sandking072 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Would anyone have the time for heat 11 last night please? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, tellboy said: What i don't really understand in speedway is,if you get some really good races,why aren't the other races the same?Same track,different outcomes.King's Lynn rode Sheffield in ht12 which was a very good race,next race it was Sheffield v Belle Vue which you would think would be good with Zagar and Fricke in the mix but it was the opposite.Same track/conditions totally different outcome,why?Can't particularly blame the track as proved in the race before. I thought it was quite obvious last night that BV and Wolves have very little chance of winning the thing, they looked disinterested at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, iainb said: For me... the track needs to be "right" from heat 1... what's the use in waiting for the track "coming to the riders" in heat 12, there's only a handful of races left and riders that had a difficult night up to that point have probably lost interest by then. The track needs to be like it was in heat 12 from heat 1 and kept in a similar state to that all night I think it's wishful thinking. The sport has never been like that. tracks have never provided perfect racing from heat 1 to heat 20, Not now, Not ever, not in the GPs, Not in Poland. And despite what we of a certain age would like to believe, certainly not ever in the past. The 60's 70's and 80's provided as many garbage tracks back then as we have today. and the racing wasn't over taking every race, despite what we might like to believe. It's a lovely thought and it's something to strive for, but are our expectations for the sport too high? Don't get me wrong. The track materials like the clay based shale is useless, but that is the best surface for the stock cars. Without the stock cars, at Lynn. There is no speedway, simple as that. One pays for the other 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 56 minutes ago, sandking072 said: Would anyone have the time for heat 11 last night please? Thanks in advance. 58.52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I thought it was quite obvious last night that BV and Wolves have very little chance of winning the thing, they looked disinterested at times. Wolves yes,but Belle Vue.Belle Vue were only 4pts behind the leaders overall in the competition a win and they would of been top or joint top at the very least.In this meeting they went into their last race against Sheffield 2pts up on them.A race win or a 2nd and 3rd would have seen them into the semi final.So if they should have been interested as they could have been leading the competition was it not for their last heat.So the lack of racing sometimes is at the feet of the riders and not the track all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, tellboy said: What i don't really understand in speedway is,if you get some really good races,why aren't the other races the same?Same track,different outcomes.King's Lynn rode Sheffield in ht12 which was a very good race,next race it was Sheffield v Belle Vue which you would think would be good with Zagar and Fricke in the mix but it was the opposite.Same track/conditions totally different outcome,why?Can't particularly blame the track as proved in the race before. A number of factors. It isn't obviously just the track which affects the quality of racing (and that to me is not necessarily just passing) but the riders involved too. In my view, the engine manufacturers and tuners are killing the sport because the bikes are so unpredictable on anything other than totally smooth slick tracks. They'll be riding on concrete next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: A number of factors. It isn't obviously just the track which affects the quality of racing (and that to me is not necessarily just passing) but the riders involved too. In my view, the engine manufacturers and tuners are killing the sport because the bikes are so unpredictable on anything other than totally smooth slick tracks. They'll be riding on concrete next I wonder if it's effort put in by the riders. Fricke and Zagar were disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Redpanther said: Always has done He looked round for his partner on the last bend didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, sandking072 said: Would anyone have the time for heat 11 last night please? Thanks in advance. I've checked on speedway updates and it's not there either so i don't think ref announced it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggytastic Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, iainb said: For me... the track needs to be "right" from heat 1... what's the use in waiting for the track "coming to the riders" in heat 12, there's only a handful of races left and riders that had a difficult night up to that point have probably lost interest by then. The track needs to be like it was in heat 12 from heat 1 and kept in a similar state to that all night So why not have a junior/development meeting before the main event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Baldyman said: Hume for Doyle not King,,, typical Hawkins Thought that was a strange choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 15 hours ago, iainb said: What's his form like abroad, do you know? Rode like a novice last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, TINYS said: Thought that was a strange choice. Doyle doesn’t play golf obviously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 17 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Another lynn sun delay. What a surprise Becoming the norm nowaday's unfortunately, i know rider safety is paramount but i don't remember it happening years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 The PA system in the main stand is garbage can hardly hear the announcer, been like it for years it,s time to sort it out PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, TINYS said: I've checked on speedway updates and it's not there either so i don't think ref announced it. 58.52 i did put on here this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just some of my thoughts on last night's meeting which I watched on the live stream:- 1. I think the overall coverage is very good. The presenters do a sound job and there were plenty of rider/manager interviews. Commentators made one or two errors but not a problem and overall very good. 2. Very easy to sign onto the stream and who would have thought three years ago that we would now be able to watch live meetings in the British Championship etc. Great innovation. 3. I thought Belle Vue would have really kicked on in this tournament with top riders like Fricke, Kurtz and Zagar. Both BV riders were pretty disappointing last night and has Fricke stagnated to a degree? 4. Well done again to Jason Doyle. Always a pleasure to watch and an absolute credit to British Speedway. Always gives his all as he did again last night. 5. Bomber having a great season and another fantastic servant of British Speedway. Always great to watch. 6. Jack Holder and Adam Ellis very hit and miss. Holder can look great one minute and then pretty average the next. 7. Josh Pickering is another very entertaining rider and I can see him becoming the new Doyley in years to come. 8. I thought the track seemed to ride OK but as others have said, it seems to have lost its reputation as being one of the best passing tracks in the country. 9. If the powers that be continue with this competition next year they need to have a big re-think as regards the inclusion (or not) of the rising stars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, TINYS said: The PA system in the main stand is garbage can hardly hear the announcer, been like it for years it,s time to sort it out PLEASE. Waste of time asking, I asked Nathan Hollands several times and he said if it went any louder, some people complain its too loud.Its rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potman Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 hours ago, TINYS said: I've checked on speedway updates and it's not there either so i don't think ref announced it. 58.52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandking072 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, tellboy said: 58.52 i did put on here this morning. Brilliant! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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