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[False dawn]

2 hours ago, norbold said:

I had a word with the author of Speedway in London as I know him quite well and he said he thinks Historian is correct and apologises for the error, but, as Historian says, these sort of myths once ingrained keep getting repeated. I think you will also find that Speedway in London says that speedway started in West Maitland in 1923 and, as we all know now, that is a complete myth and completely untrue. He says he was very young and naive when he wrote Speedway in London…….

Whereas now, he is much older and a bit wiser, eh? 

[norbold]

7 hours ago, False dawn said:

Whereas now, he is much older and a bit wiser, eh? 

So he says, but I don't believe him....

[BOBBATH]

On 4/5/2022 at 1:27 PM, Historian said:

Sorry to go off topic, If you repeat a myth often enough it becomes fact, The Brigands name is a bit of Hoskins bull, To beef up an article  in a London newspaper he refered to them as the Brigands sounds better than "The Bridge. this is the only ref to that name I have found.

Speaking of nicknames  re football , does anybody know when Chelsea F.C. stopped being nicknamed the "Pensioners" and became "The Lions", while we are at it when did  WBA cease to be  "The Throstles" and become "The Baggies" and Palace cease to be  "the Glaziers" and become the 'Eagles". Anyone remember??? Sorry, this even more off topic.

[iris123]

15 minutes ago, BOBBATH said:

Speaking of nicknames  re football , does anybody know when Chelsea F.C. stopped being nicknamed the "Pensioners" and became "The Lions", while we are at it when did  WBA cease to be  "The Throstles" and become "The Baggies" and Palace cease to be  "the Glaziers" and become the 'Eagles". Anyone remember??? Sorry, this even more off topic.

Millwall are The Lions. Don't think Chelsea ever have been, and aren't unique in having a lion as emblem, but not nickname. Aston Villa another

But google can answer simple questions like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.

Edited April 6, 2022 by iris123

[chunky]

15 minutes ago, BOBBATH said:

Speaking of nicknames  re football , does anybody know when Chelsea F.C. stopped being nicknamed the "Pensioners" and became "The Lions", while we are at it when did  WBA cease to be  "The Throstles" and become "The Baggies" and Palace cease to be  "the Glaziers" and become the 'Eagles". Anyone remember??? Sorry, this even more off topic.

Well, I believe that "The Throstles" may still be West Brom's "official" nickname. They adopted the name when they moved to The Hawthorns in 1900. However, "The Baggies" also dates back to around the same period, and was used as an unofficial nickname. It was around the 1980's that "The Baggies" seemed to become the most used, possibly because it sounded cooler!

Palace changed their nickname thanks to Malcolm Allison when he was manager. He changed their colours, and also the club crest. Instead of showing the original Crystal Palace, he used an Eagle holding a ball (based on the Benfica crest).

[Lefty]

1 hour ago, chunky said:

........However, "The Baggies" also dates back to around the same period, and was used as an unofficial nickname. It was around the 1980's that "The Baggies" seemed to become the most used, possibly because it sounded cooler!....

As you travel from West Brom and move closer to Wolverhampton, the nickname undergoes further name change / modification. Some might be considered printable! 

[Split]

I'm a long suffering Tottenham fan and their nickname is always given as The Lilywhites but for as long as I can remember, everybody has called them The Spurs.

[BOBBATH]

6 hours ago, chunky said:

Well, I believe that "The Throstles" may still be West Brom's "official" nickname. They adopted the name when they moved to The Hawthorns in 1900. However, "The Baggies" also dates back to around the same period, and was used as an unofficial nickname. It was around the 1980's that "The Baggies" seemed to become the most used, possibly because it sounded cooler!

Palace changed their nickname thanks to Malcolm Allison when he was manager. He changed their colours, and also the club crest. Instead of showing the original Crystal Palace, he used an Eagle holding a ball (based on the Benfica crest).

Thanks Chunky,  the Chelsea stuff is on wikipaedia as you said. ditto re Palace, about WBA it's not as clear so to me they will remain "The Throstles". My last year in England (1968) they beat Everton in the Cup Final 1-0 on a Jeff Astle goal. First one I ever saw on TV in colour-holy smokes -have I been gone that long.!!!Thanks for the other interesting comments too. , sorry for the digression from  speedway!

[Ovalman]

Swindon Town were once known as Railwaymen and Moonrakers, now Robins, same as nearby Bristol City and Cheltenham. Charlton were Robins now Valiants, since mid 60s. Also known as Addicks.

Edited April 12, 2022 by auntie doris

[Midland Red]

Coventry City we’re The Bantams, same as Bradford City, until Jimmy Hill took over and created The Sky Blues.

[Ovalman]

Can remember when Brighton and Hove Albion were known as The Dolphins before Seagulls.

[steve roberts]

11 hours ago, auntie doris said:

Swindon Town were once known as Railwaymen and Moonrakers, now Robins, same as nearby Bristol City and Cheltenham. Charlton were Robins now Valiants, since mid 60s. Also known as Addicks.

...especially like the reference to the "Moonrakers!"