racers and royals Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, topsoil said: Do number 1 seed Lublin meet the Lucky Loser in the semis? Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) Edited August 21, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) So there was no incentive to finish top of the table if the number 1 seed in the semis is the team who scores the higheat points on aggregate in the quarters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, topsoil said: So there was no incentive to finish top of the table if the number 1 seed in the semis is the team who scores the higheat points on aggregate in the quarters? Exactly right apart from 2 things 1 they met team 6 in the play-off 1st round- the weakest team 2 in the event of a tie in the mini league, finishing position in the regular season finishes higher.which could mean the difference between going forward or not. Edited August 21, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 When your luck's out it's out. Gorzow's season is basically over now. Czestochowa are the team to watch out for purely because they've got a fully fit 1-7 while other teams are one injury away from becoming a 5 man team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Not necessarily but possibly- i will repeat again what i have posted more than once - 2 new play-off result mini leagues will be created with the 3 winners in one and the 3 losers in the other - these will be on match points and then race points. best loser (4) goes through to meet no 1 in the winners table and 2 v 3 in the winners table completes the semi`s.(over 2 legs) And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate Isle of wight. Just grasstrack and gimmicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, topsoil said: Isle of wight. Just grasstrack and gimmicks. Bigger crowds than they got for league speedway, totally geared towards the fans experience, 25+ races per meeting for £12 and I’m pretty sure the British upright meeting was 16 speedway bikes as was the 3 team tournament last week featuring national league riders ,you call it gimmicks I call it entertainment Edited August 21, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And the fact that you have to keep repeating it tells you how utterly stupid this play off system is, I thought the poles were beyond this stupidity that British speedway specialise in but clearly not, polish speedway and the Isle of Wight are the only things keeping me a speedway fan at the moment, even the GP has lost something for me, seems it’s just going to be the Isle of Wight at this rate I agree, this is a ridiculous convoluted way of doing the playoffs. Even the BSPA couldn't make this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Bigger crowds than they got for league speedway, totally geared towards the fans experience, 25+ races per meeting for £12 and I’m pretty sure the British upright meeting was 16 speedway bikes as was the 3 team tournament last week featuring national league riders ,you call it gimmicks I call it entertainment But apart from all that... What do the Isle Of Wight offer? League Speedway given the way it is ran has been allowed to become a farce in the UK, so fair play to the IOW for realising that and doing their own thing.. When not held back by having to follow an unfit for purpose operating model, it shows what can be done.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: But apart from all that... What do the Isle Of Wight offer? Fantastic food cooked by the promotion at a cheap price Edited August 21, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Fantastic food cooked by the promotion at a cheap price Good value food....? Entertaining Speedway...? Varied different concepts to maintain interest....? Lots of focus on the "whole day customer experience" and not just the racing, with lots of it aimed at kids..? And a reasonable price point to encourage people to either go regularly or to "give it a try" without breaking the bank, and make it more affordable for families? That will never catch on in UK Speedway will it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, mikebv said: Good value food....? Entertaining Speedway...? Varied different concepts to maintain interest....? Lots of focus on the "whole day customer experience" and not just the racing, with lots of it aimed at kids..? And a reasonable price point to encourage people to either go regularly or to "give it a try" without breaking the bank, and make it more affordable for families? That will never catch on in UK Speedway will it? In a very clean and tidy stadium , for me the thing restricting the crowds even more is the ferry crossing but as complicated as the ferry sounds it’s not difficult to leave your car in Portsmouth and go on foot getting a taxi to track on the Isle, the taxi company is located in the pits, traveling on the ferry with the riders, they have speedway bikes in front of the stand for kids to sit on during the meeting Edited August 21, 2022 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Bigger crowds than they got for league speedway, totally geared towards the fans experience, 25+ races per meeting for £12 and I’m pretty sure the British upright meeting was 16 speedway bikes as was the 3 team tournament last week featuring national league riders ,you call it gimmicks I call it entertainment Ha they had a good NL set up then took the huff. The standard of the NL has gone up in the last two years and IOW are left with grasstrack bikes, flattracks and the odd NL rider who cant get a team place. Is that really entertainment? Thats why they have to rely on gimmicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Can we please put this thread back on topic. It is meant to be the Polish Play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Silver Cheetah Snr said: Can we please put this thread back on topic. It is meant to be the Polish Play-offs. Nothing to talk about yet they don’t start till 5pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Teams confirmed in Torun Torun v Gorzow Torun 9 Przedpelski 10 Dudek 11 J Holder 12 RR(ZZ) 13 Lambert 14 Zielinski 15 Lewandowski 16 Affelt Gorzow 1 Wozniak 2 Jasinski 3 Zmarzlik 4 RR(ZZ) 5 P Hansen 6 Bartkowiak 7 Hurysz 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 I find it disrespectful to the fans for riders to announce they are leaving teams or joining another team before the season finished, I understand the polish press don’t help the situation but show some respect to the fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 not looking good for gorzow, + the way Woznick rode last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 im thinking of going over to see a couple of play of meetings , fly over anyone know how easy it is to get about and get digs ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Delayed start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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