King's Lynn v Ipswich. League Cup 7/4/22

[scoobydoo]

9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Should be 28 days from first official fixture; 31st March. 

28th April v Ipswich (H) should be Kildemand's return

First offical meeting : if its from Kings Lynn's then he could stay until mid May as no meetings yet,

although if from March 31st and the next home meeting v Peterborough was to be called off as well he may not get to ride at all at home for Lynn 

Edited April 7, 2022 by scoobydoo

[Bagpuss]

FWIW the chances if rain are higher than 50% today going by the current forecast, and calling meetings off based on West might happen is exactly what they do in Poland which is presumably the speedway benchmark. Although that's often based on torrential rain rather than showers. 

That said I'm pretty sure today's call off is down to crowd levels and not a waterlogged track. There is a reason that half if Lynn's home meetings are local derbies and I'm sure maximising the attendances for those is a significant part of the business plan.

[scoobydoo]

Im about 17 miles from Lynn and theres high wind gusts  (not from Bald Blokes beer intake i might add) no rain but with the AFA being situated near open fields and the elements maybe H&S has advised not to run due to possible crowd risks.

[IainB]

14 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

They are obviously petrified of dodgy weather putting people off resulting in a small crowd and consequently losing money, that's all it can be as it's only showers forecast. I won't go nowadays if there is rain about so I can kind of understand but more than 24 hours beforehand seems extremely cautious to me, especially in the school holidays. 

maybe if they made the meetings more attractive to attend in the first place they wouldn't have this problem 

[Bagpuss]

22 minutes ago, iainb said:

maybe if they made the meetings more attractive to attend in the first place they wouldn't have this problem 

I've no doubt if the weather was lovely like a couple of weeks ago and there was plenty of fuel for everyone then there would be a very healthy crowd tonight, but people don't want to stand in cold, damp conditions and riders not fancying it on a wet night and watching Buster spend hours relaying the track for no reason. We've all been there before.

[Daniel Smith]

7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I've no doubt if the weather was lovely like a couple of weeks ago and there was plenty of fuel for everyone then there would be a very healthy crowd tonight, but people don't want to stand in cold, damp conditions and riders not fancying it on a wet night and watching Buster spend hours relaying the track for no reason. We've all been there before.

Exactly this ^^^

I genuinely hope the 'Day Before' call-offs becomes the norm. 

It's so much better for fans thinking as the previous options used to create real anger. 

Anger at Buster for opening gates

Anger at rider's for refusing to ride

Electricity costs

Fuel costs

Staff expenses 

Etc etc. 

British Speedway clubs can't afford these costs of a call-off & neither can the fans afford the wasted travel. 

Fans need to accept times are different & tight belts are needed. 

Just because a club owned by a multi-millionaire ran a meeting doesn't mean it's financially viable for all. 

 

[LisaColette]

32 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I've no doubt if the weather was lovely like a couple of weeks ago and there was plenty of fuel for everyone then there would be a very healthy crowd tonight, but people don't want to stand in cold, damp conditions and riders not fancying it on a wet night and watching Buster spend hours relaying the track for no reason. We've all been there before.

Ah yes but the chance of a wet night tonight are the same as being dry, that's the point. And then there will be fixture backlog again when weather prob even worse!!

[foreverblue]

28 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Exactly this ^^^

I genuinely hope the 'Day Before' call-offs becomes the norm. 

It's so much better for fans thinking as the previous options used to create real anger. 

Anger at Buster for opening gates

Anger at rider's for refusing to ride

Electricity costs

Fuel costs

Staff expenses 

Etc etc. 

British Speedway clubs can't afford these costs of a call-off & neither can the fans afford the wasted travel. 

Fans need to accept times are different & tight belts are needed. 

Just because a club owned by a multi-millionaire ran a meeting doesn't mean it's financially viable for all. 

 

So let's hope for a dry summer otherwise you will have a backlog of meetings to run at the end of the season which won't be called off early. 

[Bagpuss]

29 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Ah yes but the chance of a wet night tonight are the same as being dry, that's the point. And then there will be fixture backlog again when weather prob even worse!!

I don't disagree at all, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. It's already cold, windy and a bit showery, some would have already decided to stay away. Grachan is right that they risk putting keen people off but I can also see why they've done it when they need healthy crowds to survive. 

[LisaColette]

2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I don't disagree at all, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. It's already cold, windy and a bit showery, some would have already decided to stay away. Grachan is right that they risk putting keen people off but I can also see why they've done it when they need healthy crowds to survive. 

Sorry but that does sound a bit lame to me. I'd be saying the same thing if my club did it. They do realise England is generally cold and wet in March, April, Oct. So really season May- Sept? But that never happens cos of fixture back log.

So why didn't Poole rain off yesterday with 80% chance of heavy showers. Not light but heavy and they didn't even materialise!! It was really windy last night too but crowd wasn't too bad I thought. If you use that comparison it does look a bit ridiculous. 

[TINYS]

12 hours ago, stu219 said:

What’s with these fuel shortages? No problems at all here as far as I know. Maybe Norfolk different?

No fuel in Lynn Buster went first thing and bought the lot for his tractors.

[Bagpuss]

31 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Sorry but that does sound a bit lame to me. I'd be saying the same thing if my club did it. They do realise England is generally cold and wet in March, April, Oct. So really season May- Sept? But that never happens cos of fixture back log.

So why didn't Poole rain off yesterday with 80% chance of heavy showers. Not light but heavy and they didn't even materialise!! It was really windy last night too but crowd wasn't too bad I thought. If you use that comparison it does look a bit ridiculous. 

Again, don't disagree and I'm making the assumption that it's a financial thing. Maybe Poole aren't so worried about crowd levels being hot by forecasts because you are running at a cheaper level? Maybe you are less affected anyway as people travel less far? 

You are right, fixtures will end up being crammed in, it happens every year in both leagues.

[FromBendThree]

Good call in my view. Attedance would have poor. I had this one marked down to attend but I would not have put a wheel on the M11 with the forecast as it is.

[Bald Bloke]

14 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

I can never follow that logic I'm afraid. You will save £70 tomorrow. Why not just put that aside for the new date?

I see what your saying Sid. I went for the short answer in my earlier post. i'll try and explain.

My disposable income looks likely to be less this year, as things are going up all over the place. Our heating oil has doubled since last year for example.. Now £1000 to fill it at the moment, also fuel etc..

With there being 3 more meetings this season at the AFA than last, making it 15, i have agreed to attend 10, if things stay as they are now. I'm hoping to squeeze another one in at then end of the season if we get a play off place. We shall see on that one.

So with most meetings spread out , i'll probably miss one of the 2 within 4 days of each other now, as they are so close together, where as i would normally do Ippo and Boro, i may miss one of them now. if i was going to all the meetings, i would agree  with your comment. But as things stand i can't.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by Bald Bloke

[Bagpuss]

Now 80% and 90% chance of rain in Lynn before 7pm.... its starting to look like they might have got this spot on.

[Bald Bloke]

7 miles from track. It's been blowing a gale here all morning, and has just started to rain lightly (12.30 pm).

[Mimmo]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Again, don't disagree and I'm making the assumption that it's a financial thing. Maybe Poole aren't so worried about crowd levels being hot by forecasts because you are running at a cheaper level? Maybe you are less affected anyway as people travel less far? 

You are right, fixtures will end up being crammed in, it happens every year in both leagues.

Poole finished up by watering their track last night. But people I know that were there, said it was so cold, it took the shine of what was a good race meeting, despite the score.

 

[IainB]

4 hours ago, foreverblue said:

So let's hope for a dry summer otherwise you will have a backlog of meetings to run at the end of the season which won't be called off early. 

Or even run into November

4 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

I don't disagree at all, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. It's already cold, windy and a bit showery,

Showers in April... who would have thunk it?

[bigcatdiary]

2 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Now 80% and 90% chance of rain in Lynn before 7pm.... its starting to look like they might have got this spot on.

They did, Dale has posted pictures on Facebook, the tracks under water

[semion]

I was about to phone Minors & Brady to come out and value my house to sell.  As it’s forecast for  rain I’ve gone with Stobart & Hurrell.

Edited April 7, 2022 by semion