Diamonds85 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Correct ,very strong Team then, Leicester just got lucky. As good as Adam is, I don't think him being there last night would have changed the result much... It would have just been a 20 point deficit instead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Ellis could only score 18 points but while it wouldn't have altered the result on the night it may have given the Brummies a chance in the second leg. The second leg is now a dead rubber for which only the hardiest of fans will turn up to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Col said: Ellis could only score 18 points but while it wouldn't have altered the result on the night it may have given the Brummies a chance in the second leg. The second leg is now a dead rubber for which only the hardiest of fans will turn up to. I probably would have gone to the 2nd leg... so both Leicester and Birmingham have missed my money because of last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Dog said: They could but its hardly the same as some sort of competitive racing. Speedway flirt with being 'professional' by streaming etc and yet seem happy to miss this basic thing. Poland get it right with their sparring matches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Dog said: Given that Birmingham riders had only done a few laps on press day since the end of last season, it was always going to be one-sided against a Leicester team that have been together for a couple of seasons and at home. I think one area where speedway can improve is by having a few friendly meetings if possible and maybe a couple of 5 minutes practice laps before a meeting. Be good for bike set up and for the riders to loosen up. I've never understood how riders are expected to get out of the van, get changed and race seriously without any sort of practice, especially after being off a bike for months. You wouldn't expect Moto GP riders to just turn up on race day and race nor would you expect Liverpool to do their press shots and then play Man City the day after. Based on the fact that we're told that it takes a couple of heats for the track to bed in, it makes complete sense that all the riders are offered the opportunity of practice laps pre meeting. You could even make it part of the pre match and it would likely improve the on track action. Won't happen because it would give the away team a better chance of winning and as we all know the home team must win at all costs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, enotian said: Based on the fact that we're told that it takes a couple of heats for the track to bed in, it makes complete sense that all the riders are offered the opportunity of practice laps pre meeting. You could even make it part of the pre match and it would likely improve the on track action. Won't happen because it would give the away team a better chance of winning and as we all know the home team must win at all costs. Poole let riders have a few laps round after the parade, have done for years. I'm always surprised other teams don't, but when you put the reason why, I guess it isn't that surprising! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Poole let riders have a few laps round after the parade, have done for years. I'm always surprised other teams don't, but when you put the reason why, I guess it isn't that surprising! Berwick do the same a few practice laps ,starts etc after the parade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Col said: Ellis could only score 18 points but while it wouldn't have altered the result on the night it may have given the Brummies a chance in the second leg. The second leg is now a dead rubber for which only the hardiest of fans will turn up to. 15 surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 It's not all bad news for the Brum. Morris did really well, Ellis is coming in, Pearson will improve and Auty and Nielsen are better than that normally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Col said: Ellis could only score 18 points but while it wouldn't have altered the result on the night it may have given the Brummies a chance in the second leg. The second leg is now a dead rubber for which only the hardiest of fans will turn up to. I'm sorry but even if Adam was there, Leicester would have still been far too strong for Birmingham to stand a chance in the second leg, Adam missing made little difference. Being 20 or so points down after the first leg is basically a death sentence, has a deficit like that ever been overcome? Leicester are one of, if not THE strongest team in the league and I don't see Birmingham making the playoffs, so the gulf in quality effected the result, not the fact Adam was missing, who admittedly is probably Birmingham's best rider. Edited March 27, 2022 by Diamonds85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 hours ago, The Dog said: They could but its hardly the same as some sort of competitive racing. Speedway flirt with being 'professional' by streaming etc and yet seem happy to miss this basic thing. How many competitive races have Leicester had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 16 hours ago, ScottyJ said: Well Birmingham were rubbish. Great to be back to the lions den but my god it was a no contest!! Birmingham and Newcastle will be lucky to finish the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, R87 said: Birmingham and Newcastle will be lucky to finish the season Doomed, we re all doomed. Its best not to bother getting out of bed, you only have to get back in again later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Speedway fans are a weird bunch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 7 hours ago, mikebv said: Amazingly coincidental how when a No1 is not available, it is an away match they miss... Oh, I'm sure Vissing rode last night.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Still cannot understand why the intro is so poor. Why not get riders at the start introduce them interview them with a couple of practise laps.. been going for years but unless I need my eyes testing the lighting is so poor now days. Also what is going on with the purchasing of tickets why is the bottom bar in car park no longer open to have a quick beer and purchase your tickets. Any way moan over here to a safe and successful season up the lions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, kitten2502 said: Oh, I'm sure Vissing rode last night.......... And thank goodness he did... #betterthanthebritishchampion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: I'm sorry but even if Adam was there, Leicester would have still been far too strong for Birmingham to stand a chance in the second leg, Adam missing made little difference. Being 20 or so points down after the first leg is basically a death sentence, has a deficit like that ever been overcome? Leicester are one of, if not THE strongest team in the league and I don't see Birmingham making the playoffs, so the gulf in quality effected the result, not the fact Adam was missing, who admittedly is probably Birmingham's best rider. Didn't the Diamonds do it to Sheffield after a typically rubbish Owlerton display? I recall because I didn't bother going to the 2nd leg but my dad who would pay to watch paint dry did and was smug for weeks. But it's basically two rubbish matches isn't it, two massive home wins. Don't ask the year as they all merge into one at my age. 6 hours ago, Normski said: Berwick do the same a few practice laps ,starts etc after the parade A few laps just before tapes up hardly gives riders time to make adjustments though. I'm thinking more of a structured pre match practice. Say two riders at a time for a 5 minute practice so 35 mins of practice in total before the line up presentation. If the riders want to do it. Maybe do interviews with those who do after their practice. F1 and Moto GP make 3 days out of exactly that. 2 if you consider qualifying as an event. The riders wouldn't get paid to practice so no extra cost to add an extra 35 mins of 'entertainment' for those who want to see it. If you don't just turn up for the tapes up time. Personally I'd just turn up for the start of the match but if the knock on effect is that both sets of riders are more well prepared for the real action then the match is likely to be more entertaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, enotian said: Didn't the Diamonds do it to Sheffield after a typically rubbish Owlerton display? I recall because I didn't bother going to the 2nd leg but my dad who would pay to watch paint dry did and was smug for weeks. But it's basically two rubbish matches isn't it, two massive home wins. Don't ask the year as they all merge into one at my age. A few laps just before tapes up hardly gives riders time to make adjustments though. I'm thinking more of a structured pre match practice. Say two riders at a time for a 5 minute practice so 35 mins of practice in total before the line up presentation. If the riders want to do it. Maybe do interviews with those who do after their practice. F1 and Moto GP make 3 days out of exactly that. 2 if you consider qualifying as an event. The riders wouldn't get paid to practice so no extra cost to add an extra 35 mins of 'entertainment' for those who want to see it. If you don't just turn up for the tapes up time. Personally I'd just turn up for the start of the match but if the knock on effect is that both sets of riders are more well prepared for the real action then the match is likely to be more entertaining. I do vaguely remember the Diamonds overturning a pretty big deficit against Sheffield, a few years back. But it wasn't 20+, I'd be very surprised if it was. And in Poland they send a couple riders out from each team for 5 minutes or so, to get a bit practice in and presumably relay back to the rest of the team what the track surface is like. Will never happen in uk though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, enotian said: Didn't the Diamonds do it to Sheffield after a typically rubbish Owlerton display? I recall because I didn't bother going to the 2nd leg but my dad who would pay to watch paint dry did and was smug for weeks. But it's basically two rubbish matches isn't it, two massive home wins. Don't ask the year as they all merge into one at my age. A few laps just before tapes up hardly gives riders time to make adjustments though. I'm thinking more of a structured pre match practice. Say two riders at a time for a 5 minute practice so 35 mins of practice in total before the line up presentation. If the riders want to do it. Maybe do interviews with those who do after their practice. F1 and Moto GP make 3 days out of exactly that. 2 if you consider qualifying as an event. The riders wouldn't get paid to practice so no extra cost to add an extra 35 mins of 'entertainment' for those who want to see it. If you don't just turn up for the tapes up time. Personally I'd just turn up for the start of the match but if the knock on effect is that both sets of riders are more well prepared for the real action then the match is likely to be more entertaining. Actually dont think its a bad start of an idea this just two things worry me 1. Riders practice, Tractors come out change the track completely 2. As happened at SON Day 1, Riders practiced, pushed all the dirt out creating 1 line early on which didnt make for a great meeting until that line became so wide it opened up other parts of the track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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