Newcastle vs Stoke Select - Dave Tattum Memorial Cup Sun 3rd April 2022 - 4pm

[Lord Skid]

12 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said:

I've got his dad's 

Stuart would still score 6-8 in this weakened down league 

[Justgotmecpc]

24 minutes ago, Lord Skid said:

Stuart would still score 6-8 in this weakened down league 

I  reckon 7-9 easy around Newcastle 

[Gringo]

1 hour ago, Lord Skid said:

 

Anyone got Robbo's number?

Stuart or Scott.

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said:

Hopefully we can put a decent show on at Leicester next sat & show the rest of the league that we are a good team 

Not wanting to sound cheeky, but how can you show the rest of the league that you are a good team, when you're clearly a very weak team?

[Justgotmecpc]

7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Not wanting to sound cheeky, but how can you show the rest of the league that you are a good team, when you're clearly a very weak team?

That's why I said ( hopefully) as I know we are weak 

[Lord Skid]

11 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said:

I  reckon 7-9 easy around Newcastle 

I said 6-8 because he would be riding just for fun nowadays, problem would be when he becomes number 1.

[gazzac]

14 hours ago, JCookie said:

BWD got to be the worst number 1 since Joe Dolce. 

That's a bit negative, think you better shaddup your face, although if BWD doesn't improve its goodnight Vienna to any hope of a No1 slot.

[Yearbyred]

5 minutes ago, gazzac said:

That's a bit negative, think you better shaddup your face, although if BWD doesn't improve its goodnight Vienna to any hope of a No1 slot.

This means nothing to me……

[GiveusaB]

36 minutes ago, Yearbyred said:

This means nothing to me……

If BWD does improve, you'll be dancing with tears in your eyes.

[Lord Skid]

BWD has probably had one too many bad crashes, some riders are mentally strong enough to put them firmly behind them, but many lose the edge they used to have, Robbo definitely didn't let them affect his performances.

Only problem with hype is, you have to live up to it, or the knives quickly come out.

[ruffdiamond]

7 minutes ago, Lord Skid said:

BWD has probably had one too many bad crashes, some riders are mentally strong enough to put them firmly behind them, but many lose the edge they used to have, Robbo definitely didn't let them affect his performances.

Only problem with hype is, you have to live up to it, or the knives quickly come out.

Aye, doesn't seem to be having a great welcome to the North East. Having beef with other riders and now the fans is getting on his case, give him a chance,,, he's only been here a fortnight or summit on an inflated average. Look at Crump last year, come in on a 12 and left on about a 6!!! 

[KEITH M]

39 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

Look at Crump last year, come in on a 12 and left on about a 6!!! 

Aye but he had Bjarne to help pull him out the sh*t 

[NJC71]

Didn’t attend many meetings last year but went yesterday. Observations:

Shame there is no outside line on the track; racing wasn’t great.

Team obviously lacks any real top end strength. Completely appreciate that we can only spend what we have but its catch-22 and many may be reluctant to watch a team that is clearly going to struggle. 

Three riders who haven’t ridden at this level either before or not for x years feels like a gamble too many. BWD is clearly not a number 1 and in reality nowhere near it with his assessed 8+ average 2 points plus higher than anything he’s achieved at this level. That assessed average is far too high given he’s not raced for more than 12 months either. 

Starke, Wethers, Wright & Clegg are all reliable solid second strings with Clegg still on the up but none are heat leaders let alone a number 1 which one them will be before long.

Complin looked decent considering how long he’s been out and will hold his own in time. He doesn’t have the physique for a speedway rider but at this level he’ll score points before long.

Congreve is obviously very raw but did ok. In a strong team he would be fine but he may get exposed a bit in this side.

Facilities at the stadium (food and drink) are better than they ever have been and the pits looked neat. Hope the team can be competitive in time but suspect it will need some changes if possible.

 

[Diamonds85]

1 hour ago, NJC71 said:

Didn’t attend many meetings last year but went yesterday. Observations:

Shame there is no outside line on the track; racing wasn’t great.

Team obviously lacks any real top end strength. Completely appreciate that we can only spend what we have but its catch-22 and many may be reluctant to watch a team that is clearly going to struggle. 

Three riders who haven’t ridden at this level either before or not for x years feels like a gamble too many. BWD is clearly not a number 1 and in reality nowhere near it with his assessed 8+ average 2 points plus higher than anything he’s achieved at this level. That assessed average is far too high given he’s not raced for more than 12 months either. 

Starke, Wethers, Wright & Clegg are all reliable solid second strings with Clegg still on the up but none are heat leaders let alone a number 1 which one them will be before long.

Complin looked decent considering how long he’s been out and will hold his own in time. He doesn’t have the physique for a speedway rider but at this level he’ll score points before long.

Congreve is obviously very raw but did ok. In a strong team he would be fine but he may get exposed a bit in this side.

Facilities at the stadium (food and drink) are better than they ever have been and the pits looked neat. Hope the team can be competitive in time but suspect it will need some changes if possible.

 

Completely agree with most of what you said. However I will disagree on calling Matty and Paul second strings, they have been proven heatleaders for years. Also Max is basically a heat leader now and by the end of the year will probably be our number 1 

Other than that, great round up of how the meeting panned out. I believe we are not short on money, however the winter situation meant we lost a few of the big hitters we could have gone in for to other teams as there was so much uncertainty surrounding the club. Hopefully next winter will be better and we can tempt the likes of Steve back???

Edited April 4, 2022 by Diamonds85

[geoff100]

Anyone got a copy of this years rule book?was the ref correct in not allowing wright in ht 15 after starkes bike failed speaking to an ex ref today he said wright should have been allowed " unless the rule has changed this year".

[StevePark]

10 minutes ago, geoff100 said:

Anyone got a copy of this years rule book?was the ref correct in not allowing wright in ht 15 after starkes bike failed speaking to an ex ref today he said wright should have been allowed " unless the rule has changed this year".

James could have gone in ht 15 had Paul not been disqualified.  But, because Starkey had been DQ'd, a reserve had to come in.

[oggyNZ]

Was this the lowest crowd ever for the start of a new season ? It seems ironic that we seem to have more sponsors advertising at the track this season, and  that could be the reason the car park was full. The  track had dirt on but seemed to be left dry in case of rain which arrived at 7.15. This left it as an ideal gaters paradise and once in the lead just sit on the 1 line to win. Unfortunatley Diamonds  are not the best gaters. I would like other  peoples comments on the state of the 3rd bend as it seemed the bikes were hitting a hole there.

The good point was that we started on time at 4.00.

 

[geoff100]

2 hours ago, StevePark said:

James could have gone in ht 15 had Paul not been disqualified.  But, because Starkey had been DQ'd, a reserve had to come in.

Yea i get that the point am making was does it have to be a reserve after paul was disqualified for a 2 minute offence?

[geoff100]

1 hour ago, oggyNZ said:

Was this the lowest crowd ever for the start of a new season ? It seems ironic that we seem to have more sponsors advertising at the track this season, and  that could be the reason the car park was full. The  track had dirt on but seemed to be left dry in case of rain which arrived at 7.15. This left it as an ideal gaters paradise and once in the lead just sit on the 1 line to win. Unfortunatley Diamonds  are not the best gaters. I would like other  peoples comments on the state of the 3rd bend as it seemed the bikes were hitting a hole there.

The good point was that we started on time at 4.00.

 

I thought the crowd was low and yes  seemed to be a bump as riders turning for bend 3,big miss was honest john hope we see him there soon.

[Roger Martins]

2 hours ago, oggyNZ said:

Was this the lowest crowd ever for the start of a new season ? It seems ironic that we seem to have more sponsors advertising at the track this season, and  that could be the reason the car park was full. The  track had dirt on but seemed to be left dry in case of rain which arrived at 7.15. This left it as an ideal gaters paradise and once in the lead just sit on the 1 line to win. Unfortunatley Diamonds  are not the best gaters. I would like other  peoples comments on the state of the 3rd bend as it seemed the bikes were hitting a hole there.

The good point was that we started on time at 4.00.

 

It was not a shock to see the crowd was low for the first meeting when it was up against Newcastle United playing football at the same time, I know the game was in London but there is always a huge following to support them, and it was on Sky Sports,  and that could have been the reason for the crowd being as low as it was, Start of a new season and you are wanting as many new supporters to attend as well, and to return for the rest of the season. I know its hard to arrange meetings but just seems crazy to have the opening meeting to be on at the same time as the football, Hopefully next week will see a much improved attendance against Redcar.