Diamonds85 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Does anyone know what the race format for this will be? I am not aware of any 6 team pairs race format? Perhaps the home team will field their 3rd and 4th in the averages also to make 7 teams? And then it would be like the SON format. Sorry if this question has been asked already, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere if it has? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Polish fans don't seem to care much about these pairs/riders championship competitions. These sort of line up would get a far bigger crowd in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Does anyone know what the race format for this will be? I am not aware of any 6 team pairs race format? Perhaps the home team will field their 3rd and 4th in the averages also to make 7 teams? And then it would be like the SON format. Sorry if this question has been asked already, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere if it has? Many thanks What difference does the number of pairs make? Its just ride every other pair once surely!! Semi and final if desired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: What difference does the number of pairs make? Its just ride every other pair once surely!! Semi and final if desired Exactly. 6 teams racing each other once is 6 x 5 / 2 = 15 heats. That would be perfectly fair, although they're bound to want to add a semi and a final Don't understand why the OP would want to add a seventh team. That would need 7 x 6 / 2 = 21 heats before the semi and final, which would be too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 17 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Does anyone know what the race format for this will be? I am not aware of any 6 team pairs race format? Perhaps the home team will field their 3rd and 4th in the averages also to make 7 teams? And then it would be like the SON format. Sorry if this question has been asked already, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere if it has? Many thanks If there was a second home pair, would they be "under instructions" to lose 7 2 against the first home pair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 4:03 PM, PotteringAround said: Exactly. 6 teams racing each other once is 6 x 5 / 2 = 15 heats. That would be perfectly fair, although they're bound to want to add a semi and a final Don't understand why the OP would want to add a seventh team. That would need 7 x 6 / 2 = 21 heats before the semi and final, which would be too long. I'm just not aware of a 6 team pairs meeting format ever taking place? So I don't know how it would be ran... I'm guessing that there will be a new race format created, which is what I'm asking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) I believe it will be:- 15 Heats. Top scorer direct to Final. 2nd v 3rd in S/F. Winner to Final. 4, 3, 2, 0 Race points. Championship points: 1st 15 points, 2nd 10, 3rd 7, 4th 5, 5th 3, 6th 1. Edited April 4, 2022 by Gambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 team pair format would surely be fairer than the traditional 7 team pair format. The pair drawn in position 7 in the traditional format are always at a huge disadvantage as in their first ride they're against a pair that have already had 4 racing laps to assess the track. If the format is adhered to and the best two riders from each team compete at every event. It's not often that you get to see Fricke v Doyle @ EoESg or Harris v King @ Monmore. Sadly I suspect the top riders from each time will often have a a stubbed toe in Poland and the likes of Worrall, Wright & Heeps will appear more often than Fricke, Doyle & Holder. The only issue is do the home fans turn up, to see so many heats when their riders are not involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Gambo said: I believe it will be:- 15 Heats. Top scorer direct to Final. 2nd v 3rd in S/F. Winner to Final. 4, 3, 2, 0 Race points. Championship points: 1st 15 points, 2nd 10, 3rd 7, 4th 5, 5th 3, 6th 1. If you don’t know no one else does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) I've tried to put some sort of race format together for this competition, it's not perfect, anyone got any input? Edit: Please ignore Sheffield and Wolverhampton's bye pass to the semis and finals I'm guessing there will be a semi and a final.... Always is... Edited April 9, 2022 by Diamonds85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) Apologies - tried to post race card and failed. See next post Edited April 11, 2022 by Wee Eck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 The format is shown in the SCB regulations: SR 16.6.1 (page 147). The whole rule book can be viewed on the SCB website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Wee Eck said: The format is shown in the SCB regulations: SR 16.6.1 (page 147). The whole rule book can be viewed on the SCB website. Wonderful thanks, I wish I knew this earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 9:11 PM, Wee Eck said: I totally agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 Does it matter,, turn up on the day,, and the format will be in the programme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Baldyman said: Does it matter,, turn up on the day,, and the format will be in the programme what if you dont buy a programme . whats the format then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, jenga said: what if you dont buy a programme . whats the format then ? Same as it will be if you buy one 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, jenga said: what if you dont buy a programme . whats the format then ? Just bloody watch it and find out Live on the edge and don't buy a programme,,, it makes you feel alive and care free Edited April 11, 2022 by Baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Baldyman said: Does it matter,, turn up on the day,, and the format will be in the programme just to be devils advocate what happens if you pay your c£20 entrance fee buy the programme and find out there are only 10 heats? Or your team only appears three times? would you buy a tin with no label on it? So it does matter. It shouldn't have taken someone to peruse the rulebook to discover the format. To be fair I dare say the promoters would have released it nearer the time but you can't expect people to pay money for unknown content. unless you're running a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, enotian said: just to be devils advocate what happens if you pay your c£20 entrance fee buy the programme and find out there are only 10 heats? Or your team only appears three times? would you buy a tin with no label on it? So it does matter. It shouldn't have taken someone to peruse the rulebook to discover the format. To be fair I dare say the promoters would have released it nearer the time but you can't expect people to pay money for unknown content. unless you're running a lottery. But that's not going to happen is it,,, there will be more than 10 heats and they will race more than 3 times,,so daft thing to say really. Do football fans say I want to know the formation before I go? Speedway is seen as far to nerdy to young uns,,, it's a tag it needs to lose if it has any chance of attracting younger clientele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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