someone Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Hopefully the new era will have seen new people watching, so thank goodness it was not a boring meeting. Lambert seems to have the same problem as last year, though, starting very strong then just fading away as the night goes on. Tatum and Louis were a bit rough last year when they stood in for Nigel, but they just need time together to gel. So I hope they have been given the whole season and are not just a short term fix. Presumably they will also be working on the Premiership meetings, which will help them improve more quickly. I wonder what Dave Rowe was doing for Discovery if not commentating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: So you saying the people in Russia get a fair vote. Most of Putins opposers are dead or in jail. A Russian member of Parliament said that parliament was never consulted about these “special operations” in Ukraine. The soldiers did not know what they were going into, some reports they were told nothing, others they would be welcome with open arms and be home within a week. You cannot defend the blatant killing (murder) of ordinary citizens, shelling of hospitals, normal housing, the brutal rapes. Too late when the investigations into war crimes are produced. As I said listen to both sides and make your own judgment, when your informed from one side and the other is banned, that should raise your curiosity at least, I’m not defending Russia or Putin or Ukraine but I will say all is not what we are being told to think (again) Edited April 30, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PragueMagpie Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As I said listen to both sides and make your own judgment, when your informed from one side and the other is banned, that should raise your curiosity at least, I’m not defending Russia or Putin or Ukraine but I will say all is not what we are being told to think Russian athletes are banned. You can go online and see the rubbish that they are spewing on Russian tv. as for the coverage. I enjoyed tonight. Thought it was an all round good production. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 I think we all expected a gate 'n' go fest but racing was pretty good. Liked the 'less busy' graphics. Difficult night for Kelvin but he was a true professional. My one beef was the refusal to acknowledge the existence of Artem & Emil. (I did fast forward thru a few bits so may have missed a reference, but in the preamble they clearly referred to ALL the world's best speedway riders - which simply wasn't true). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, someone said: Hopefully the new era will have seen new people watching, so thank goodness it was not a boring meeting. Lambert seems to have the same problem as last year, though, starting very strong then just fading away as the night goes on. Tatum and Louis were a bit rough last year when they stood in for Nigel, but they just need time together to gel. So I hope they have been given the whole season and are not just a short term fix. Presumably they will also be working on the Premiership meetings, which will help them improve more quickly. I wonder what Dave Rowe was doing for Discovery if not commentating? Hosting the highlights programme on Tuesday evening. Edited April 30, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PragueMagpie Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, arnieg said: I think we all expected a gate 'n' go fest but racing was pretty good. Liked the 'less busy' graphics. Difficult night for Kelvin but he was a true professional. My one beef was the refusal to acknowledge the existence of Artem & Emil. (I did fast forward thru a few bits so may have missed a reference, but in the preamble they clearly referred to ALL the world's best speedway riders - which simply wasn't true). To be fair they mentioned both at the start. Then Laguta was mentioned a couple of times during the commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Enjoyable 1st Round. Thought Zmarzlik might be struggling at one point but he always pulls it out of the bag when required. He may be so good that the series is a race for silver but some of the action he provides is awesome. Like a pre-injuries Marc Marquez level above the competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As I said listen to both sides and make your own judgment, when your informed from one side and the other is banned, that should raise your curiosity at least, I’m not defending Russia or Putin or Ukraine but I will say all is not what we are being told to think (again) Do you mean “if so and so does this, and thingymajig does that” one nullifies the other, so it doesn’t matter. Thing is today, there are so many bad things happening in the world, and it gets publicised so much, people tend to “put it to one side” it’s “become normal”. “It doesn’t matter”. All lives matter. There are 10’s of thousands killed in Ukraine, young men, older men, women, children…. nothing to do with Putins “special operation”. There are mothers in Russia, their young sons will probably never be returned even in a body bag because bodies of soldiers are just buried…..consumables to satisfy the desire of a nutter…….. it’s like Hitler all over again. And just like the 2nd world war…… the “world” knows atrocities are happening and doing nothing…until it’s all over then court cases will be held, maybe in 10 or 20 years perpetrator’s that are still alive will face a trial. It’s all too late 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post r8gdp Posted April 30, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As I said listen to both sides and make your own judgment, when your informed from one side and the other is banned, that should raise your curiosity at least, I’m not defending Russia or Putin or Ukraine but I will say all is not what we are being told to think (again) Russia should not be in Ukraine full stop no arguments not their country 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Anyway this is a speedway forum let’s leave politics and world politics to another thread tonights gp I thought good entertainment commentary good the only problem is who’s s going to stop smarzlik winning and going through the card 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 can see Zmarzlik doing the same evry GP, he just ups his game come semi and final. the speed he gets going into corners is incredible 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 hours ago, HGould said: May be they will have to find an experienced commentator from other genres of motorsports to try to take things forwards. What are you talking about? Kelvin Tatum is an experienced commentator, in fact he's probably got more experience now in commentating than he had riding speedway! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Steve0 said: Why use Scott Nicholls when they could use Brando - who is a professional presenter? I thought Brando was a professional floor manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Just got in, just watched it... Do you think that his peers will ever think to ride the inside line to block Zmarzlik? If he goes around you then fair enough.. But dont give the fella a free pass... A truly superb rider but FFS he will nine times our of ten spear the bike at you into turn three... Hint. Ride the white line against him if you get in front because he is faster than you.. Five years at least he has done the same dive bomb and been allowed to do it.. As for Woffy?.. A gradual erosion of capability which is perfectly natural given age and responsibilities increase... Far too many times over the past few years it has been a case of "wrong place, wrong time"... That isnt unlucky... Top ten at best this year for Tai... For Gorican though, a very good meeting.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel115 Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As proved in other sports Russians are still competing, its virtue signalling and history will not be kind to speedway, whoever the decision is is irrelevant, it’s wrong and quite frankly I’m disgusted in the other riders to not speaking out about it You see what Russian soldiers are doing in Ukraine right ? and both of them are Russian Soldiers in reserves and i have read Laguta comments about the conflict too and he was supportive of Putin so you might want to stop this nonsense that they should be riding in GP. Edited May 1, 2022 by pawel115 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 7 hours ago, r8gdp said: Russia should not be in Ukraine full stop no arguments not their country Too bloody right, Russia should not be doing what they're doing, they are completely in the wrong, evil barstewards! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 They say politics and sport should not mix TOO RIGHT. No one can condone some of the Russian atrocities but to say Russia has no right in Ukraine is basically a 100% complete failure to understand history, certainly in parts of the Donbas region. Who is more culpible in war, the aggressor, the defender or the Arms supplier, or all three?. War means no one is ultimately blameless. The aggressor rightly takes the lions share of the flak but the defender can also commit atrocity and the arms supplier in many ways is as bad as the aggressor and the defender. As for those seeminly desperate to fund and perpetuate the conflict to save their own political skins elsewhere, the word "contempt" is not sufficient. Yes you Boris! Aggressive acts bring out aggressive responses (just look at the carpet fire bombing of German Cities in WW2 as an example) . The hatred between some Poles and some Russians also goes back to WW2 (and before), when in their desperation to rout the Germans who had been responsible for the deaths of 10's on millions of Russians with their barbarity, the Russians swept through Poland treating some Poles as German collaborators and not waiting to pick and choose who was friend and who was foe. There are NO winners in war, and certainly in the context of Speedway the GP series is the loser without Emil and Artem, Emil and Artem are losers for not being there and no one wins as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Superb presentation, tons of overtaking, what more can you want? Superb commentary in very difficult circumstances. Nothing to moan about here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 The overall production was very good and a step up for speedway on TV, expecting a follow the leader borefest i thought the meeting was actually good with some good racing, Kelvin did a sterling job it was obvious how affected he was by recent events. I just hope it dosent turn out to be a boring one man stroll to the title as its hard to see where a challenge to Zmarzlik is going to come from at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, keepturningleft said: Superb presentation, tons of overtaking, what more can you want? Superb commentary in very difficult circumstances. Nothing to moan about here. And for those of us watching on discovery + no adverts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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