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1 hour ago, iainb said:

Just goes to show what a lottery calling meetings off based on a weather is. 90 minutes before start time it was forecast 80% chance of heavy rain from 8pm, its now 9pm and still dry... thank goodness!

Meeting came alive in the end, it's a shame that many of the riders opted not to come round and wave at those of us that are here

It was raining slightly from about 8.30pm but it didn’t affect anything

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20 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Behave.

I am. We're that bad. It's blatantly obvious already losing by double figures in every league meeting and now tonight where our top two riders finished stone last on their home track.

 

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Don't know how it came across on the stream but watching it live, it was a good meeting which got better as the racing developed.  As the promotion were keen to get it finished early and I was texting updates I didn't get chance to go to the toilet until the gap between heats 10 & 11 when the announcer was interviewing Fricke, I was regretting the refillable soft drink at the Harvester long before then!

First comment is that it is nice to park on tarmac rather than a muddy field - 1 improvement on last year, I'd say the crowd was slightly down compared to the twice I visited the EoESg last year.

The only rising stars that looked competitive in this company were Brennan & Thomas, guessing Lemon thought Douglas may have issues swapping to his second bike - mentioned by Masters when interviewed so took a punt using Brennan.  In fairness Douglas & Masters gave up chasing Fricke and team rode Brennan out of it toward the end of that heat.  Thomas kept Kurtz honest for a few laps.

Gate 4 appeared to have a big advantage at the start which disappeared by the end.

Without doubt the best ride of the night was MPT passing both Witches in heat 7, other than that Panthers were disappointing - the couple of times Harris gated a queue formed behind him, but I only recall Holder passing him, it was obvious Holder was way quicker throughout, Harris only got in front from the gate by grass tracking to push Holder wide.

King was the slowest non RS on show, when he did make the gate and he did a few times he went backwards.

IMO Fricke was the quickest rider on the night, with Holder & Doyle not far behind, think Belle Vue made a mistake choosing gate 4 in the semi, advantage had gone.  Kings Lynn probably deserved to win, best pairing overall and their 7-2 over their local rivals was the best heat.  I had moved from start/finish straight stand to first bend so I didn't get stuck on car park for final, Lawson was obviously looking what was going on behind him throughout, because of fence & no elevation couldn't see if Ellis clipped him entering the last lap but it looked like he did.

Other than that Ellis was largely anonymous!  Sheffield got to final without me really noticing him.  Similar story for Kurtz, who is proving rather an inconsistent enigma, the only thing I remember him doing of note was making a mistake that allowed Ellis to pass him, nothing like peerless previous visit to Alwalton.

Wolves seemed to start strong, Masters looked good, Douglas looked slow.  Douglas swapped bikes and was much quicker, but Masters faded as the dirt went wide, yet he was the first rider to sweeping outside pass overcoming in Lawson heat 6.

Nearly a month until the next round at Foxhall!  Lets hope Peterborough don't declare their top 4 unavailable and go with three RS riders.  I can se some iffy pairings towards the end of this from the teams out of contention - the only negative comment, for now.

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29 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Predictable Witches - King has a poor record in Heats 13 & 15 anyway, so four similar races in this meeting have proved he's not in any sort of form.

It wasnt so much that he got passed, but how he got passed so easily.. 

Up the inside, leaving a huge gap to come through with seemingly no thought to move over to the kerb, even though he had plenty of room to do so, which would have blocked the run of the rider(s) behind...

Until he was behind that is, whereby he then rode the inside line for the rest of the race..

Reading the Ipswich thread it seems quite a common occurrence this season, ie chasing dirt that isnt there and getting passed up the inside....

Lost probably 8 points or so I would say from being passed whilst in "good" positions...

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7 hours ago, Redpanther said:

In all honestly Lynn more than deserved that, constantly looking for eachother and Pickerings never say die attitude. Track was marginally better than previous weeks due too the tractors not coming out and keeping the grip on the inside all night…. There was an actual outside line. 
 

Panthers overall were pretty poor tbh, too come last at your home track isn’t a good start at all… personally think something is up this season amongst team/management and so on 

To be fair to Bomber...

He probably didnt overtake some riders as he must have been a bit confused as to who his team mate on the night actually was.... :D

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8 hours ago, Baldyman said:

Good job Doyle was there,,, or that could have been more than embarrassing 

Just a shame he didn’t realise it was a Pairs event, the only time Doyle looked for his partner was when he crossed the finishing line.

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10 hours ago, chrismorton said:

Panthers woes continue...and how is this format any good for these "rising stars"..all this way to ride in 1 race cold  against 2 top guys who have been dialed in all night...who's brainchild was that?

Said this last night, what chance do they have, they are already up against it, seems a fairly pointless exercise in bringing them in a later race, would make more sense too have too use them in the first outing so then at least everyone goes in cold rather than chucking them into the fire essentially 

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10 hours ago, chrismorton said:

I wish they could find a way that it doesn't take 10 races for the track to generate a racing line...

Wouldn’t we all, not one tractor on the track from heat 1 onwards and the whole 17 races done in an hour and a half.

And to be fair the racing was pretty non existent for the first half and then some decent races in the later stages.

Lynn deserved the win, they rode as a pair, not many others did.

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A non event which will have provoked  financial concerns. Well done Lynn and at least the organisers  got through the meeting speedily 

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2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

Wouldn’t we all, not one tractor on the track from heat 1 onwards and the whole 17 races done in an hour and a half.

And to be fair the racing was pretty non existent for the first half and then some decent races in the later stages.

Lynn deserved the win, they rode as a pair, not many others did.

Why is that always done if there is rain in the air, surely if it rains on a slick, dry track it's too dangerous to carry on anyway? The racing that Peterborough should produce :(

Apart from that, well chuffed that our guys won the first round with some determined racing :D:D

Re the lack of fans, I sincerely hope money was made from the streaming. The weather put me off attending in person but I bought the streaming....

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17 minutes ago, Trees said:

Why is that always done if there is rain in the air, surely if it rains on a slick, dry track it's too dangerous to carry on anyway? The racing that Peterborough should produce :(

Apart from that, well chuffed that our guys won the first round with some determined racing :D:D

Re the lack of fans, I sincerely hope money was made from the streaming. The weather put me off attending in person but I bought the streaming....

What was the streaming like, tempted to try it for the future meetings.

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12 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Adam Ellis not happy on SM! 

I thought riders are constantly turning left at P'boro, it's essentially a circle :D

Difficult to comment without having seen it but very few gripes about it on here. 

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44 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I thought riders are constantly turning left at P'boro, it's essentially a circle :D

Difficult to comment without having seen it but very few gripes about it on here. 

Quite right Bagpuss.You are pretty much turning left all the time at Alwalton.Ellis imo could have gone outside or inside but chose to take the same line as Lawson as he was on the quicker line.If the man in front of you is slower you have to take a different line to pass him surely.

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57 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Adam Ellis not happy on SM! 

 

43 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

I thought riders are constantly turning left at P'boro, it's essentially a circle :D

Difficult to comment without having seen it but very few gripes about it on here. 

So he should be!!

A victim of the scoring system requiring Lawson to manufacture a pass to avoid last as opposed to being encouraged to fight for the race win

Looking back as much as forwards for 2 laps acting as a rolling road block and then turning left at a slower speed was only ever gonna end one way....

Very lucky it wasnt a more serious incident - Ellis unlucky to be excluded IMO

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Just now, tellboy said:

Quite right Bagpuss.You are pretty much turning left all the time at Alwalton.Ellis imo could have gone outside or inside but chose to take the same line as Lawson as he was on the quicker line.If the man in front of you is slower you have to take a different line to pass him surely.

He had taken a different line but Lawson then turned left onto it........

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