrest are not uncommon with roadside injuries. I understand that, but any sporting event should not be allowed to go ahead without adequate cover, it should be mandatory that at least 2 ambulaces are available, at least 2 qualified medics should be at the tracks, riders should be allowed to go to the tracks knowing that in such a dangerous sport that their care in the event of an accident is second to none, Imagine this happening in F1, the drivers would be appalled and refuse to race, even Cricket and Tennis have adequate cover, Speedway needs bringing into the 21st century and should be making clubs have proper full cover for medical emergencies, whether that be riders or spectators. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I think Poole are using private ambulance firm now based in SW, who do cover a lot of sporting events. Especially as I think there is no A+E at Poole hospital anymore. Not sure if it is viable for Birmingham to do the same? Vsst majority if tracks have had private ambulance and paramedic for years. Some tracks have 2 ambulances, some have 2 paramedics. 2 ambulances and 1 paramedic can be a problem if paramedic has to go with the ambulance to hospital. 2 paramedics and 1 ambulance is problem if ambulance has to leave stadium. Some NHS Trusts will only prioritise County NHS ambulance. It's easy to blame Promoters. I blame a Government that has destroyed the NHS and mugged taxpayers off 37 billion to Dido Harding and Michelle Mone for PPE that didn't exist and companies created by MPs to mug us off In Britain's second city a wait for a 999 ambulance at 6 hours is the norm Thats down to Boris Johnson NOT Nigel Tolley and Laurence Rogers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Having to debate the level or lack of cover for a dangerous sport is quite embarrassing from the outside. No wonder the sport is a mess when the level of medical cover becomes a financial option. If it keeps Brum afloat this season I will gladly arrange for loads of plasters and paracetamol tablets to be available for race days (sourced from Wilko obviously to keep costs down). As farcical as the situation may seem, the sport needs Brum, but they need to demonstrate that they can be taken seriously with what ever financial resource they have to meet essential health and safety criteria. Oh.. and best wishes to Auty. If he is determined to continue in the sport, I have nothing but admiration for him, since his current outgoings surely fall short of his recent earnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: I understand that, but any sporting event should not be allowed to go ahead without adequate cover, it should be mandatory that at least 2 ambulaces are available, at least 2 qualified medics should be at the tracks, riders should be allowed to go to the tracks knowing that in such a dangerous sport that their care in the event of an accident is second to none, Imagine this happening in F1, the drivers would be appalled and refuse to race, even Cricket and Tennis have adequate cover, Speedway needs bringing into the 21st century and should be making clubs have proper full cover for medical emergencies, whether that be riders or spectators. Am sure many would find it very distressing, if say Max Verstappens baby monitor malfunctioned during a virtual safety car and, they had to wait for county ambulance to bring extra tissues!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbat1875 Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Sorry mate, I had to phone an ambulance for my wife not so long ago, there was no 6 hour wait, the ambulance was at my home within 40 mins, thankfully it turned out to be only Kidney Stones, but there was no way it was anywhere near 6 hours waiting. Speedway is a very dangerous sport and should be ready to cater for an emergency, the risk of a serious injury at a speedway track is far greater than most sports, it needs to be sorted because having no ambulance in a sporting evnt in todays day and age is totally unacceptable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Annoying when that happens, especially after the Redcar meeting in June 2021 had to be abandoned for the same reason. Lessons not being learned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, HGould said: Vsst majority if tracks have had private ambulance and paramedic for years. Some tracks have 2 ambulances, some have 2 paramedics. 2 ambulances and 1 paramedic can be a problem if paramedic has to go with the ambulance to hospital. 2 paramedics and 1 ambulance is problem if ambulance has to leave stadium. Some NHS Trusts will only prioritise County NHS ambulance. It's easy to blame Promoters. I blame a Government that has destroyed the NHS and mugged taxpayers off 37 billion to Dido Harding and Michelle Mone for PPE that didn't exist and companies created by MPs to mug us off In Britain's second city a wait for a 999 ambulance at 6 hours is the norm Thats down to Boris Johnson NOT Nigel Tolley and Laurence Rogers You should join the SNP you would be most welcome with these comments. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Sorry mate, I had to phone an ambulance for my wife not so long ago, there was no 6 hour wait, the ambulance was at my home within 40 mins, thankfully it turned out to be only Kidney Stones, but there was no way it was anywhere near 6 hours waiting. Speedway is a very dangerous sport and should be ready to cater for an emergency, the risk of a serious injury at a speedway track is far greater than most sports, it needs to be sorted because having no ambulance in a sporting evnt in todays day and age is totally unacceptable Thats great for you Gerbat and I hope Mrs G is on the mend. Waiting times in parts of West Midlands though are horrendous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 New promoters are not having much luck. Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 I believe a part of the 6 hour problem was that, as Josh was deemed to be under the care of a Paramedic, he was lower priority than someone who has chest pains etc. at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbeyWilks Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Did anyone catch the reduction price on the tannoy for the next meeting? I think I heard wrong… Edited April 20, 2022 by AbbeyWilks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Maybe it's about time that folk realise that, the NHS is in dire straits and only can be run by donations/charity or whatever. It may push the insurance premiums up, but that's just the way it is?,,, you can't rely on 'free' forever!,,, someone or something has to pay! We do it's called tax. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Gambo said: I believe a part of the 6 hour problem was that, as Josh was deemed to be under the care of a Paramedic, he was lower priority than someone who has chest pains etc. at home. They won't send out an ambulance "just in case" when they are struggling to deal with actual emergency calls. That's the Catch 22 between speedway needing the cover and an emergency service operating beyond its capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Terrible to read of this abandonment. Couldn’t Auty have been driven to hospital by one of his crew in his van? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Utter shambles, doing the reputation of Birmingham speedway and the new promotion no good what so ever. First on Birmingham`s list of priorities should be a second ambulance or a medical room at the stadium where an injured rider can stay while a county ambulance turns up, but more important a second paramedic is a must so a meeting such as last night could continue. Best wishes to Josh Auty on a speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 £8 reduction off readmission price of a future meeting according to BSPZzzz regulations. So the net cost to fans last night was £5 per race. Feel sorry for the Berwick fans for such a wasted journey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 When I used to be a promoter we would have an ambulance, medics with an ambulance 'car' plus a cuts man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I don't know the area but assume there must be an ambulance in fairly close proximity being it's a city track? At Glasgow the track ambulance has taken an injured rider to the hospital and came back on several occasions in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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